[opensuse-factory] the position of Tumbleweed
Followed with interest the discussion about the development of factory, but wondered if Tumbleweed should not have a prominent place between current and factory. I choose to use Tumbleweed because it would give me a platform which was closely following factory and would even automatically upgrade my system to in the actual case 13.2. For the moment I have the feeling that we as group are hanging at the end of the development. For example, in Tumbleweed I am still working with KDE 4.12.4 and practically everybody else works with 4.13. Would be nice to have a general discussion about the place of Tumbleweed and its future. -- Linux User 183145 using KDE4 and LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 13.1 (i586) Kernel: 3.15.0-33.g9194b64-default KDE Development Platform: 4.12.4 10:28am up 13:20, 3 users, load average: 3.51, 2.73, 1.98 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 18/06/14 13:41, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Followed with interest the discussion about the development of factory, but wondered if Tumbleweed should not have a prominent place between current and factory.
I choose to use Tumbleweed because it would give me a platform which was closely following factory and would even automatically upgrade my system to in the actual case 13.2.
For the moment I have the feeling that we as group are hanging at the end of the development. For example, in Tumbleweed I am still working with KDE 4.12.4 and practically everybody else works with 4.13.
Would be nice to have a general discussion about the place of Tumbleweed and its future.
I made my comment sometime ago about TW, namely that Greg's time and talents could be better utilised (if he so wished of course). I didn't, and still don't, pour cold water on something which he undertook to do but he does have a job and does TW in his spare time (as I understand it). Now, looking at the description of TW- "The Tumbleweed project provides a rolling updates version of openSUSE containing the latest stable versions of all software instead of relying on rigid periodic release cycles. The project does this for users that want the newest, but stable software. "The difference to Factory is that Factory is bleeding edge, often experimental, not yet stabilized software that needs more work to become useful. Tumbleweed contains the latest stable applications and is ready for daily use. "This idea has been discussed in mailing lists for a long time and was conceived into action by Greg Kroah-Hartman." http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed is no longer applicable with Factory having changed (or will change) its purpose. I am not a user of TW (I installed it once but saw nothing of benefit for me which the normal updates/upgrades to KDE, the kernel, whatever, cannot provide for my system) so no doubt those who use TW will find a reason, some application, eg, which is not available in Factory, say - for it to continue as a "spin off" from oS. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.13.2 & kernel 3.15.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 03:57:41PM +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 18/06/14 13:41, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Followed with interest the discussion about the development of factory, but wondered if Tumbleweed should not have a prominent place between current and factory.
I choose to use Tumbleweed because it would give me a platform which was closely following factory and would even automatically upgrade my system to in the actual case 13.2.
For the moment I have the feeling that we as group are hanging at the end of the development. For example, in Tumbleweed I am still working with KDE 4.12.4 and practically everybody else works with 4.13.
Would be nice to have a general discussion about the place of Tumbleweed and its future.
I made my comment sometime ago about TW, namely that Greg's time and talents could be better utilised (if he so wished of course). I didn't, and still don't, pour cold water on something which he undertook to do but he does have a job and does TW in his spare time (as I understand it).
Now, looking at the description of TW-
"The Tumbleweed project provides a rolling updates version of openSUSE containing the latest stable versions of all software instead of relying on rigid periodic release cycles. The project does this for users that want the newest, but stable software.
"The difference to Factory is that Factory is bleeding edge, often experimental, not yet stabilized software that needs more work to become useful. Tumbleweed contains the latest stable applications and is ready for daily use.
"This idea has been discussed in mailing lists for a long time and was conceived into action by Greg Kroah-Hartman."
http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed
is no longer applicable with Factory having changed (or will change) its purpose.
I agree, the way Factory is shaping up, Tumbleweed should not be needed anymore. So whenever people feel the development model for Factory is ready for everyone to switch to it, I'll be glad to delete Tumbleweed. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 18 June 2014 17:56:51 Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 03:57:41PM +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 18/06/14 13:41, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Followed with interest the discussion about the development of factory, but wondered if Tumbleweed should not have a prominent place between current and factory.
I choose to use Tumbleweed because it would give me a platform which was closely following factory and would even automatically upgrade my system to in the actual case 13.2.
For the moment I have the feeling that we as group are hanging at the end of the development. For example, in Tumbleweed I am still working with KDE 4.12.4 and practically everybody else works with 4.13.
Would be nice to have a general discussion about the place of Tumbleweed and its future.
I made my comment sometime ago about TW, namely that Greg's time and talents could be better utilised (if he so wished of course). I didn't, and still don't, pour cold water on something which he undertook to do but he does have a job and does TW in his spare time (as I understand it).
Now, looking at the description of TW-
"The Tumbleweed project provides a rolling updates version of openSUSE containing the latest stable versions of all software instead of relying on rigid periodic release cycles. The project does this for users that want the newest, but stable software.
"The difference to Factory is that Factory is bleeding edge, often experimental, not yet stabilized software that needs more work to become useful. Tumbleweed contains the latest stable applications and is ready for daily use.
"This idea has been discussed in mailing lists for a long time and was conceived into action by Greg Kroah-Hartman."
http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed
is no longer applicable with Factory having changed (or will change) its purpose.
I agree, the way Factory is shaping up, Tumbleweed should not be needed anymore. So whenever people feel the development model for Factory is ready for everyone to switch to it, I'll be glad to delete Tumbleweed.
thanks,
Dear Greg and others. Anyway, many thanks for your latest work on Tumbleweed. Much appreciated that we in Tumbleweed have changed into Baloo :). -- Linux User 183145 using KDE4 and LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 13.1 (i586) Kernel: 3.15.1-34.gee8dd2b-default KDE Development Platform: 4.13.2 11:42am up 0:07, 3 users, load average: 7.96, 8.80, 4.27 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/06/14 10:56, Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 03:57:41PM +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 18/06/14 13:41, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Followed with interest the discussion about the development of factory, but wondered if Tumbleweed should not have a prominent place between current and factory.
I choose to use Tumbleweed because it would give me a platform which was closely following factory and would even automatically upgrade my system to in the actual case 13.2.
For the moment I have the feeling that we as group are hanging at the end of the development. For example, in Tumbleweed I am still working with KDE 4.12.4 and practically everybody else works with 4.13.
Would be nice to have a general discussion about the place of Tumbleweed and its future. I made my comment sometime ago about TW, namely that Greg's time and talents could be better utilised (if he so wished of course). I didn't, and still don't, pour cold water on something which he undertook to do but he does have a job and does TW in his spare time (as I understand it).
Now, looking at the description of TW-
"The Tumbleweed project provides a rolling updates version of openSUSE containing the latest stable versions of all software instead of relying on rigid periodic release cycles. The project does this for users that want the newest, but stable software.
"The difference to Factory is that Factory is bleeding edge, often experimental, not yet stabilized software that needs more work to become useful. Tumbleweed contains the latest stable applications and is ready for daily use.
"This idea has been discussed in mailing lists for a long time and was conceived into action by Greg Kroah-Hartman."
http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed
is no longer applicable with Factory having changed (or will change) its purpose. I agree, the way Factory is shaping up, Tumbleweed should not be needed anymore. So whenever people feel the development model for Factory is ready for everyone to switch to it, I'll be glad to delete Tumbleweed.
thanks,
greg k-h
Thanks, Greg. Now, why am I getting these vibes that we may see a new Linux distro coming on the scene in the not too distant future? :-) BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.13.2 & kernel 3.15.1-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 12:18:14AM +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 19/06/14 10:56, Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 03:57:41PM +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 18/06/14 13:41, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Followed with interest the discussion about the development of factory, but wondered if Tumbleweed should not have a prominent place between current and factory.
I choose to use Tumbleweed because it would give me a platform which was closely following factory and would even automatically upgrade my system to in the actual case 13.2.
For the moment I have the feeling that we as group are hanging at the end of the development. For example, in Tumbleweed I am still working with KDE 4.12.4 and practically everybody else works with 4.13.
Would be nice to have a general discussion about the place of Tumbleweed and its future. I made my comment sometime ago about TW, namely that Greg's time and talents could be better utilised (if he so wished of course). I didn't, and still don't, pour cold water on something which he undertook to do but he does have a job and does TW in his spare time (as I understand it).
Now, looking at the description of TW-
"The Tumbleweed project provides a rolling updates version of openSUSE containing the latest stable versions of all software instead of relying on rigid periodic release cycles. The project does this for users that want the newest, but stable software.
"The difference to Factory is that Factory is bleeding edge, often experimental, not yet stabilized software that needs more work to become useful. Tumbleweed contains the latest stable applications and is ready for daily use.
"This idea has been discussed in mailing lists for a long time and was conceived into action by Greg Kroah-Hartman."
http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed
is no longer applicable with Factory having changed (or will change) its purpose. I agree, the way Factory is shaping up, Tumbleweed should not be needed anymore. So whenever people feel the development model for Factory is ready for everyone to switch to it, I'll be glad to delete Tumbleweed.
thanks,
greg k-h
Thanks, Greg.
Now, why am I getting these vibes that we may see a new Linux distro coming on the scene in the not too distant future? :-)
What do you mean by this? I'm sure not going to do another distro (I'm on my 6th one I've helped develop at the moment...) my needs are currently being met with the existing distros out there, including Tumbleweed. And if Factory is going to be a usable platform, then there will not be any need for Tumbleweed at all, so it will go away. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:41:42AM +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Followed with interest the discussion about the development of factory, but wondered if Tumbleweed should not have a prominent place between current and factory.
Doesn't it already have that? If not, what more can be done?
I choose to use Tumbleweed because it would give me a platform which was closely following factory and would even automatically upgrade my system to in the actual case 13.2.
For the moment I have the feeling that we as group are hanging at the end of the development. For example, in Tumbleweed I am still working with KDE 4.12.4 and practically everybody else works with 4.13.
Who is "everybody else"? And as for KDE 4.13, as I don't use KDE, the spare cycles I have to add it to Tumbleweed are _very_ low, so it might be a while before I can get to it (i.e. I'm on the road again starting Friday for 2 weeks...) Other than KDE, everything else seems pretty up to date in Tumbleweed, right? Anything else you want in there that it is missing?
Would be nice to have a general discussion about the place of Tumbleweed and its future.
Sure, what do you want its future to be that it currently is not? thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 17 June 2014 23:00:14 you wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:41:42AM +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Followed with interest the discussion about the development of factory, but wondered if Tumbleweed should not have a prominent place between current and factory.
Doesn't it already have that? If not, what more can be done?
I choose to use Tumbleweed because it would give me a platform which was closely following factory and would even automatically upgrade my system to in the actual case 13.2.
For the moment I have the feeling that we as group are hanging at the end of the development. For example, in Tumbleweed I am still working with KDE 4.12.4 and practically everybody else works with 4.13.
Who is "everybody else"?
Everybody who is using KDE current as I understand it.
And as for KDE 4.13, as I don't use KDE, the spare cycles I have to add it to Tumbleweed are _very_ low, so it might be a while before I can get to it (i.e. I'm on the road again starting Friday for 2 weeks...)
Other than KDE, everything else seems pretty up to date in Tumbleweed, right? Anything else you want in there that it is missing?
Looks up to date :) Cannot compare the Tumbleweed situation with the current 13.1 though.
Would be nice to have a general discussion about the place of Tumbleweed and its future.
Sure, what do you want its future to be that it currently is not?
Really did not know that it is only KDE where Tumbleweed is missing its goal of providing the latest stable applications. Sorry. - Linux User 183145 using KDE4 and LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 13.1 (i586) Kernel: 3.15.0-33.g9194b64-default KDE Development Platform: 4.12.4 13:06pm up 1:24, 3 users, load average: 0.87, 0.77, 1.45 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/18/2014 08:00 AM, Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:41:42AM +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
I choose to use Tumbleweed because it would give me a platform which was closely following factory and would even automatically upgrade my system to in the actual case 13.2.
For the moment I have the feeling that we as group are hanging at the end of the development. For example, in Tumbleweed I am still working with KDE 4.12.4 and practically everybody else works with 4.13.
Who is "everybody else"?
And as for KDE 4.13, as I don't use KDE, the spare cycles I have to add it to Tumbleweed are _very_ low, so it might be a while before I can get to it (i.e. I'm on the road again starting Friday for 2 weeks...)
What kind of help would you need here? Given, you switched the packages from KDE:Release:4.12 to KDE:Current in kde-4.12, I thought you will just keep updating the links continuously using check_packages. Should I build my KDE 4.13 on the top of TW and let you know how it goes? thanks, -- js suse labs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 03:45:25PM +0200, Jiri Slaby wrote:
On 06/18/2014 08:00 AM, Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:41:42AM +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
I choose to use Tumbleweed because it would give me a platform which was closely following factory and would even automatically upgrade my system to in the actual case 13.2.
For the moment I have the feeling that we as group are hanging at the end of the development. For example, in Tumbleweed I am still working with KDE 4.12.4 and practically everybody else works with 4.13.
Who is "everybody else"?
And as for KDE 4.13, as I don't use KDE, the spare cycles I have to add it to Tumbleweed are _very_ low, so it might be a while before I can get to it (i.e. I'm on the road again starting Friday for 2 weeks...)
What kind of help would you need here? Given, you switched the packages from KDE:Release:4.12 to KDE:Current in kde-4.12, I thought you will just keep updating the links continuously using check_packages.
I was, or I tried to, but with the update to 4.13, something broke, so I didn't push it. I really don't remember.
Should I build my KDE 4.13 on the top of TW and let you know how it goes?
Yes, please try it out, odds are the kde-4.12 file in the tumbleweed git tree will need to be tweaked with some changes. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/18/2014 09:02 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 03:45:25PM +0200, Jiri Slaby wrote:
On 06/18/2014 08:00 AM, Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:41:42AM +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
I choose to use Tumbleweed because it would give me a platform which was closely following factory and would even automatically upgrade my system to in the actual case 13.2.
For the moment I have the feeling that we as group are hanging at the end of the development. For example, in Tumbleweed I am still working with KDE 4.12.4 and practically everybody else works with 4.13.
Who is "everybody else"?
And as for KDE 4.13, as I don't use KDE, the spare cycles I have to add it to Tumbleweed are _very_ low, so it might be a while before I can get to it (i.e. I'm on the road again starting Friday for 2 weeks...)
What kind of help would you need here? Given, you switched the packages from KDE:Release:4.12 to KDE:Current in kde-4.12, I thought you will just keep updating the links continuously using check_packages.
I was, or I tried to, but with the update to 4.13, something broke, so I didn't push it. I really don't remember.
Should I build my KDE 4.13 on the top of TW and let you know how it goes?
Yes, please try it out, odds are the kde-4.12 file in the tumbleweed git tree will need to be tweaked with some changes.
thanks,
greg k-h
Personally. Using Current should be sufficient. There's no need to build a version for TW. -- Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/19/2014 06:04 PM, Roman Bysh wrote:
Personally. Using Current should be sufficient. There's no need to build a version for TW.
Personally, do whatever you want ;). -- js suse labs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Greg KH writes:
And as for KDE 4.13, as I don't use KDE, the spare cycles I have to add it to Tumbleweed are _very_ low, so it might be a while before I can get to it (i.e. I'm on the road again starting Friday for 2 weeks...)
So let me ask again why KDE must be _inside_ Tumbleweed? If I understand correctly, it could just build from KDE:Current _for_ Tumbleweed and that would result in the same install once the repo setup has been done. And if it is important that Tumbleweed is added by just one single entry in the configuration, then perhaps a service file (RIS) that bundles all the necessary repos could be provided (it is likely that GNOME and LibreOffice would also benefit from such a setup). Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf Q+, Q and microQ: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed 18 Jun 2014 02:20:27 PM EDT, Achim Gratz wrote:
Greg KH writes:
And as for KDE 4.13, as I don't use KDE, the spare cycles I have to add it to Tumbleweed are _very_ low, so it might be a while before I can get to it (i.e. I'm on the road again starting Friday for 2 weeks...)
So let me ask again why KDE must be _inside_ Tumbleweed?
If I understand correctly, it could just build from KDE:Current _for_ Tumbleweed and that would result in the same install once the repo setup has been done. And if it is important that Tumbleweed is added by just one single entry in the configuration, then perhaps a service file (RIS) that bundles all the necessary repos could be provided (it is likely that GNOME and LibreOffice would also benefit from such a setup).
Regards, Achim.
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On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 08:20:27PM +0200, Achim Gratz wrote:
Greg KH writes:
And as for KDE 4.13, as I don't use KDE, the spare cycles I have to add it to Tumbleweed are _very_ low, so it might be a while before I can get to it (i.e. I'm on the road again starting Friday for 2 weeks...)
So let me ask again why KDE must be _inside_ Tumbleweed?
If I understand correctly, it could just build from KDE:Current _for_ Tumbleweed and that would result in the same install once the repo setup has been done. And if it is important that Tumbleweed is added by just one single entry in the configuration, then perhaps a service file (RIS) that bundles all the necessary repos could be provided (it is likely that GNOME and LibreOffice would also benefit from such a setup).
I don't understand exactly what you mean by a "service file"? And how would you have the LibreOffice repo build against the proper GNOME repo to get the right dependancies and libraries pulled into it? That's the main reason everything is just in one repo at the moment. greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Greg KH writes:
I don't understand exactly what you mean by a "service file"?
A RIS file is a way to let zypper know a bundle of repositories to use, and you can even change those repositories later on in the service file and it will change the repo setup accordingly. So for openSUSE for example, instead of this whole linking of *-Current repositories to their xy.z counterparts there could simply be a service file that gets changed when the new version repos are ready to be switched.
And how would you have the LibreOffice repo build against the proper GNOME repo to get the right dependancies and libraries pulled into it?
I don't know how OBS handles that exactly. But it must be working somehow or a lot of auxiliary repos wouldn't exist.
That's the main reason everything is just in one repo at the moment.
Thanks for the clarification. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptation for Waldorf microQ V2.22R2: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:00:14PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:41:42AM +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Followed with interest the discussion about the development of factory, but wondered if Tumbleweed should not have a prominent place between current and factory.
Doesn't it already have that? If not, what more can be done?
I choose to use Tumbleweed because it would give me a platform which was closely following factory and would even automatically upgrade my system to in the actual case 13.2.
For the moment I have the feeling that we as group are hanging at the end of the development. For example, in Tumbleweed I am still working with KDE 4.12.4 and practically everybody else works with 4.13.
Who is "everybody else"?
And as for KDE 4.13, as I don't use KDE, the spare cycles I have to add it to Tumbleweed are _very_ low, so it might be a while before I can get to it (i.e. I'm on the road again starting Friday for 2 weeks...)
Other than KDE, everything else seems pretty up to date in Tumbleweed, right? Anything else you want in there that it is missing?
And now KDE is updated in Tumbleweed, so you should be all set. greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Greg KH writes:
And now KDE is updated in Tumbleweed, so you should be all set.
That and also Git2.0. Thank you! Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ DIY Stuff: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/DIY.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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