On 04/09/13 15:13, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

On Wednesday 2013-09-04 15:37, Basil Chupin wrote:

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The (latest, released last week) nVidia driver 319.49 will not compile with the just-released kernel 3-11-0.

I was under the impression that this problem was already known about for quite some time and already fixed.

Is there a patch, please, to overcome this hassle? Should you not be asking nvidia instead? (They really ought to do better than that.) I completely agree, NVidia are becoming a pain. They know about the problem.

I use the patched 325.08 from 3.11.0-rc to 3.11.0 final and why they subsequently released an incompatible 325.15 only they know. I have gone back to using nouveau on one openSUSE and 2 Kubuntu boxes while on 2 other openSUSE boxes I stay with 325.08. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/09/13 00:13, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

On Wednesday 2013-09-04 15:37, Basil Chupin wrote:

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The (latest, released last week) nVidia driver 319.49 will not compile with the just-released kernel 3-11-0.

I was under the impression that this problem was already known about for quite some time and already fixed.

Is there a patch, please, to overcome this hassle? Should you not be asking nvidia instead? (They really ought to do better than that.)

Not as far as I am concerned. The 319.49 driver was released 2 weeks ago and it had the change in it which made it compilable under the 3.10.x kernel -- prior to this the driver had to be patched before it would compile. So, nvidia worked the new driver and released it and I had NO trouble with compiling it under 3.10.11 "as is", ie without a patch. But then 4.11 was made available..... and the goal posts were moved several metres..... once again. I am surprised that nVidia has the patience to put up with the constant moving of the goal posts - even while the game is in progress. I know of one developer who gave up with keeping his application up-to-date because of the constant changes for which he had to make adjustments which would satisfy the various distributions. The app. k9copy hasn't been touched for 3 years now and if you want to make a backup copy of your favourite DVD, for example, you now need to go MS. Sad really. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.11.1 & kernel 3.11.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

El 05/09/13 07:19, Basil Chupin escribió:

I am surprised that nVidia has the patience to put up with the constant moving of the goal posts - even while the game is in progress.

Well. if NVIDIA wants to play this game, they have to be "patient" (as far as I am concerned they are "stupid" not "patient") they know about this, in fact it is clearly documented: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/stable_api_nonsense.txt

I know of one developer who gave up with keeping his application up-to-date because of the constant changes for which he had to make adjustments which would satisfy the various distributions. The app. k9copy hasn't been touched for 3 years now and if you want to make a backup copy of your favourite DVD, for example, you now need to go MS. Sad really.

What you talk about here, on the other hand, has nothing to do with kernel drivers or the kernel to userspace interface .. at all. k9copy is subject to the KDE/QT API/ABI rules, whatever they are. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/09/13 20:04, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

On Thursday 2013-09-05 20:05, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

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El 05/09/13 07:19, Basil Chupin escribió:

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I am surprised that nVidia has the patience to put up with the constant moving of the goal posts - even while the game is in progress. Well. if NVIDIA wants to play this game, they have to be "patient" (as far as I am concerned they are "stupid" not "patient") they know about this, in fact it is clearly documented. Yop. VMware gets it right (at least did when I last cared), VirtualBox gets it right (as far as I care about newest kernels).

Just AMD and NVIDIA do not want to. Or perhaps they do and you are to look in the Beta Drivers section instead. When I last used VMware, nearly 2 decades ago perhaps, they always only dealt with final kernel releases, a similar policy to NVidia, VirtualBox is hardly ever lagging. Regards Sid.

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On 05/09/13 23:09, Larry Finger wrote:

On 09/05/2013 04:13 PM, Sid Boyce wrote:

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On 05/09/13 20:04, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

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On Thursday 2013-09-05 20:05, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

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El 05/09/13 07:19, Basil Chupin escribió:

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I am surprised that nVidia has the patience to put up with the constant moving of the goal posts - even while the game is in progress. Well. if NVIDIA wants to play this game, they have to be "patient" (as far as I am concerned they are "stupid" not "patient") they know about this, in fact it is clearly documented. Yop. VMware gets it right (at least did when I last cared), VirtualBox gets it right (as far as I care about newest kernels).

Just AMD and NVIDIA do not want to. Or perhaps they do and you are to look in the Beta Drivers section instead. When I last used VMware, nearly 2 decades ago perhaps, they always only dealt with final kernel releases, a similar policy to NVidia, VirtualBox is hardly ever lagging.

That observation matches my experiences, and what I see on the openSUSE forum. VirtualBox fixes their code as soon as possible once a given RC1 is released, but NVidia and VMware are very slow to respond.

In my case is that I only have older NVidia hardware, and the latest drivers no longer work. As a result, I have to fashion my own patches.

Larry

I found problems with this card so I run nouveau on that box. 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] (rev a1) Nvidia driver on a couple of boxes with 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti] (rev a1) and 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 610] (rev a1) Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 09/05/2013 05:08 PM, Sid Boyce wrote:

Stupid fits, after all these years I can't see why their binary blob is still that particularly valuable but that is their judgement call.

When Christian Zander was their Linux developer I used to get early and quick response patches directly and I could share them.

The progress of nouveau has been great though I have not checked how close it is to a full replacement. Regards Sid.

On 05/09/13 19:05, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

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El 05/09/13 07:19, Basil Chupin escribió:

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I am surprised that nVidia has the patience to put up with the constant moving of the goal posts - even while the game is in progress. Well. if NVIDIA wants to play this game, they have to be "patient" (as far as I am concerned they are "stupid" not "patient") they know about this, in fact it is clearly documented:

https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/stable_api_nonsense.txt

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I know of one developer who gave up with keeping his application up-to-date because of the constant changes for which he had to make adjustments which would satisfy the various distributions. The app. k9copy hasn't been touched for 3 years now and if you want to make a backup copy of your favourite DVD, for example, you now need to go MS. Sad really. What you talk about here, on the other hand, has nothing to do with kernel drivers or the kernel to userspace interface .. at all.

k9copy is subject to the KDE/QT API/ABI rules, whatever they are.

Nouveau is getting better and better where we can use it for most applications except gaming. Cheers! Roman ------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! ------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/09/13 00:14, Sid Boyce wrote:

On 04/09/13 14:37, Basil Chupin wrote:

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The (latest, released last week) nVidia driver 319.49 will not compile with the just-released kernel 3-11-0.

I was under the impression that this problem was already known about for quite some time and already fixed.

Is there a patch, please, to overcome this hassle?

BC

There is a patch for 3.11.0-rc that applied to 325.08 and it works with 3.11.0. NVidia released 325.15 on 05/08/13 for which the patch fails so it's no good for 3.11.0-rc or 3.11.0.

So far there is nothing else released that takes into account the kernel API changes. slipstream:~ # uname -r 3.11.0-smp+ slipstream:~ # cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module 325.08 Wed Jun 26 19:29:45 PDT 2013 GCC version: gcc version 4.8.1 20130806 [gcc-4_8-branch revision 201525] (SUSE Linux) Regards Sid.

Thanks, Sid, but I see that Cristian has provided a patch. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.11.1 & kernel 3.11.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Wednesday, September 04, 2013 03:37:58 PM Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

El 04/09/13 09:37, Basil Chupin escribió:

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The (latest, released last week) nVidia driver 319.49 will not compile with the just-released kernel 3-11-0.

I was under the impression that this problem was already known about for quite some time and already fixed.

Is there a patch, please, to overcome this hassle?

BC

There you go, the attached patch will help. Trying to apply your patch (nvidia-3.11.patch to openSUSE 3.11.0- rc7-2.g7032523-desktop.

CODE ----------- ~/Temp/Nvidia/Apply_Patch # ls -l total 188312 -rw-r--r-- 1 finemanruss users 48857367 Sep 4 12:06 NVIDIA-Linux- x86_64-319.49.run -rw-r--r-- 1 finemanruss users 47883205 Aug 2 15:03 NVIDIA-Linux- x86_64-325.08.run -rw-r--r-- 1 finemanruss users 48034648 Aug 7 14:24 NVIDIA-Linux- x86_64-325.15.run -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 48034648 Sep 6 13:56 NVIDIA-Linux- x86_64-325.15.run.orig -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 476 Sep 6 13:56 NVIDIA-Linux- x86_64-325.15.run.rej -rw-r--r-- 1 finemanruss users 671 Sep 6 13:33 nvidia-3.11.patch ------------ I get the following errors on console. Running as root (su - command). CODE ----------- ~/Temp/Nvidia/Apply_Patch # patch -p1 --verbose NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15.run nvidia-3.11.patch Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |Index: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15/kernel/nv-linux.h |=================================================================== |--- NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15.orig/kernel/nv-linux.h |+++ NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15/kernel/nv-linux.h -------------------------- patching file NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15.run Using Plan A... Hunk #1 FAILED at 958. 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file NVIDIA-Linux- x86_64-325.15.run.rej done ------------------- Right now I am running the nouveau driver. Russ -- openSUSE 13.1 (3.11.0-rc7-2.g7032523-desktop)|KDE 4.11.00 |Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce 8400GS. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Friday, September 06, 2013 05:55:56 PM Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

El 06/09/13 17:13, Upscope escribió:

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Right now I am running the nouveau driver.

This is a plain old source code patch, not a patch against the compressed .run archive..

you have to -x the .run archive and then apply the patch to the sources. Thanks I'll try that tomorrow. I've never done a patch but it looks like it should not be hard. Meanwhile Nouveau is working and I just updated to the lastest factory updates. So far all I've have tryed has worked.

I will post my results tomorrow as long the the power stays on. Its been up and down last three days as the pipeline installers near buy wiped out a power and cut the line yesterday. Thank god for UPS's. Russ -- openSUSE 13.1 (3.11.0-rc7-2.g7032523-desktop)|KDE 4.11.00 |Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce 8400GS. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 08:40:36 -0700 Upscope wrote:

Is there a way to repackage the.run file so I can use it on another system?

Try this: http://xmodulo.com/2013/07/how-to-create-a-self-extracting-archive-or-instal... Not tested myself. -- WBR Kyrill

On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 22:50:38 +0100 Sid Boyce wrote:

The usual way is "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15.run --apply-platch " which should generate a modified .run package, except when I tried it earlier it failed. From the posting on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/549208/patch-for-325-08-on-linux-3-... it seems you have to extract the archive and apply the patch.

Once it's patched on one box, you can replace nv-linux.h on other boxes in the extracted archives.

# sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15.run --apply-patch nvidia_3.11.diff Verifying archive integrity... OK Uncompressing NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86_64 325.15....................................................................................................................................................................... can't find file to patch at input line 5 Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |Index: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15/kernel/nv-linux.h |=================================================================== |--- NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15.orig/kernel/nv-linux.h |+++ NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15/kernel/nv-linux.h -------------------------- File to patch:

As Cristian said before:

This is a plain old source code patch, not a patch against the compressed .run archive..

you have to -x the .run archive and then apply the patch to the sources.

-- WBR Kyrill

On 08/09/13 01:18, Upscope wrote:

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On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 08:40:36 -0700 Upscope wrote:

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Is there a way to repackage the.run file so I can use it on another system? Try this: http://xmodulo.com/2013/07/how-to-create-a-self-extracting-archive-o r-installer-in-linux.html

Not tested myself. The usual way is "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15.run --apply-platch " which should generate a modified .run package, except when I tried it earlier it failed. From the posting on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/549208/patch-for-325-08-on-li nux-3-10/ it seems you have to extract the archive and apply the

On 07/09/13 20:26, Kyrill Detinov wrote: patch.

Once it's patched on one box, you can replace nv-linux.h on other boxes in the extracted archives.

# sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15.run --apply-patch nvidia_3.11.diff Verifying archive integrity... OK Uncompressing NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86_64 325.15................................................................ ...................................................................... ................................. can't find file to patch at input line 5 Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? The text leading up to this was: --------------------------

|Index: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15/kernel/nv-linux.h | =================================================================== |--- NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15.orig/kernel/nv-linux.h |+++ NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15/kernel/nv-linux.h

-------------------------- File to patch:

Regards Sid.

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-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org Thanks Sid I got it working after retrying Cristians patch and doing the

On Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:50:38 PM Sid Boyce wrote: patch command as root. Not sure why that worked and it did not work as user. The .run file was owned by <user>:users.

Oh well 325-15 works fine.

Do you still work on the Amdahl. I worked on designing a computer rooom for one in Oklahoma, USA. Best system I ever worked on back in old days was as IBM AS/400. Been on openSUSE since 1999 but am not a programmer by trade. Was in Field Engineering, Data Center and Help Desk Management. Long retired now but play with Linux a lot. I use no MS software but do help my wife with her Window 7 system.

Russ Hi Russ, I joined Amdahl in June 2nd. 1978 from Univac UK tech support.

I retired end of March 2004 but I still maintain an interest in what they do though it's mainly SPARC systems. Amdahl was fully merged into Fujitsu in 2003 and I was lucky to get early retirement. I really enjoyed my visits to Sunnyvale which were mainly to get clued up on new systems, oversee them being introduced here in Europe and provide training for Field Engineers and Marketing. I worked for UK/Europe and Worldwide support on Mainframes, Fujitsu and Sun SPARC and also supported IBM Mainframes for Amdahl as a third party maintainer. It was fun - give me a Mainframe any day as it is in a class of its own - it took around 8 hours to have a Mainframe delivered, installed and running a customer's system whereas the large SPARC systems took a week but they were good for the bank balance. I started with the first Linux kernel on an old Toshiba laptop with 2 floppy drives in late 1991. I also installed Linux on Mainframes and SPARC whilst still working. I still have a Sun SPARC Enterprise 4500 here which hardly gets powered on as it swallows electricity but one day I'll install Linux on it. I stopped using Windows when Windows 95 was around and never looked back as Linux did everything and then some even back then. I used StarOffice, Citrix Linux Client, Cisco VPN client for Linux, Crossover Office and X3270 to do all my work at a time when colleagues thought I was totally loco using only Linux. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

El 06/09/13 23:11, Patrick Shanahan escribió:

Applied patch and it says it was successful. Now how do I reassemble the "run" packaga or install from the expanded package.

just run ./nvidia-installer .. in the same directory to install the driver.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Patrick Shanahan [09-06-13 23:51]:

* Cristian Rodríguez [09-06-13 23:39]:

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El 06/09/13 23:11, Patrick Shanahan escribió:

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Applied patch and it says it was successful. Now how do I reassemble the "run" packaga or install from the expanded package.

just run ./nvidia-installer .. in the same directory to install the driver..

I tried that earlier but:

NVIDIA Software Installer for Unix/Linux ERROR: Invalid .manifest file; error on line 126.

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Do I need to uninstall the existing driver before trying to install 319.49? Present driver is 319.23 on kernel-desktop-3.10.10-25.1.g8038aea.x86_64 tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Cristian Rodríguez [09-07-13 00:39]:

El 06/09/13 23:49, Patrick Shanahan escribió:

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* Cristian Rodríguez [09-06-13 23:39]:

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El 06/09/13 23:11, Patrick Shanahan escribió:

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Applied patch and it says it was successful. Now how do I reassemble the "run" packaga or install from the expanded package.

just run ./nvidia-installer .. in the same directory to install the driver..

I tried that earlier but:

NVIDIA Software Installer for Unix/Linux ERROR: Invalid .manifest file; error on line 126.

???

tks,

How did you screwed it up ? :-S it is easy

# sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15.run -x # cd NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15 # patch -p1 < /path/to/nvidia-3.11.patch # ./nvidia-installer

I guess patching 319.49 rather than 325.15 ?? tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

2013/9/7 Patrick Shanahan :

* Patrick Shanahan [09-07-13 00:55]:

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* Cristian Rodríguez [09-07-13 00:39]:

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El 06/09/13 23:49, Patrick Shanahan escribió:

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* Cristian Rodríguez [09-06-13 23:39]:

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El 06/09/13 23:11, Patrick Shanahan escribió:

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Applied patch and it says it was successful. Now how do I reassemble the "run" packaga or install from the expanded package.

just run ./nvidia-installer .. in the same directory to install the driver..

I tried that earlier but:

NVIDIA Software Installer for Unix/Linux ERROR: Invalid .manifest file; error on line 126.

???

tks,

How did you screwed it up ? :-S it is easy

# sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15.run -x # cd NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15 # patch -p1 < /path/to/nvidia-3.11.patch # ./nvidia-installer

I guess patching 319.49 rather than 325.15 ??

No, expanded files on external drive and apparently that will not/did not work and moving the expanded file-tree to a local hard-drive does work. Thank you for your time and patience. --

The AMD Catalyst/fglrx driver installs fine with this kernel? I don't see Nvidia on list of the Platinum sponsors of openSUSE http://en.opensuse.org/Sponsors Nvidia tends to disappear of the graphics chip market, but you insist to give more support to nvidia than AMD, despite nvidia don't gives You a single line of code. Take a look at: http://www.maximumpc.com/amd_and_intel_increase_share_graphics_market_q22013 http://www.eweek.com/small-business/amd-intel-lead-struggling-graphics-chip-... http://www.dvhardware.net/article59086.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org