2016-08-08 10:14 GMT+02:00 Jiri Slaby :

On 08/05/2016, 08:44 PM, André Verwijs wrote:

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Tumbleweed snapshot 20160730 NVIDIA drivers gone again..! THANK YOU!!!

You are whining on the wrong place. Complain to nvidia, that their driver is crap.

Unfortunately, this is just one half of the truth and I can't leave this uncommented - Nouveau is currently crap, too. There are several open issues a #fdo concerning serious errors, mainly hangups after a while, on different hardware (included my one, HP ZBook 15). Some of them are stuck months or even years. I don't care so much about OpenGL 4 or similar features. If nouveau will be at least as stable as the proprietary nvidia driver I'll be glad to get rid of nvidia again. No developer does even comment the issues, whether it is worth to retry in the new kernel or whether there is a workaround. I rechecked nouveau in each new major kernel version without success, it works a few minutes but the system just hangs up after a while. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On lundi, 8 août 2016 10.32:18 h CEST ianseeks wrote:

On Monday, 8 August 2016 10:38:32 BST René Krell wrote:

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2016-08-08 10:14 GMT+02:00 Jiri Slaby :

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On 08/05/2016, 08:44 PM, André Verwijs wrote:

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Tumbleweed snapshot 20160730 NVIDIA drivers gone again..! THANK YOU!!!

You are whining on the wrong place. Complain to nvidia, that their driver is crap.

Unfortunately, this is just one half of the truth and I can't leave this uncommented - Nouveau is currently crap, too. There are several open issues a #fdo concerning serious errors, mainly hangups after a while, on different hardware (included my one, HP ZBook 15). Some of them are stuck months or even years. I don't care so much about OpenGL 4 or similar features. If nouveau will be at least as stable as the proprietary nvidia driver I'll be glad to get rid of nvidia again. No developer does even comment the issues, whether it is worth to retry in the new kernel or whether there is a workaround. I rechecked nouveau in each new major kernel version without success, it works a few minutes but the system just hangs up after a while.

I have no problems with nouveau, it does the job i need done quite happily

All hardware type are not equal so this discussion is steril without a precise gpu identifier. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch Bareos Partner, openSUSE Member, fsfe fellowship GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

2016-08-08 11:37 GMT+02:00 Bruno Friedmann :

On lundi, 8 août 2016 10.32:18 h CEST ianseeks wrote:

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On Monday, 8 August 2016 10:38:32 BST René Krell wrote:

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2016-08-08 10:14 GMT+02:00 Jiri Slaby :

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On 08/05/2016, 08:44 PM, André Verwijs wrote:

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Tumbleweed snapshot 20160730 NVIDIA drivers gone again..! THANK YOU!!!

... I have no problems with nouveau, it does the job i need done quite happily

All hardware type are not equal so this discussion is steril without a precise gpu identifier.

Correct. Personally, I could discuss in detail and send links to issues, but this is far beyond this issue. If someone is interested I can send it personally. I reported my issues at the proper place with all logs (#fdo). All I needed to say is nouveau should get rock-solid and stable in the first place instead of just receiving features or restructuring the code (which is valid for each driver from my point of view). This means also not to break code for existing devices in favour of upcoming ones. Then we would be back in a state that just gamers would need proprietary graphics drivers, which is my desire. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org