On Tue, 2015-01-27 at 19:16 +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

On Tuesday 2015-01-27 18:50, Shawn W Dunn wrote:

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Some of the new Features/Bugs/Changes [of Networkmanager] include:

+ A faster, lighter-weight (though less capable) internal DHCP client has been added

I find it strange that everybody is suddenly writing their own DHCP clients. First networkd, now networkmanager.

Indeed.. but that doesn't mean we'll have to use it... -- Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, Jan 27, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

Unfortunately instead of working together with everybody else in the industry SUSE decided to implement wicked..well.. as it cannot match the manpower available (Intel, Samsung, redhat, CoreOS..etc..are all working on networkd) it will become just another thing nobody else uses. people never learn..

Come on, thats nonsense If we would go that route most people would be … offline. Its like forcing everyone to McDonalds: same old, same boring, same wrong. Olaf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 2015-01-28 10:07, Frederic Crozat wrote:

There were talks between NM and wicked people (again, before networkd was written) which didn't went anywhere, unfortunately.. wicked was started and announced way before networkd first lines of code were written..

Good for wicked, but from the point of view of the openSUSE distribution, switching to wicked has been somewhat of a redundant exercise, especially because it was clear at openSUSE 13.2 release time that systemd would grow a network configuration thing. In other words, wicked, to me, is another short-lived mayfly like zmd. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, 2015-01-27 at 19:20 +0100, Yamaban wrote:

Now: Summary: Network Link Manager and User Applications Should: Summary: Network Link Manager and User Applications for Desktops

Sounds inaccurate... especially as our default installer will chose to install wicked on a traditional desktop system (arguably the right thing). YaST choses NM only as default on Notebooks Cheers, -- Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

В Tue, 27 Jan 2015 19:51:52 +0100 (CET) Yamaban пишет:

On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 19:29, Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger wrote:

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On Tue, 2015-01-27 at 19:20 +0100, Yamaban wrote:

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Now: Summary: Network Link Manager and User Applications Should: Summary: Network Link Manager and User Applications for Desktops

Sounds inaccurate... especially as our default installer will chose to install wicked on a traditional desktop system (arguably the right thing).

YaST choses NM only as default on Notebooks

Yeah, that may be, bust it still sounds better than: "... do not use for servers, unless you like frustration." or: "... for simple network access only, no routing/bridge"

NM supports bridge since 0.9.8. Not sure what you mean about "routing" here, but NM had custom routing entries for quite some time. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org