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Roger Whittaker

1 Nov 2016 1 Nov '16

11:03

I'm finding KDE noticeably sluggish since the latest update, with kwin_x11 using quite a lot of resources. And "flip switch" Alt-Tab switching has gone away. (Graphics driver is nouveau.) Are others seeing similar, and is it worth a bug report? -- ======================== Roger Whittaker roger@disruptive.org.uk ======================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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1 Nov 1 Nov

11:14

On 01-11-16 12:03, Roger Whittaker wrote:

I'm finding KDE noticeably sluggish since the latest update, with kwin_x11 using quite a lot of resources. And "flip switch" Alt-Tab switching has gone away. (Graphics driver is nouveau.)

Are others seeing similar, and is it worth a bug report?

No KDE problems or differences with to pre latest update here. But I have nouveau blacklisted (laptop with nVidia Optimus technology). Using only the Intel chip. No alt-tab could be Compositor related? I have OpenGL 3.1 configured in Settings -> Display and Monitor -> Compositor. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Wolfgang Bauer

11:32

Am Dienstag, 1. November 2016, 11:03:05 schrieb Roger Whittaker:

I'm finding KDE noticeably sluggish since the latest update, with kwin_x11 using quite a lot of resources. And "flip switch" Alt-Tab switching has gone away. (Graphics driver is nouveau.)

Check that you have Mesa-dri-nouveau installed. This contains the nouveau OpenGL driver, and got split out recently because it has severe problems (on some systems at least). See https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1005323 If it's not installed, Plasma would (have to) use Mesa's software OpenGL renderer, which would of course explain that it's "sluggish". And kwin would switch back to XRender compositing, which isn't supported by "Flip Switch" (it requires OpenGL). Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Roger Whittaker

11:37

On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 12:32:11PM +0100, Wolfgang Bauer wrote:

Am Dienstag, 1. November 2016, 11:03:05 schrieb Roger Whittaker:

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I'm finding KDE noticeably sluggish since the latest update, with kwin_x11 using quite a lot of resources. And "flip switch" Alt-Tab switching has gone away. (Graphics driver is nouveau.)

Check that you have Mesa-dri-nouveau installed.

Fantastic! Solved. Thank you. -- ======================== Roger Whittaker roger@disruptive.org.uk http://disruptive.org.uk ======================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar

11:56

On Tue, 2016-11-01 at 11:37 +0000, Roger Whittaker wrote:

On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 12:32:11PM +0100, Wolfgang Bauer wrote:

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Am Dienstag, 1. November 2016, 11:03:05 schrieb Roger Whittaker:

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I'm finding KDE noticeably sluggish since the latest update, with kwin_x11 using quite a lot of resources. And "flip switch" Alt- Tab switching has gone away. (Graphics driver is nouveau.)

Check that you have Mesa-dri-nouveau installed.

Fantastic! Solved. Thank you.

For the record: you did not update using 'zypper dup', did you? That should actually have auto-triggered that driver for installation on NVidia systems. Cheers, Dominique

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Andrei Borzenkov

12:02

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:

For the record: you did not update using 'zypper dup', did you? That should actually have auto-triggered that driver for installation on NVidia systems.

Do you have some pointers to description of this functionality? Does it match against PCI ID? Where is this matching defined? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar

12:09

On Tue, 2016-11-01 at 15:02 +0300, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:

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For the record: you did not update using 'zypper dup', did you? That should actually have auto-triggered that driver for installation on NVidia systems.

Do you have some pointers to description of this functionality? Does it match against PCI ID? Where is this matching defined?

The first hit the landed 'simply' supplements xf86-video-nouveau. There is likely a change going to happen though, as xf86-video-nouveau supplements xorg-x11-server, meaning it is installed on every machine, irrespective of the hardware found. But that driver ALSO has PCI ID matching enabled:

rpm -q --supplements xf86-video-nouveau

Cheers, Dominique

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Roger Whittaker

12:04

On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 12:56:38PM +0100, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:

On Tue, 2016-11-01 at 11:37 +0000, Roger Whittaker wrote:

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On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 12:32:11PM +0100, Wolfgang Bauer wrote:

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Am Dienstag, 1. November 2016, 11:03:05 schrieb Roger Whittaker:

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I'm finding KDE noticeably sluggish since the latest update, with kwin_x11 using quite a lot of resources. And "flip switch" Alt- Tab switching has gone away. (Graphics driver is nouveau.)

Check that you have Mesa-dri-nouveau installed.

Fantastic! Solved. Thank you.

For the record: you did not update using 'zypper dup', did you? That should actually have auto-triggered that driver for installation on NVidia systems.

I did "zypper up". -- ======================== Roger Whittaker roger@disruptive.org.uk http://disruptive.org.uk ======================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar

12:09

On Tue, 2016-11-01 at 12:04 +0000, Roger Whittaker wrote:

On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 12:56:38PM +0100, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:

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On Tue, 2016-11-01 at 11:37 +0000, Roger Whittaker wrote:

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On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 12:32:11PM +0100, Wolfgang Bauer wrote:

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Am Dienstag, 1. November 2016, 11:03:05 schrieb Roger Whittaker:

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I'm finding KDE noticeably sluggish since the latest update, with kwin_x11 using quite a lot of resources. And "flip switch" Alt- Tab switching has gone away. (Graphics driver is nouveau.)

Check that you have Mesa-dri-nouveau installed.

Fantastic! Solved. Thank you.

For the record: you did not update using 'zypper dup', did you? That should actually have auto-triggered that driver for installation on NVidia systems.

I did "zypper up".

Ok - that explains it....

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Achim Gratz

17:38

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: KDE behaviour since 20161028 update

Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar writes:

For the record: you did not update using 'zypper dup', did you? That should actually have auto-triggered that driver for installation on NVidia systems.

In fact 'zypper dup' installed this package on my box which has never been even near an NVidia card in all it's existence. Is it safe to remove together with the other nouveau packages that inexplicably are present, then? Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Wavetables for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldUserWavetables -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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