Hi there, On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 02:44:55PM +0200, David Mayr wrote:

Am Montag, 23. April 2007 14:08 schrieb CyberOrg:

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Is anyone working on getting openSUSE native packages for LTSP 5 ?

If so I would like to help, if not I would like to start working on it and would need all the help I can get, so if anyone is interested please get in touch with me.

See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5 :

"For Novell, Christoph Thiel and Andreas Jaeger are working on integrating LTSP-5 into the next release of openSUSE."

I have no clue, who added us to that page :) Currently, I'm not aware of anyone working actively on making LTSP5 work on openSUSE. AJ and myself were involved in looking into what would be needed to get it running -- but those efforts stalled, IIUC. Maybe it's time to push it again... Best, Christoph -- Christoph Thiel, Tech. Project Management, Research & Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

"Robison, Jonathon (M.)" <jrobiso2@ford.com> writes:

From what I can see, SuSE is the only major vendor not integrating LTSP into their distro.

Considering that distro integration is now LTSP's "chosen method" for availability, I think this should be looked into. I dislike having such choices forced upon us by the LTSP developers, but setting that annoyance aside, I think it's worth the effort.

If somebody is doing it, we're happy to include it - but we have to prioritize where to put our resource to first, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

David Mayr escribió:

I'd really like to work on this, but have no time for it until july because I have to write my diploma thesis. I have some extended experience with LTSP 4.0 up to 4.2. I think it would be very good to have it in openSUSE. It offers many new opportunities by e.g. revitalizing old computers or making school class rooms cheaper and easier to administrate.

As I told in Bugzilla, count me in, Im interested on this too, however we need a roadmap to know exactly what needs to be done and the estimated amount of time it will take,

On 4/24/07, James Tremblay <jamesat@comcast.net> wrote:

to all interested in thin clients\ LTSP, please join us in #opensuse-kiwi @irc.freenode.net around 9 am EST tomorrow to help establish a plan of attack, that way we can catch cyberorg and some of the other Kiwi \ thin client technicians...including on occasion glunardi.

Err, what's that in UTC/GMT ? OK, here is the status : 1. LTSP 5 is a completely new approach than 4.2 so there will be no tarballs to get anymore. What is in place of tarball are some scripts. 2. One of the script creates chroot environment using Distro's own packages, benefit of that is LTSP does not have to package/maintain that chrooted distro. We have got KIWI which can do this job, we can look at how we can do that. 3. Other scripts of interest are ltsp-client-setup and ltsp-client scripts which I believe does all the mounting and sharing/exporting local devices. These scripts would need to be modified to make them suitable for SUSE. Probably we can get udev rules setup to do that. 4. Scripts can be fetched from here: bzr get http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ogra/ltsp/feisty-ltsp Many of them might be Ubuntu specific, so someone would have to go through them and see what we can use as it is, use after modification and write our own. 5. I experimented with kiwi, created a chroot image, used ltsp provided pexboot kernel and initrd and was successful in loging in to the server using xdmcp client on the terminal. 6. LTSP no longer uses xdmcp, but ldm (ltsp display manager) which uses X over ssh. We will need re-brand it SUSE specific. 7. Jammcq and Ogra would be more than happy to help and has invited any SUSE hacker who wants to work on LTSP5 to the weeklong LTSP hackfest starting 23 July In short here are the pending tasks: 1. Go through ltsp-client scripts and adapt for our purpose 2. Create kiwi-ltsp-desc package that users can use to create ltsp chroot (I can do 0.0.1 release, needs a lot of work after that :) ) 3. Rebrand ldm (should be easy) 4. Create an easy to use deployment script/GUI (YaST module?) 5. Look into Ubuntu/debian ltsp administration tools and adapt them for SUSE 6. Can we aim to complete the integration by 10.3 release? I am not a coder, so I would not be able to do heavy duty coding/scripting, I would be able to help doing just a basic scripting, packaging and testing. Cheers -J -- CyberOrg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Op Monday 23 April 2007 16:17:58 schreef Christoph Thiel:

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See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5 :

  "For Novell, Christoph Thiel and Andreas Jaeger are working    on integrating LTSP-5 into the next release of openSUSE."

I have no clue, who added us to that page :) Currently, I'm not aware of anyone working actively on making LTSP5 work on openSUSE. AJ and myself were involved in looking into what would be needed to get it running -- but those efforts stalled, IIUC. Maybe it's time to push it again...

In Januari: by Jim Himself: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/rdiff/Ltsp/Ltsp5?rev1=1.9&rev2=1.8 Around that time you were indeed involved, but that's was about it and that was than. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

I found the source location weeks ago but it was not as it is now,would someone like to look again, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp BTW, it sounds like with a little help we could actually change LTSP5 into something much more flexible if we replace the "ltsp-client-build" script with something that utilizes KIWI and add a management tool to build the different clients\images. cyberorg and I were looking at the code this AM. it will of course take some tweaking to get the local app and dev support running. You guys can do this in your sleep. your a great team and I really appreciate having you all to count on. -- James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District Novell CNE 3\4\5 CLE \ NCE in training. http://en.opensuse.org/education --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org