[opensuse-factory] New login screen to Novell bugzilla - please remove it
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Novell has done a new cute screen when login in to bugzilla, with moving stars in black background. It uses 80% CPU! Please, undo that change. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH16thtTMYHG2NR9URAmJMAJ9EzO+w/ja7zJNZwdZPFZNefOfbggCeKl2H 1NpUTSizFNmjSnELKC2KQ8E= =GtG4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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Hi,
Novell has done a new cute screen when login in to bugzilla, with moving stars in black background. It's a flash animation
It uses 80% CPU!
Please, undo that change. +1
-- Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Vetter schrieb: | On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Carlos E. R. wrote: | |> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> |> |> Hi, |> |> Novell has done a new cute screen when login in to bugzilla, with moving stars |> in black background. It's absolutely ugly and does not match the rest of bugzilla, nor openSUSE (color wise). Reminds me of some kiddy hacker website ^^. At least, I can log in without using Flash. | It's a flash animation | |> It uses 80% CPU! |> |> Please, undo that change. | +1 +1 | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH17IFaQ44ga2xxAoRAgr+AJ4xa1IDTDzf5VWwZkIDKnK8aTuX5wCghVak Slnnn5XgP26Qhi9Jj/zOtK0= =gzR0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
It gets worse though... has anyone tried going to the Novell.com main page? The menu navigation nicely hides behind the huge Flash banner and you cannot use the menu navigation at all. The problem is a lot bigger than just the login screen... although the login screen animation has to be one of the more mindless and useless flash animations I've seen in a long time. it has zero purpose... it doesn't even attempt to convey any information. C. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 12/03/2008, Carlos E. R.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi,
Novell has done a new cute screen when login in to bugzilla, with moving stars in black background.
It uses 80% CPU!
Please, undo that change.
Indeed, I did file a bug but it was marked as invalid. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=369536 10 other people on CC list there too. -- Benjamin Weber --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Benji Weber wrote:
On 12/03/2008, Carlos E. R.
wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi,
Novell has done a new cute screen when login in to bugzilla, with moving stars in black background.
It uses 80% CPU!
Please, undo that change.
Indeed, I did file a bug but it was marked as invalid.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=369536
10 other people on CC list there too.
As stated in the bug report, please send all complaints to: http://www.novell.com/inc/feedback/feedback.jsp -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Onsdag den 12. Marts 2008 11:21:06 skrev Benji Weber:
Geeez... I thought Novell had moved ~everyone to Linux - what the hell did they use to create the horrible contraption with didn't think Flash development was possible on Linux? It's a disgrace, bordering on insult. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2008/03/12 11:34 (GMT+0100) Martin Schlander apparently typed:
Geeez...
I thought Novell had moved ~everyone to Linux - what the hell did they use to create the horrible contraption with didn't think Flash development was possible on Linux?
It's a disgrace, bordering on insult.
Not likely whoever is responsible for that knows anything about Linux. It includes http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=Shockwa... for those of us who refuse to install that awful annoyance. Anyone ever find a SUSE on which using such a link could ever succeed? -- "Let us not love with words or in talk only. Let us love by what we do." 1 John 3:18 NLV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Felix Miata schreef:
On 2008/03/12 11:34 (GMT+0100) Martin Schlander apparently typed:
Geeez...
I thought Novell had moved ~everyone to Linux - what the hell did they use to create the horrible contraption with didn't think Flash development was possible on Linux?
It's a disgrace, bordering on insult.
Not likely whoever is responsible for that knows anything about Linux. It includes http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=Shockwa... for those of us who refuse to install that awful annoyance. Anyone ever find a SUSE on which using such a link could ever succeed?
LOL... -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.24.1-6-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha2 KDE: 4.0.2 (KDE 4.0.2) "release 8.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2008/03/12 11:34 (GMT+0100) Martin Schlander apparently typed:
Geeez...
I thought Novell had moved ~everyone to Linux - what the hell did they use to create the horrible contraption with didn't think Flash development was possible on Linux?
It's a disgrace, bordering on insult.
Not likely whoever is responsible for that knows anything about Linux. It includes http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=Shockw aveFlash for those of us who refuse to install that awful annoyance. Anyone ever find a SUSE on which using such a link could ever succeed? I received serious notice that the new Bugzilla Login will be changed either back or to something static by today.
Best Michael -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Michael Loeffler escribió:
I received serious notice that the new Bugzilla Login will be changed either back or to something static by today.
That's excelent news. :-) , because currently the login page only lacks of an animated Darth Vader with a voice saying "I OWN your CPU" **grin** **grin** -- "Morality is merely an interpretation of certain phenomena — more precisely, a misinterpretation." - Friedrich Nietzsche Cristian Rodríguez R. Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
That's excelent news. :-) , because currently the login page only lacks of an animated Darth Vader with a voice saying "I OWN your CPU" **grin** **grin**
LOL :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Alberto Passalacqua schreef:
That's excelent news. :-) , because currently the login page only lacks of an animated Darth Vader with a voice saying "I OWN your CPU" **grin** **grin**
LOL :-)
I don't know, but it seems the advertisement looks gone.... -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.24.1-6-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha2 KDE: 4.0.2 (KDE 4.0.2) "release 8.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2008-03-12 at 16:45 +0100, Michael Loeffler wrote:
I received serious notice that the new Bugzilla Login will be changed either back or to something static by today.
Thanks! - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH2FAWtTMYHG2NR9URAnTjAJ98Gx3CnvRw9F1YE+NJM9kxbVU5YgCfYNsw jtXPzj+CkAP78FRUO43tXyo= =oWso -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. schreef:
The Wednesday 2008-03-12 at 16:45 +0100, Michael Loeffler wrote:
I received serious notice that the new Bugzilla Login will be changed either back or to something static by today.
Thanks!
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
The ad is gone.. Looks Black, but not so bad...? -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.24.1-6-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha2 KDE: 4.0.2 (KDE 4.0.2) "release 8.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2008-03-13 at 09:09 +0100, Oddball wrote:
The ad is gone.. Looks Black, but not so bad...?
I was unable to try. I clicked "login" and was logged in without questions. As I didn't close the browser yesterday, there must be a cookie somewhere allowing bypasssing of log in. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH2P37tTMYHG2NR9URAtt/AJ0T45S2x7n4LJ9FO4TpCOWq8/r1kwCePlTv reGC1I7vYbjqRUC6xVE5IGw= =Ilir -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. schreef:
I was unable to try. I clicked "login" and was logged in without questions. As I didn't close the browser yesterday, there must be a cookie somewhere allowing bypasssing of log in.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
That must have been specialy for you ;) With me firefox always has name and pw ready, but i have to confirm. -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.24.1-6-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha2 KDE: 4.0.2 (KDE 4.0.2) "release 8.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. schreef:
Hi,
Novell has done a new cute screen when login in to bugzilla, with moving stars in black background.
It uses 80% CPU!
Please, undo that change.
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
If flash or java does not work, there is no consumption.... ;) -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.24.1-6-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha2 KDE: 4.0.2 (KDE 4.0.2) "release 8.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2008/03/12 11:21 (GMT+0100) Oddball apparently typed:
If flash or java does not work, there is no consumption.... ;)
OTOH, for those of us using certain development versions of web browsing software that leak memory when flash objects load, there can be difficult to recover extra consumption. :-( -- "Let us not love with words or in talk only. Let us love by what we do." 1 John 3:18 NLV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch 12 März 2008 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Hi,
Novell has done a new cute screen when login in to bugzilla, with moving stars in black background.
It uses 80% CPU!
Please, undo that change.
I'm afraid opensuse-factory is the wrong audience, you need to target the bugzilla team (you can file bugzilla bugs in bugzilla :) And yes, "Novell" hates it too :) Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Someone send to the nonsense list opensuse@opensuse.org with the link
provided in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=369536#c5 and
ask everyone to give feedback about it
The link is http://www.novell.com/inc/feedback/feedback.jsp and the
page you want to give feedback is
https://bugzilla.novell.com/index.cgi?GoAheadAndLogIn=1
If only we were buying hardware instead of producing that stupid page...
Your feedback is very important to Novell, it says in there
Best regards
Marcio
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Stephan Kulow
Am Mittwoch 12 März 2008 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Hi,
Novell has done a new cute screen when login in to bugzilla, with moving stars in black background.
It uses 80% CPU!
Please, undo that change.
I'm afraid opensuse-factory is the wrong audience, you need to target the bugzilla team (you can file bugzilla bugs in bugzilla :)
And yes, "Novell" hates it too :)
Greetings, Stephan
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Carlos E. R. escribió:
Hi,
Novell has done a new cute screen when login in to bugzilla, with moving stars in black background.
It uses 80% CPU!
Please, undo that change.
While I indeed think the page is not very appropiate for a login prompt , since when is a website problem if a browser uses 80% of the CPU ?? Please open a bug report against the relevant browser !! -- "Morality is merely an interpretation of certain phenomena — more precisely, a misinterpretation." - Friedrich Nietzsche Cristian Rodríguez R. Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 12/03/2008, Cristian Rodríguez
While I indeed think the page is not very appropiate for a login prompt , since when is a website problem if a browser uses 80% of the CPU ??
Please open a bug report against the relevant browser !!
It's a flashplayer not a browser issue. Happens in both firefox and konqueror (worse in konqueror). Flash player 9.115 is extremely slow, uses a lot of CPU playing anything, especially animations that run for more than a few seconds. You can choose between the older .75 player which was somewhat faster but had security vulnerabilities, or the new one which is extremely slow. Adobe seem extremely slow fixing any issues in the linux version. Fortunately things like youtube videos can be played with mplayer plugin so there's less need for flash. Except when Novell use it for their whole website. -- Benjamin Weber --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Benji Weber wrote:
Fortunately things like youtube videos can be played with mplayer plugin so there's less need for flash. Except when Novell use it for their whole website.
I uninstalled flash player some time ago (those youtube videos just distract from work too much ;-)) and am still able to login to bugzilla. I'm not saying that there's no issue with the login page design, but it doesn't _force_ me to use flash at least (maybe some parts of www.novell.com do, I don't know). Michal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 12 March 2008 06:45, Benji Weber wrote:
On 12/03/2008, Cristian Rodríguez
wrote: While I indeed think the page is not very appropiate for a login prompt , since when is a website problem if a browser uses 80% of the CPU ??
Please open a bug report against the relevant browser !!
It's a flashplayer not a browser issue. Happens in both firefox and konqueror (worse in konqueror). Flash player 9.115 is extremely slow, uses a lot of CPU playing anything, especially animations that run for more than a few seconds.
I use the Flashblock Firefox extension. If replaces all flash animations on a page with a simple frame and a Flash logo. You can click individual animations to activate them and configure a list of sites from which Flash animations will play by default.
You can choose between the older .75 player which was somewhat faster but had security vulnerabilities, or the new one which is extremely slow. Adobe seem extremely slow fixing any issues in the linux version.
There are also sites that require a current Flash to operate.
...
-- Benjamin Weber
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While I indeed think the page is not very appropiate for a login prompt , since when is a website problem if a browser uses 80% of the CPU ??
Please open a bug report against the relevant browser !!
Hello, it's a well known problem of the flash plugin. It was reported a lot of times during almost all the beta testing phases I took part to (the whole 10.x family). Maybe a Linux company should think to its users before choosing the format used for its site. Don't you agree? Regards, Alberto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Alberto Passalacqua schreef:
While I indeed think the page is not very appropiate for a login prompt , since when is a website problem if a browser uses 80% of the CPU ??
Please open a bug report against the relevant browser !!
Hello, it's a well known problem of the flash plugin. It was reported a lot of times during almost all the beta testing phases I took part to (the whole 10.x family).
Maybe a Linux company should think to its users before choosing the format used for its site. Don't you agree?
Regards, Alberto
Maybe it is just a sick joke? -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.24.1-6-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha2 KDE: 4.0.2 (KDE 4.0.2) "release 8.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu 13 Mar 2008 03:05:08 NZDT +1300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
While I indeed think the page is not very appropiate for a login prompt , since when is a website problem if a browser uses 80% of the CPU ??
Running a web browser with flash (= a proprietory, insecure annoyance) always enabled, instead of for only a few sites where absolutely necessary? Nuts. Please open a bug against the relevant users!! Mind you, seems I missed all the entertainment. What a shame... ;) Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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Alberto Passalacqua
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Andreas Vetter
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Benji Weber
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Carlos E. R.
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Clayton
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Cristian Rodríguez
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Druid
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Felix Miata
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Felix-Nicolai Müller
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Martin Schlander
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Michael Loeffler
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Michal Marek
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Oddball
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Randall R Schulz
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Stephan Kulow
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Volker Kuhlmann