[opensuse-factory] New thunderbird little problems
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I just installed 11.2 M6 from the DVD (openSUSE-DVD-Build0233-i586.iso) I copied over the /.thunderbird directory from my 11.1 test partition, to save time configuring. There are two problems: By default, it saves locally all email from imap accounts: for a gmail account, this is terrible, I have thousands and thousands, and can't succeed, too many. I had to dissable it. The other is that now, when I hit "reply to all" on a mail list, I do get reply to all, instead of that trick we had that instead gave us the reply to list. Does this work differently now, or is it a bug? I don't remember right now what setting we changed :-? - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2-factory) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqjo10ACgkQU92UU+smfQXBWACfYKT7Rf/x1iQajhGe8m3FiK03 JOUAn2yn2CbzUfZvijj1ZO6ETViFfNfC =r0Ul -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am 06.09.2009 13:56, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
I just installed 11.2 M6 from the DVD (openSUSE-DVD-Build0233-i586.iso)
I copied over the /.thunderbird directory from my 11.1 test partition, to save time configuring. There are two problems:
By default, it saves locally all email from imap accounts: for a gmail account, this is terrible, I have thousands and thousands, and can't succeed, too many. I had to dissable it.
That default changed upstream and I partly agree but for GMail that doesn't make sense in every case.
The other is that now, when I hit "reply to all" on a mail list, I do get reply to all, instead of that trick we had that instead gave us the reply to list. Does this work differently now, or is it a bug? I don't remember right now what setting we changed :-?
Down in the message pane you should get a "Reply to list" button. As the original TB3 supports that all the workarounds have been removed from the package. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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Am 06.09.2009 13:56, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
The other is that now, when I hit "reply to all" on a mail list, I do get reply to all, instead of that trick we had that instead gave us the reply to list. Does this work differently now, or is it a bug? I don't remember right now what setting we changed :-?
Down in the message pane you should get a "Reply to list" button. As the original TB3 supports that all the workarounds have been removed from the package.
Yes, I'm seeing it now, and it is very nice. The weird thing is that it wasn't there when I looked before emailing that... go figure. Which reminds me... is there a way to reduce the area used by that pane? My display is small. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2-factory) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqjpawACgkQU92UU+smfQXXGQCcDU8qKQucYCbTg0/u4rKRMMLm AxMAnjN4BY1SxB/8BgowSaI3gjMokAfX =p/mq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Op 06-09-09 14:06, Carlos E. R. schreef:
Which reminds me... is there a way to reduce the area used by that pane? My display is small.
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R. (from 11.2-factory)
I miss that too... Nice that the filters on folders and messages, with some changes, works again :) -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.31-rc7-4-desktop x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-SFN1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 6 (x86_64) KDE: 4.3.00 (KDE 4.3.0) "release 3" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am 06.09.2009 14:06, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Yes, I'm seeing it now, and it is very nice. The weird thing is that it wasn't there when I looked before emailing that... go figure.
Which reminds me... is there a way to reduce the area used by that pane? My display is small.
I don't think so :-( I have the same issue on my laptop. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 09/06/2009 08:17 AM, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Am 06.09.2009 14:06, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Yes, I'm seeing it now, and it is very nice. The weird thing is that it wasn't there when I looked before emailing that... go figure.
Which reminds me... is there a way to reduce the area used by that pane? My display is small.
I don't think so :-( I have the same issue on my laptop.
Wolfgang
Try playing with View Layout and switching to vertical veiw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/2009 03:57 PM, Dale Ritchey wrote:
Which reminds me... is there a way to reduce the area used by that pane? My display is small.
I don't think so :-( I have the same issue on my laptop.
Try playing with View Layout and switching to vertical veiw
Horrible. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2-factory) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqjymAACgkQU92UU+smfQWtRgCbBWQcsS6fqbs7soECL4JqSpaT eBkAnjcW4Qvy6Sr1Iq1JmPz5qdrZPfC0 =i54x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 04:42:41PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 09/06/2009 03:57 PM, Dale Ritchey wrote:
Which reminds me... is there a way to reduce the area used by that pane? My display is small.
I don't think so :-( I have the same issue on my laptop.
Try playing with View Layout and switching to vertical veiw
Horrible.
Use mutt. Then you do not have that issue. :-P houghi -- Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare. -- Blair Houghton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/2009 05:36 PM, houghi wrote:
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 04:42:41PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Try playing with View Layout and switching to vertical veiw
Horrible.
Use mutt. Then you do not have that issue. :-P
I normally use Alpine. But on test partitions (see signature), I use Thunderbird because it is much faster to setup than the entire alpine, postfix, amavis, spamassassin, procmail chain. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2-factory) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqj/I8ACgkQU92UU+smfQWfOQCeO/dlfxkvi6cOZOZclP8hDnLR FLwAnivRr20HDx+8Vm6WgXXS/GwlUuvx =JxGP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/2009 01:56 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
The other is that now, when I hit "reply to all" on a mail list, I do get reply to all, instead of that trick we had that instead gave us the reply to list. Does this work differently now, or is it a bug? I don't remember right now what setting we changed :-?
Wow. I'm not sure, but just now a "reply to list" droplist/button has suddenly appeared in the grey background area of each message. I'm sure it was not there a while ago, I looked. Weird... - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2-factory) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqjpMMACgkQU92UU+smfQU5yACglQ1S3aPX6OvDNUaOzKd4CJJw segAoJP946X653jTL3IME/FLWiEliK90 =u+c4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/2009 01:56 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
I just installed 11.2 M6 from the DVD (openSUSE-DVD-Build0233-i586.iso)
I copied over the /.thunderbird directory from my 11.1 test partition, to save time configuring. There are two problems:
Another one. I want to compose a new email in html format. How? I don't see the option anywhere, it is plain text. I don't see anywhere the tools to change formatting, and the "format" entry in the options menu is missing. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2-factory) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqjzpQACgkQU92UU+smfQWVqQCaA4Tz29lTdrLznak55rVgGAhp PfMAn0rKEPslTv2itcTP2KGLxzaGMA+1 =zLiN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/2009 05:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Another one.
I want to compose a new email in html format. How? I don't see the option anywhere, it is plain text. I don't see anywhere the tools to change formatting, and the "format" entry in the options menu is missing.
I Found out that there is no way to select compose a single email in html. The method is in account preferences, compose section, enable the box for html compsing, then all emails are composed in html mode. Once the compose window is opened, we can go to options, and select send as html only, plain text only, or mix. But even if send as plain text is selected the compose remains in html mode (I hope I did not made a mistake and send this in html). What would be useful is a button to select compose or reply or forward a single email in html mode, which is a thing I very seldom do - but I needed to, to run a test. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2-factory) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqj/fAACgkQU92UU+smfQXtAwCaA+IjnSF41/qE7uxAsX0yqydw OyEAn3GPywtWUM1zpL5RFvEmeBnaOeQB =YY1B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
What would be useful is a button to select compose or reply or forward a single email in html mode, which is a thing I very seldom do - but I needed to, to run a test.
<tongue-in-cheek>SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 2 has that dropdown select on the "Compose" toolbar button to allow exactly that.</tongue-in-cheek> Robert Kaiser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2009-09-06 at 22:58 +0200, Robert Kaiser wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
What would be useful is a button to select compose or reply or forward a single email in html mode, which is a thing I very seldom do - but I needed to, to run a test.
<tongue-in-cheek>SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 2 has that dropdown select on the "Compose" toolbar button to allow exactly that.</tongue-in-cheek>
Curious! I thought they shared the same code. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkqkNGwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X2iQCePN2GkgIcCzx04ltGHkNV/Cue DaMAn3+wB3Se1AO+rCN9nFssqPlPFXPL =FMOw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/09/07 00:15 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
On 2009/09/06 22:58 (GMT+0200), Robert Kaiser wrote:
<tongue-in-cheek>SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 2 has that dropdown select on the "Compose" toolbar button to allow exactly that.</tongue-in-cheek>
Curious! I thought they shared the same code.
SM1=TB2=Gecko 1.8.x SM2=TB3=Gecko 1.9.x Even though they share, much of what's different is in the UI (e.g. buttons). -- "The Scriptures tell us righteousness exalteth a Nation." 2nd U.S. President, John Adams Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2009-09-06 at 22:58 +0200, Robert Kaiser wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
What would be useful is a button to select compose or reply or forward a single email in html mode, which is a thing I very seldom do - but I needed to, to run a test.
<tongue-in-cheek>SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 2 has that dropdown select on the "Compose" toolbar button to allow exactly that.</tongue-in-cheek>
Curious! I thought they shared the same code.
We share the backend code, but not (all of) the frontend and UI code. SeaMonkey is generally a bit more conservative in UI changes and less dumbed down, our target audience is more advanced users, contrary to Firefox and Thunderbird, which are primarily targeting beginners and less technically advanced people (i.e. "the masses"). Robert Kaiser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 09/06/2009 05:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Another one.
I want to compose a new email in html format. How? I don't see the option anywhere, it is plain text. I don't see anywhere the tools to change formatting, and the "format" entry in the options menu is missing.
I Found out that there is no way to select compose a single email in html.
The method is in account preferences, compose section, enable the box for html compsing, then all emails are composed in html mode. Once the compose window is opened, we can go to options, and select send as html only, plain text only, or mix. But even if send as plain text is selected the compose remains in html mode (I hope I did not made a mistake and send this in html).
What would be useful is a button to select compose or reply or forward a single email in html mode, which is a thing I very seldom do - but I needed to, to run a test.
How a message is formatted depends on what you have set in the Address Book for that particular entry. If none is set then you are asked in which of the 3 formats you want the message sent. (But I think the editor always comes up in HTML but your message - as this one from you - is sent in plain-text, if selected.) BC -- "There are none so blind as those who will not see." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2009-09-07 at 11:41 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
What would be useful is a button to select compose or reply or forward a single email in html mode, which is a thing I very seldom do - but I needed to, to run a test.
How a message is formatted depends on what you have set in the Address Book for that particular entry. If none is set then you are asked in which of the 3 formats you want the message sent.
I'm compossing new emails, without destination yet.
(But I think the editor always comes up in HTML but your message - as this one from you - is sent in plain-text, if selected.)
That's right. If html is enabled for the sending account, then you do have the choice, when you click send. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkqklG0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UAZwCcCBSfB+8svI/yubVV68n+WUuf LJ0An1i+eMJ4AOgY7OOVs+0qkbcAMVaJ =zZ13 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On Monday, 2009-09-07 at 11:41 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
What would be useful is a button to select compose or reply or forward a single email in html mode, which is a thing I very seldom do - but I needed to, to run a test.
How a message is formatted depends on what you have set in the Address Book for that particular entry. If none is set then you are asked in which of the 3 formats you want the message sent.
I'm compossing new emails, without destination yet.
(But I think the editor always comes up in HTML but your message - as this one from you - is sent in plain-text, if selected.)
That's right. If html is enabled for the sending account, then you do have the choice, when you click send.
Have you checked Edit>Preferences>Composition>General>Send Options ? BC -- "There are none so blind as those who will not see." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/07/2009 07:27 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
That's right. If html is enabled for the sending account, then you do have the choice, when you click send.
Have you checked Edit>Preferences>Composition>General>Send Options ?
It is and was set to both html and text - but this only works when the account is set to html, otherwise ignored. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2-factory) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqsN1oACgkQU92UU+smfQW69wCffBRuK6j12RHtV0PstzMVd9XX DrQAni2ZmxPGde4ACsqkH3BZhjV5ZoNU =XJRx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 09/06/2009 02:22 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 09/06/2009 05:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Another one.
I want to compose a new email in html format. How? I don't see the option anywhere, it is plain text. I don't see anywhere the tools to change formatting, and the "format" entry in the options menu is missing.
I Found out that there is no way to select compose a single email in html.
The method is in account preferences, compose section, enable the box for html compsing, then all emails are composed in html mode. Once the compose window is opened, we can go to options, and select send as html only, plain text only, or mix. But even if send as plain text is selected the compose remains in html mode (I hope I did not made a mistake and send this in html).
What would be useful is a button to select compose or reply or forward a single email in html mode, which is a thing I very seldom do - but I needed to, to run a test.
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
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It is in options > format menu -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2009-09-07 at 06:17 -0400, Dale Ritchey wrote:
It is in options > format menu
No, it is not. No such menu exists, unless you specified html in the account settings previously. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkqtgJwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Vv9wCfTk3AgRYhhNbUCMqkf4U9/ySu T54An1tCk3tpmZaLUQN7usfrlv2sy5Ex =Fc/L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am 06.09.2009 20:22, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
I want to compose a new email in html format. How? I don't see the option anywhere, it is plain text. I don't see anywhere the tools to change formatting, and the "format" entry in the options menu is missing.
I Found out that there is no way to select compose a single email in html.
The method is in account preferences, compose section, enable the box for html compsing, then all emails are composed in html mode. Once the compose window is opened, we can go to options, and select send as html only, plain text only, or mix. But even if send as plain text is selected the compose remains in html mode (I hope I did not made a mistake and send this in html).
What would be useful is a button to select compose or reply or forward a single email in html mode, which is a thing I very seldom do - but I needed to, to run a test.
Yeah, I remember that feeling ;-) When I needed that a few years ago I patched Thunderbird to provide an additional menu item to compose an HTML message explicitely. That patch was/is in the openSUSE package of Thunderbird 2. During the update to 3.0 the patch got lost (don't ask for the reason, probably my laziness to update the patch or the hope that TB3 would have a similar option now). Also note that the patch was not optimal as it was never localized and only hidden in the top menu. No real solution at the moment. If you want to provide a patch/create an extension we can talk about including it in the openSUSE package. I don't _think_ that I'll find time before 11.2 myself. (hey, I'm on vacation right now). Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 9/7/2009 at 1:58 PM, Wolfgang Rosenauer
wrote: I don't _think_ that I'll find time before 11.2 myself. (hey, I'm on vacation right now).
Being on vacation normally offers you a lot of time. No waster cycles on 'work' :) Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
participants (9)
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Basil Chupin
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Carlos E. R.
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Dale Ritchey
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Dominique Leuenberger
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Felix Miata
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houghi
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Oddball
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Robert Kaiser
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Wolfgang Rosenauer