[opensuse-factory] Use of smolt
Hi, While having fun with a gnome-packagekit update, I noticed that we patch it to launch smolt on startup if needed. This is, hrm, wrong -- it's better to have an autostart file for this. However it got me thinking about smolt in general. Currently, as far as I can tell, the user is prompted to send his smolt profile on installation only. I would guess that this means the user won't submit his profile after an upgrade to a new openSUSE version, which sounds wrong to me. Am I understanding things right? Should we change this? Also, by default, at least in GNOME, we just launch smoltGui which, hrm, is not what is most interesting to submit the profile. I think what we'd want here (at least for GNOME, again) is a really simple UI that asks you if you want to submit your profile, and gives you the URL/password afterwards. Any opinion? Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On 18.02.2010 12:36, Vincent Untz wrote:
Currently, as far as I can tell, the user is prompted to send his smolt profile on installation only. I would guess that this means the user won't submit his profile after an upgrade to a new openSUSE version, which sounds wrong to me.
Unless he manually re-sends or enables the smolt init script no.
Should we change this?
Automatically not no. I already had a lot of angry bugreports about the sole existence of the service that would do this automatically. So the only thing we could do is trigger a single run in the upgrade process. With the greeter thingee that was as simple as touching some file (/var/run/smolt_do_opensuse_run).
Also, by default, at least in GNOME, we just launch smoltGui which, hrm, is not what is most interesting to submit the profile. I think what we'd want here (at least for GNOME, again) is a really simple UI that asks you if you want to submit your profile, and gives you the URL/password afterwards.
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On Thursday 18 February 2010 05:36:53 Vincent Untz wrote:
I think what we'd want here (at least for GNOME, again) is a really simple UI that asks you if you want to submit your profile,
+1 additionally explaining that is not privacy intrusion, just anonymous contribution to better understanding of hardware by software engineers.
and gives you the URL/password afterwards.
With current GUI it is done at the end of submission. -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Le jeudi 18 février 2010, à 13:10 +0100, Henne Vogelsang a écrit :
Hi,
On 18.02.2010 12:36, Vincent Untz wrote:
Currently, as far as I can tell, the user is prompted to send his smolt profile on installation only. I would guess that this means the user won't submit his profile after an upgrade to a new openSUSE version, which sounds wrong to me.
Unless he manually re-sends or enables the smolt init script no.
Should we change this?
Automatically not no. I already had a lot of angry bugreports about the sole existence of the service that would do this automatically. So the only thing we could do is trigger a single run in the upgrade process. With the greeter thingee that was as simple as touching some file (/var/run/smolt_do_opensuse_run).
Oh, it certainly shouldn't be done automatically. But just a new notification "you've upgraded, please take some time to submit the profile, blablabla" can be helpful. The thing is that I'm pretty sure that some people are looking at the smolt data to look which distros are used, or if some hardware is supported on openSUSE, and if we don't make it easy to submit something on upgrades, the openSUSE data will just disappear with time.
Also, by default, at least in GNOME, we just launch smoltGui which, hrm, is not what is most interesting to submit the profile. I think what we'd want here (at least for GNOME, again) is a really simple UI that asks you if you want to submit your profile, and gives you the URL/password afterwards.
This was part of the greeter. Its dead Jim ;)
Actually, it was never part of the greeter ;-) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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