[opensuse-factory] is it me?
I'm just wondering if it is me. I have not seen updates in a long time now and things are being released like the kernel 4.12 and Plasma among other things. Am I on the wrong repos? Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
James, On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, 18:04:00 +0200, James wrote:
I'm just wondering if it is me. I have not seen updates in a long time now and things are being released like the kernel 4.12 and Plasma among other things. Am I on the wrong repos?
it would be incredibly helpful if you would tell us which distribution you are using. In any case, the output from running the following commands in a terminal window would allow us to check: cat /etc/os-release zypper lr -E -d
Jim
Cheers. l8er manfred
it would be incredibly helpful if you would tell us which distribution you are using. In any case, the output from running the following commands in a terminal window would allow us to check:
cat /etc/os-release zypper lr -E -d
Jim
He obviously refers to Tumbleweed where I also have no updates for some days but I haven't seen also any automated email about a released snapshot. Stratos. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Manfred Hollstein:
James,
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, 18:04:00 +0200, James wrote:
I'm just wondering if it is me. I have not seen updates in a long time now and things are being released like the kernel 4.12 and Plasma among other things. Am I on the wrong repos?
it would be incredibly helpful if you would tell us which distribution you are using. In any case, the output from running the following commands in a terminal window would allow us to check:
cat /etc/os-release zypper lr -E -d
Jim
Cheers.
l8er manfred
considering i'm asking on the factory list, i was asking about tumbleweed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* James <james@insiberia.net> [07-19-17 18:26]:
Manfred Hollstein:
James,
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, 18:04:00 +0200, James wrote:
I'm just wondering if it is me. I have not seen updates in a long time now and things are being released like the kernel 4.12 and Plasma among other things. Am I on the wrong repos?
it would be incredibly helpful if you would tell us which distribution you are using. In any case, the output from running the following commands in a terminal window would allow us to check:
cat /etc/os-release zypper lr -E -d
considering i'm asking on the factory list, i was asking about tumbleweed.
honest question considering the multitude of people who do not observe our mailing list netiquette. and you still fail to provide the information requested. would make one wonder if you were really interested... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan:
considering i'm asking on the factory list, i was asking about tumbleweed.
honest question considering the multitude of people who do not observe our mailing list netiquette.
and you still fail to provide the information requested. would make one wonder if you were really interested...
I'm noticing this list is getting as abrasive as the other list. Same with the IRC. There is no reason for this at all. Your excuses are lame to me. I asked a simple question on the factory list. Only one person has given me a viable answer with genuine concern and I thanked him. I am new here but if this abrasiveness continues as the other list, I'll leave this one too. jim. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-07-20 00:25, James wrote:
Manfred Hollstein:
James,
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, 18:04:00 +0200, James wrote:
I'm just wondering if it is me. I have not seen updates in a long time now and things are being released like the kernel 4.12 and Plasma among other things. Am I on the wrong repos?
it would be incredibly helpful if you would tell us which distribution you are using. In any case, the output from running the following commands in a terminal window would allow us to check:
cat /etc/os-release zypper lr -E -d
considering i'm asking on the factory list, i was asking about tumbleweed.
No, it is not obvious, because we also talk here about Leap betas. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R.:
On 2017-07-20 00:25, James wrote:
Manfred Hollstein:
James,
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, 18:04:00 +0200, James wrote:
I'm just wondering if it is me. I have not seen updates in a long time now and things are being released like the kernel 4.12 and Plasma among other things. Am I on the wrong repos?
it would be incredibly helpful if you would tell us which distribution you are using. In any case, the output from running the following commands in a terminal window would allow us to check:
cat /etc/os-release zypper lr -E -d
considering i'm asking on the factory list, i was asking about tumbleweed.
No, it is not obvious, because we also talk here about Leap betas.
You are correct. However, I thought that common sense would point to the question I was asking about as the one gentlemen knew. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-07-20 01:08, James wrote:
Carlos E. R.:
On 2017-07-20 00:25, James wrote:
Manfred Hollstein:
James,
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, 18:04:00 +0200, James wrote:
I'm just wondering if it is me. I have not seen updates in a long time now and things are being released like the kernel 4.12 and Plasma among other things. Am I on the wrong repos?
it would be incredibly helpful if you would tell us which distribution you are using. In any case, the output from running the following commands in a terminal window would allow us to check:
cat /etc/os-release zypper lr -E -d
considering i'm asking on the factory list, i was asking about tumbleweed.
No, it is not obvious, because we also talk here about Leap betas.
You are correct. However, I thought that common sense would point to the question I was asking about as the one gentlemen knew.
Maybe only one person responded in target because the others were trying to guess what were you using or waiting for your reply to the list of repos for confirmation ;-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
You are correct. However, I thought that common sense would point to the question I was asking about as the one gentlemen knew.
Maybe only one person responded in target because the others were trying to guess what were you using or waiting for your reply to the list of repos for confirmation ;-)
all that needed to be said was that things were frozen as he said. instead, all this insulting and demeaning email. i'm done with this. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-07-20 01:23, James wrote:
You are correct. However, I thought that common sense would point to the question I was asking about as the one gentlemen knew.
Maybe only one person responded in target because the others were trying to guess what were you using or waiting for your reply to the list of repos for confirmation ;-)
all that needed to be said was that things were frozen as he said. instead, all this insulting and demeaning email. i'm done with this.
Please, please, don't get angry. We are not intending to insult you. We are trying to explain that in order to help you, we needed more info. Only one person was capable of guessing correctly. Asking questions so that people from many countries and cultures understand you correctly is not easy. Please persevere. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Op woensdag 19 juli 2017 18:04:00 CEST schreef James:
I'm just wondering if it is me. I have not seen updates in a long time now and things are being released like the kernel 4.12 and Plasma among other things. Am I on the wrong repos?
Jim
How can we tell? Then please show us those repos.. There's a lot going on re. TW, release of 42.3 is putting a lot of pressure on people and systems, and .... it's the holiday season. So, probably you're not on the wrong repos. There simply are less builds, see here https://openqa.opensuse.org Last build that passed openQA is the 12th of july one. -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 16:04 +0000, James wrote:
I'm just wondering if it is me. I have not seen updates in a long time now and things are being released like the kernel 4.12 and Plasma among other things. Am I on the wrong repos?
Jim
Hi Jim, and everybody interested, I meant to write to yuou all, but the questions started rising even earlier, so here I come with the explanation on why you have not seen a new Tumbleweed snapshot since 0712 was released: * As you certainly know, Tumbleweed is going to be the base (again) for the next, upcoming SLE15, where development has started as well, and I was asked to give the linked repository for SLE a moment to catch up, especially also for the 'slower archs' (slower by build time, like aarch64, s390x). As those archs are not generally in the main focus of TW, checkins happen usually before those archs are ready with new test ISOs, making it hard to get a view of how well/bad they perform. So starting from July 13 until July 17, I made a 'freeze' for those to catch up. In this period, we focused mainly on Stagings and we ended up with quite large ones - and impacting ones. For example, we dropped Ruby 2.2 anf Ruby 2.3, switching the entire Ruby stack to version 2.4, including YaST. This change was checked in on July 17 - but then took a long time to build (I switched to a more thorough rebuild strategy, as the change was substantial). Last night, this got us a snapshot which looks 'ok-ish' - but not good enough to release to the wild (ruby 2.2 was removed from the repos, but it was not tagged for removal from the workstations, which would have resulted in file conflict warnings on every single TW installation). So we used today to analyze how it could be that this was happening, solved the underlying issue and are currently building Snapshot 0719. This snapshot should hit openQA somewhen in the early morning hours (CEST) - and if we actually caight the right bits, we should see a release happening somewhen tomorrow. Sorry for the delay, but I am sure everybody prefers having a couple snapshots 'missed' instead of having to fix their machines afterwards. SHould there be any further questions, please feel free to ask. Cheers, Dominique
Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar:
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 16:04 +0000, James wrote:
I'm just wondering if it is me. I have not seen updates in a long time now and things are being released like the kernel 4.12 and Plasma among other things. Am I on the wrong repos?
Jim
Hi Jim, and everybody interested,
I meant to write to yuou all, but the questions started rising even earlier, so here I come with the explanation on why you have not seen a new Tumbleweed snapshot since 0712 was released:
* As you certainly know, Tumbleweed is going to be the base (again) for the next, upcoming SLE15, where development has started as well, and I was asked to give the linked repository for SLE a moment to catch up, especially also for the 'slower archs' (slower by build time, like aarch64, s390x). As those archs are not generally in the main focus of TW, checkins happen usually before those archs are ready with new test ISOs, making it hard to get a view of how well/bad they perform. So starting from July 13 until July 17, I made a 'freeze' for those to catch up.
In this period, we focused mainly on Stagings and we ended up with quite large ones - and impacting ones.
For example, we dropped Ruby 2.2 anf Ruby 2.3, switching the entire Ruby stack to version 2.4, including YaST. This change was checked in on July 17 - but then took a long time to build (I switched to a more thorough rebuild strategy, as the change was substantial). Last night, this got us a snapshot which looks 'ok-ish' - but not good enough to release to the wild (ruby 2.2 was removed from the repos, but it was not tagged for removal from the workstations, which would have resulted in file conflict warnings on every single TW installation). So we used today to analyze how it could be that this was happening, solved the underlying issue and are currently building Snapshot 0719. This snapshot should hit openQA somewhen in the early morning hours (CEST) - and if we actually caight the right bits, we should see a release happening somewhen tomorrow.
Sorry for the delay, but I am sure everybody prefers having a couple snapshots 'missed' instead of having to fix their machines afterwards.
SHould there be any further questions, please feel free to ask.
Cheers, Dominique
Thank you very much for this explanation :) Well appreciated. Jim. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op woensdag 19 juli 2017 21:58:42 CEST schreef Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar:
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 16:04 +0000, James wrote:
I'm just wondering if it is me. I have not seen updates in a long time now and things are being released like the kernel 4.12 and Plasma among other things. Am I on the wrong repos?
Jim
Hi Jim, and everybody interested,
I meant to write to yuou all, but the questions started rising even earlier, so here I come with the explanation on why you have not seen a new Tumbleweed snapshot since 0712 was released:
* As you certainly know, Tumbleweed is going to be the base (again) for the next, upcoming SLE15, where development has started as well, and I was asked to give the linked repository for SLE a moment to catch up, especially also for the 'slower archs' (slower by build time, like aarch64, s390x). As those archs are not generally in the main focus of TW, checkins happen usually before those archs are ready with new test ISOs, making it hard to get a view of how well/bad they perform. So starting from July 13 until July 17, I made a 'freeze' for those to catch up.
In this period, we focused mainly on Stagings and we ended up with quite large ones - and impacting ones.
For example, we dropped Ruby 2.2 anf Ruby 2.3, switching the entire Ruby stack to version 2.4, including YaST. This change was checked in on July 17 - but then took a long time to build (I switched to a more thorough rebuild strategy, as the change was substantial). Last night, this got us a snapshot which looks 'ok-ish' - but not good enough to release to the wild (ruby 2.2 was removed from the repos, but it was not tagged for removal from the workstations, which would have resulted in file conflict warnings on every single TW installation). So we used today to analyze how it could be that this was happening, solved the underlying issue and are currently building Snapshot 0719. This snapshot should hit openQA somewhen in the early morning hours (CEST) - and if we actually caight the right bits, we should see a release happening somewhen tomorrow.
Sorry for the delay, but I am sure everybody prefers having a couple snapshots 'missed' instead of having to fix their machines afterwards.
Rather some delay than an instable system, cheers for the info.
SHould there be any further questions, please feel free to ask.
Cheers, Dominique
-- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 21:58 +0200, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:
Hi Jim, and everybody interested,
- and if we actually caught the right bits, we should see a release happening somewhen tomorrow.
Sorry for the delay, but I am sure everybody prefers having a couple snapshots 'missed' instead of having to fix their machines afterwards.
SHould there be any further questions, please feel free to ask.
Adding to this - we did get the upgrade scenarios right, BUT: kernel 4.12 proves to be causing issues with RAID10 setups: openQA simply locks up. Progress for this issue will be tracked in https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1049599 Cheers, Dominique
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Carlos E. R. -
Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar -
James -
Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink -
Manfred Hollstein -
Patrick Shanahan -
Stratos Zolotas