[opensuse-factory] Enable touchpad "tapping"
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi guys.. i am on 11.3 RC1, everything looks to work fine... i only have one problem.. how am i supposed to enable touchpad tapping? i run LXDE, and to enable tapping i am using gsynaptics. The problem is that the change work untill i reboot X.org.. after that the changes are lost... any idea? Andrea - -- - ------------------------------------------ Andrea Florio QSI International School of Brindisi Sys Admin CISCO CCNA Certified openSUSE-Education Administrator openSUSE Official Member (anubisg1) Email: andrea@opensuse.org Packman Packaging Team Email: andrea@links2linux.de Web: http://packman.links2linux.org/ Cell: +39-328-7365667 - ------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwd+QkACgkQyCZT87TFPug1ygCdHYsV1JYiwB6kXVx4IG/dtt0S XMkAoN+olTtv4q3Lk5R8h1gpM+Gf0K7O =cIP1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-06-20 13:18, Andrea Florio wrote:
Hi guys.. i am on 11.3 RC1, everything looks to work fine...
i only have one problem.. how am i supposed to enable touchpad tapping?
i run LXDE, and to enable tapping i am using gsynaptics. The problem is that the change work untill i reboot X.org.. after that the changes are lost... any idea?
I don't know in lxde, but in gnome, you have to go to the "control center", select "mouse", and there enable tapping. I would think you need to find an equivalent for lxde, there is no global setting I know of. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwd+7kACgkQU92UU+smfQUdFgCeMc2kUZG40T6JaX0vCzwpzUMt nMYAniw1ayfIUJjEI49IS+/LX2iDyLbd =NDLx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
* Andrea Florio
Hi guys.. i am on 11.3 RC1, everything looks to work fine...
i only have one problem.. how am i supposed to enable touchpad tapping?
i run LXDE, and to enable tapping i am using gsynaptics. The problem is that the change work untill i reboot X.org.. after that the changes are lost... any idea?
You could put a call to synclient(1) in your .xsession or Openbox autostart script. If you want a system-wide setting you'll need to create a xorg.conf or drop a corresponding snippet into /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d. The driver options controlling tap-to-click behavior are documented in synaptics(4). HTH. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
i only have one problem.. how am i supposed to enable touchpad tapping? As I understand it, depite that on major other OSes tapping just works. openSUSE came to the conclusion, that tapping should be off by default.
May be they want to force newbies to learn about KDE/gnome/whatever WM configuration frontends before feeling comfortable with their desktops (pardon for sarkasm). Here a quote from a comment on another touchpad problem: <cite> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=554884 Short version is, touchpad tap was disabled in X to make it consistant with Gnome defaults. KDE does not enable/disable by default instead picking up on whatever X is configured to do. So since touchpad tap is now disabled, KDE picks up on that "new" setting and no more touchpad tap. You have to install Synaptiks or kcm_touchpad to be able to enable touchpad tap and other touchpad behaviors you're used to with KDE4 in 11.2. </cite> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Stefan Quandt schreef:
i only have one problem.. how am i supposed to enable touchpad tapping?
As I understand it, depite that on major other OSes tapping just works. openSUSE came to the conclusion, that tapping should be off by default.
May be they want to force newbies to learn about KDE/gnome/whatever WM configuration frontends before feeling comfortable with their desktops (pardon for sarkasm).
Here a quote from a comment on another touchpad problem: <cite> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=554884
Short version is, touchpad tap was disabled in X to make it consistant with Gnome defaults. KDE does not enable/disable by default instead picking up on whatever X is configured to do. So since touchpad tap is now disabled, KDE picks up on that "new" setting and no more touchpad tap.
You have to install Synaptiks or kcm_touchpad to be able to enable touchpad tap and other touchpad behaviors you're used to with KDE4 in 11.2. </cite>
I think this also belongs there:
By the way, don't install both when you're testing 11.3. I've found that they fight a bit with each other - odd error messages etc. It works fine if you install kcm_touchpad, and you've got loads of options (eg turning touchpad off when you're typing which is almost a must for most people). I dont' see much difference between Synaptiks and kcm_touchpad.. minor stuff.. but nothing that stands out to make one more desirable over the other.
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On Sunday 20 June 2010 19:41:01 Stefan Quandt wrote:
i only have one problem.. how am i supposed to enable touchpad tapping?
As I understand it, depite that on major other OSes tapping just works. openSUSE came to the conclusion, that tapping should be off by default.
May be they want to force newbies to learn about KDE/gnome/whatever WM configuration frontends before feeling comfortable with their desktops (pardon for sarkasm).
Here a quote from a comment on another touchpad problem: <cite> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=554884
Short version is, touchpad tap was disabled in X to make it consistant with Gnome defaults. KDE does not enable/disable by default instead picking up on whatever X is configured to do. So since touchpad tap is now disabled, KDE picks up on that "new" setting and no more touchpad tap.
You have to install Synaptiks or kcm_touchpad to be able to enable touchpad tap and other touchpad behaviors you're used to with KDE4 in 11.2. </cite> If that would actually work, unfortunately the Qt-based frontends kcm_touchpad and synaptiks both fail to enable tapping on my laptop. A custom X.org conf does the trick. Nonetheless this is sub-optimal as you have to restart for simple configuration changes. This isn't exactly user friendly and the competition seems to do a way better job here.
BTW. What was the rationale for disabling this anyway?
Le lundi 21 juin 2010, à 17:07 +0200, Sascha Peilicke a écrit :
BTW. What was the rationale for disabling this anyway?
See my answer from earlier today: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2010-06/msg00278.html Quoting: =========== And my personal opinion (disabled by default) is based on seeing people getting confused when something clicks on the screen while they didn't press a button: it harms more the people who don't expect this behavior when it is enabled by default than the people who expect it when it is disabled by default. =========== Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 21 June 2010 17:56:19 Vincent Untz wrote:
Le lundi 21 juin 2010, à 17:07 +0200, Sascha Peilicke a écrit :
BTW. What was the rationale for disabling this anyway?
See my answer from earlier today: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2010-06/msg00278.html
Quoting: =========== And my personal opinion (disabled by default) is based on seeing people getting confused when something clicks on the screen while they didn't press a button: it harms more the people who don't expect this behavior when it is enabled by default than the people who expect it when it is disabled by default. =========== So people get confused when tapping on a touchpad creates a mouse click then? It does harm as this was the default for a long time and still is for the other distros out there. Also this creates other issues, like that <CTRL>+<Tap> to follow browser tabs don't work anymore. So this could be called a regression. There's a simple option for syndaemon that temporarily disables the touchpad while typing, isn't that actually what you want?
Sure, trying to make things simpler / more intuitive for new users is a good intend, but breaking the touchpad is not. Even less if that choice is only based on a sole decision. -- Sascha Peilicke http://saschpe.wordpress.com
Le dimanche 20 juin 2010, à 13:18 +0200, Andrea Florio a écrit :
i run LXDE, and to enable tapping i am using gsynaptics. The problem is that the change work untill i reboot X.org.. after that the changes are lost... any idea?
Doesn't gsynaptics come with an autostart program that sets the touchpad config on login? Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Il 20/06/2010 21:19, Vincent Untz ha scritto:
Le dimanche 20 juin 2010, à 13:18 +0200, Andrea Florio a écrit :
i run LXDE, and to enable tapping i am using gsynaptics. The problem is that the change work untill i reboot X.org.. after that the changes are lost... any idea?
Doesn't gsynaptics come with an autostart program that sets the touchpad config on login?
Vincent
yes, but for some reasons, looks to not work... i am looking now where gsynaptic write the settings that should be reloaded... in the mean time i found my solution editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-synaptics.conf adding: Option "TapButton1" "1" left mouse tap you can even add: Option "RBCornerButton" "3" right mouse tap in lower right corner Andrea - -- - ------------------------------------------ Andrea Florio QSI International School of Brindisi Sys Admin CISCO CCNA Certified openSUSE-Education Administrator openSUSE Official Member (anubisg1) Email: andrea@opensuse.org Packman Packaging Team Email: andrea@links2linux.de Web: http://packman.links2linux.org/ Cell: +39-328-7365667 - ------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwfVwYACgkQyCZT87TFPujaGgCbBaqmPisPI3iCc/8CKNcg5W/H VYgAoIzKCwPxTypgDSFMQGVaM/RQ6BOo =0yq1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Andrea Florio schreef:
Il 20/06/2010 21:19, Vincent Untz ha scritto:
Le dimanche 20 juin 2010, à 13:18 +0200, Andrea Florio a écrit :
i run LXDE, and to enable tapping i am using gsynaptics. The problem is that the change work untill i reboot X.org.. after that the changes are lost... any idea? Doesn't gsynaptics come with an autostart program that sets the touchpad config on login?
Vincent
yes, but for some reasons, looks to not work... i am looking now where gsynaptic write the settings that should be reloaded... in the mean time i found my solution editing
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-synaptics.conf
adding:
Option "TapButton1" "1"
left mouse tap
you can even add:
Option "RBCornerButton" "3"
right mouse tap in lower right corner
Andrea
Over here on eee-pc this does not work one bit.. ;-( The only thing that worked, and keeps working is selecting, but no matter how tapping, no response.. -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball, aka M9. OS: Linux 2.6.27.19-3.2-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64) KDE: 4.2.1 (KDE 4.2.1) "release 103" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Il 20/06/2010 21:19, Vincent Untz ha scritto:
Le dimanche 20 juin 2010, à 13:18 +0200, Andrea Florio a écrit :
i run LXDE, and to enable tapping i am using gsynaptics. The problem is that the change work untill i reboot X.org.. after that the changes are lost... any idea?
Doesn't gsynaptics come with an autostart program that sets the touchpad config on login?
Vincent
can be related to this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsynaptics/+bug/70525 Andrea - -- - ------------------------------------------ Andrea Florio QSI International School of Brindisi Sys Admin CISCO CCNA Certified openSUSE-Education Administrator openSUSE Official Member (anubisg1) Email: andrea@opensuse.org Packman Packaging Team Email: andrea@links2linux.de Web: http://packman.links2linux.org/ Cell: +39-328-7365667 - ------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwfWEMACgkQyCZT87TFPuh4qwCfXg922yrkxf/jpnW8mhQkkEBP QzgAn0gMO+bXkMNytILmAfg21aDBi1oO =lHwu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Le lundi 21 juin 2010, à 14:17 +0200, Andrea Florio a écrit :
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Il 20/06/2010 21:19, Vincent Untz ha scritto:
Le dimanche 20 juin 2010, à 13:18 +0200, Andrea Florio a écrit :
i run LXDE, and to enable tapping i am using gsynaptics. The problem is that the change work untill i reboot X.org.. after that the changes are lost... any idea?
Doesn't gsynaptics come with an autostart program that sets the touchpad config on login?
Vincent
can be related to this?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsynaptics/+bug/70525
I thought we had a patch for this. Really, just launch the autostart program in a terminal and see what it outputs :-) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Il 21/06/2010 14:16, Vincent Untz ha scritto:
Le lundi 21 juin 2010, à 14:17 +0200, Andrea Florio a écrit :
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Il 20/06/2010 21:19, Vincent Untz ha scritto:
Le dimanche 20 juin 2010, à 13:18 +0200, Andrea Florio a écrit :
i run LXDE, and to enable tapping i am using gsynaptics. The problem is that the change work untill i reboot X.org.. after that the changes are lost... any idea?
Doesn't gsynaptics come with an autostart program that sets the touchpad config on login?
Vincent
can be related to this?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsynaptics/+bug/70525
I thought we had a patch for this. Really, just launch the autostart program in a terminal and see what it outputs :-)
Vincent
gsynaptics-init and gsynaptics-init --sm-disable they both just show: **(gsynaptics-init:2942): WARNING **: Using synclient not "old setting" is loaded. Anderea - -- - ------------------------------------------ Andrea Florio QSI International School of Brindisi Sys Admin CISCO CCNA Certified openSUSE-Education Administrator openSUSE Official Member (anubisg1) Email: andrea@opensuse.org Packman Packaging Team Email: andrea@links2linux.de Web: http://packman.links2linux.org/ Cell: +39-328-7365667 - ------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwfZgoACgkQyCZT87TFPujhZQCfXyFwQyVXuhnT9lLev5nyuCyR Sg8AmwSz1DlM4c7mCaE9reyCwaozAtzP =+dE0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Le lundi 21 juin 2010, à 15:15 +0200, Andrea Florio a écrit :
gsynaptics-init
and
gsynaptics-init --sm-disable
they both just show:
**(gsynaptics-init:2942): WARNING **: Using synclient
not "old setting" is loaded.
So it looks like it's working, at least. I guess someone needs to dive into debug mode :/ Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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