[opensuse-factory] Tumbleweed snapshot 20160730,NVIDIA drivers gone again..! THANK YOU!!!
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Andre, On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 9:44 PM, André Verwijs <dutchgigalo@gmail.com> wrote:
Tumbleweed snapshot 20160730 NVIDIA drivers gone again..! THANK YOU!!!
Not sure what you mean by thank you. If you're being sarcastic, let me assure you that you're helping noone, yourself included. You're running Tumbleweed, you should be able to stomach NVidia not working on a Kernel upgrade. What's more, there's extensive documentation at https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers and an email report that NVidia blobs are broken on the new snapshot. https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2016-08/msg00068.html There are ways of running the NVidia driver on Kernel 4.7 - you just need to use them :-) . Cheers, Robert
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On 05.08.2016 20:44, André Verwijs wrote:
Tumbleweed snapshot 20160730 NVIDIA drivers gone again..! THANK YOU!!!
Check the logs before you update! If there is a new major kernel version introduced (4.7 here), you can predict Nvidia driver will fail to compile aginst it. Btw. its Nvidias fault to use internal interfaces which change from release to release! Greetings, Tobias -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/05/2016, 08:44 PM, André Verwijs wrote:
Tumbleweed snapshot 20160730 NVIDIA drivers gone again..! THANK YOU!!!
You are whining on the wrong place. Complain to nvidia, that their driver is crap. regards, -- js suse labs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
2016-08-08 10:14 GMT+02:00 Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>:
On 08/05/2016, 08:44 PM, André Verwijs wrote:
Tumbleweed snapshot 20160730 NVIDIA drivers gone again..! THANK YOU!!!
You are whining on the wrong place. Complain to nvidia, that their driver is crap.
Unfortunately, this is just one half of the truth and I can't leave this uncommented - Nouveau is currently crap, too. There are several open issues a #fdo concerning serious errors, mainly hangups after a while, on different hardware (included my one, HP ZBook 15). Some of them are stuck months or even years. I don't care so much about OpenGL 4 or similar features. If nouveau will be at least as stable as the proprietary nvidia driver I'll be glad to get rid of nvidia again. No developer does even comment the issues, whether it is worth to retry in the new kernel or whether there is a workaround. I rechecked nouveau in each new major kernel version without success, it works a few minutes but the system just hangs up after a while. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday, 8 August 2016 10:38:32 BST René Krell wrote:
2016-08-08 10:14 GMT+02:00 Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>:
On 08/05/2016, 08:44 PM, André Verwijs wrote:
Tumbleweed snapshot 20160730 NVIDIA drivers gone again..! THANK YOU!!!
You are whining on the wrong place. Complain to nvidia, that their driver is crap.
Unfortunately, this is just one half of the truth and I can't leave this uncommented - Nouveau is currently crap, too. There are several open issues a #fdo concerning serious errors, mainly hangups after a while, on different hardware (included my one, HP ZBook 15). Some of them are stuck months or even years. I don't care so much about OpenGL 4 or similar features. If nouveau will be at least as stable as the proprietary nvidia driver I'll be glad to get rid of nvidia again. No developer does even comment the issues, whether it is worth to retry in the new kernel or whether there is a workaround. I rechecked nouveau in each new major kernel version without success, it works a few minutes but the system just hangs up after a while.
I have no problems with nouveau, it does the job i need done quite happily -- Qt: 5.6.1 KDE Frameworks: 5.24.0 kf5-config: 1.0 KDE Plasma: 5.7.3 Kernel: 4.7.0-1-default "openSUSE Tumbleweed (20160805) (x86_64)" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On lundi, 8 août 2016 10.32:18 h CEST ianseeks wrote:
On Monday, 8 August 2016 10:38:32 BST René Krell wrote:
2016-08-08 10:14 GMT+02:00 Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>:
On 08/05/2016, 08:44 PM, André Verwijs wrote:
Tumbleweed snapshot 20160730 NVIDIA drivers gone again..! THANK YOU!!!
You are whining on the wrong place. Complain to nvidia, that their driver is crap.
Unfortunately, this is just one half of the truth and I can't leave this uncommented - Nouveau is currently crap, too. There are several open issues a #fdo concerning serious errors, mainly hangups after a while, on different hardware (included my one, HP ZBook 15). Some of them are stuck months or even years. I don't care so much about OpenGL 4 or similar features. If nouveau will be at least as stable as the proprietary nvidia driver I'll be glad to get rid of nvidia again. No developer does even comment the issues, whether it is worth to retry in the new kernel or whether there is a workaround. I rechecked nouveau in each new major kernel version without success, it works a few minutes but the system just hangs up after a while.
I have no problems with nouveau, it does the job i need done quite happily
All hardware type are not equal so this discussion is steril without a precise gpu identifier. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch Bareos Partner, openSUSE Member, fsfe fellowship GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On lundi, 8 août 2016 10.32:18 h CEST ianseeks wrote:
On Monday, 8 August 2016 10:38:32 BST René Krell wrote:
2016-08-08 10:14 GMT+02:00 Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>:
On 08/05/2016, 08:44 PM, André Verwijs wrote:
Tumbleweed snapshot 20160730 NVIDIA drivers gone again..! THANK YOU!!!
You are whining on the wrong place. Complain to nvidia, that their driver is crap.
Unfortunately, this is just one half of the truth and I can't leave this uncommented - Nouveau is currently crap, too. There are several open issues a #fdo concerning serious errors, mainly hangups after a while, on different hardware (included my one, HP ZBook 15). Some of them are stuck months or even years. I don't care so much about OpenGL 4 or similar features. If nouveau will be at least as stable as the proprietary nvidia driver I'll be glad to get rid of nvidia again. No developer does even comment the issues, whether it is worth to retry in the new kernel or whether there is a workaround. I rechecked nouveau in each new major kernel version without success, it works a few minutes but the system just hangs up after a while.
I have no problems with nouveau, it does the job i need done quite happily
All hardware type are not equal so this discussion is steril without a precise gpu identifier.
I would like to use Nvidia Quadro NVS 440 (quad output), but with that plasmashell keeps abending. Instead I use an Nvidia FX1700 (dual output), has been working very well. -- Posted with knode 4.14 from openSUSE Leap42.1 office34: Cyrix 486DX2/66MHz, 4096Mb RAM, #9 GXE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
2016-08-08 11:37 GMT+02:00 Bruno Friedmann <bruno@ioda-net.ch>:
On lundi, 8 août 2016 10.32:18 h CEST ianseeks wrote:
On Monday, 8 August 2016 10:38:32 BST René Krell wrote:
2016-08-08 10:14 GMT+02:00 Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>:
On 08/05/2016, 08:44 PM, André Verwijs wrote:
Tumbleweed snapshot 20160730 NVIDIA drivers gone again..! THANK YOU!!!
... I have no problems with nouveau, it does the job i need done quite happily
All hardware type are not equal so this discussion is steril without a precise gpu identifier.
Correct. Personally, I could discuss in detail and send links to issues, but this is far beyond this issue. If someone is interested I can send it personally. I reported my issues at the proper place with all logs (#fdo). All I needed to say is nouveau should get rock-solid and stable in the first place instead of just receiving features or restructuring the code (which is valid for each driver from my point of view). This means also not to break code for existing devices in favour of upcoming ones. Then we would be back in a state that just gamers would need proprietary graphics drivers, which is my desire. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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