Op maandag 24 juli 2017 22:54:49 CEST schreef Felix Miata :

Carlos E. R. composed on 2017-07-24 22:39 (UTC+0200):

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On 2017-07-24 19:07, Roman Bysh wrote:

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Will the final GA of 42.3 have kernel 4.4.77?

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Where did you see 4.4.77? I guess it will probably come with some update soon.

IIRC, the last kernel version in the repos prior to official release announcement day is always less than that of GM, so 4.4.77 on the official DVD would be little surprise to me.

The repos are already in maintenance state, so http://repos.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/ and 4.4.76 is the one. -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 25/07/17 07:05, Roman Bysh wrote:

On 24/07/17 05:26 PM, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:

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Op maandag 24 juli 2017 22:54:49 CEST schreef Felix Miata :

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Carlos E. R. composed on 2017-07-24 22:39 (UTC+0200):

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On 2017-07-24 19:07, Roman Bysh wrote:

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Will the final GA of 42.3 have kernel 4.4.77?

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Where did you see 4.4.77? I guess it will probably come with some update soon.

IIRC, the last kernel version in the repos prior to official release announcement day is always less than that of GM, so 4.4.77 on the official DVD would be little surprise to me.

The repos are already in maintenance state, so http://repos.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/ and 4.4.76 is the one.

Can we expect it as an update later?

You should file a bugreport on the kernel team and they will try to ensure the fix is backported to 4.4.76 if they don't plan to release 4.4.77 soon. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B

On 24/07/17 04:39 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2017-07-24 19:07, Roman Bysh wrote:

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Hi all,

I was having a terrible problem OOM problem with kernel 4.4.76 and my CPU. However, it disappeared with kernel 4.4.77.

When I deleted the bottom panel, right-clicked on the desktop and added the "Default openSUSE Panel" the plasmashell invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x14280ca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_ZERO), nodemask=0, order=0, oom_score_adj=0

After several minutes dmesg showed that I was out of memory. Ref: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1046500

This only happened with kernel 4.4.76x.

Will the final GA of 42.3 have kernel 4.4.77?

Yes, as far as I know we'll get the kernel we can get now with "zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change".

linux-vsyq:~ # uname -a Linux linux-vsyq 4.4.76-1-default #1 SMP Fri Jul 14 08:48:13 UTC 2017 (9a2885c) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux linux-vsyq:~ #

linux-vsyq:~ # rpm -q kernel* package kernel* is not installed linux-vsyq:~ # rpm -qa | grep kernel kernel-default-4.4.75-1.1.x86_64 kernel-default-4.4.76-1.1.x86_64 <====== kernel-firmware-20170530-9.1.noarch linux-vsyq:~ # linux-vsyq:~ # zypper patch Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies...

The following item is locked and will not be changed by any action: Available: plymouth

Nothing to do. linux-vsyq:~ #

Where did you see 4.4.77? I guess it will probably come with some update soon.

Here's the link: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/openSUSE-42.3/standard/ -- Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 25/07/2017 08:14, Takashi Iwai wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:07:29 +0200, Roman Bysh wrote:

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Hi all,

I was having a terrible problem OOM problem with kernel 4.4.76 and my CPU. However, it disappeared with kernel 4.4.77.

When I deleted the bottom panel, right-clicked on the desktop and added the "Default openSUSE Panel" the plasmashell invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x14280ca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_ZERO), nodemask=0, order=0, oom_score_adj=0

After several minutes dmesg showed that I was out of memory. Ref: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1046500

This only happened with kernel 4.4.76x.

Will the final GA of 42.3 have kernel 4.4.77?

The kernel version difference might be a red herring.

If you're using an old Intel graphics chip, could you try to uninstall drm-kmp-default package once, reboot and retest?

Takashi

I'm not sure what old Intel graphics relates to. I have an "Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz" and after updating to 42.3 from 42.2 I have frequent intermittent gpu hangs unless I boot with nomodeset. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1050256 Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Takashi Iwai wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 08:25:08 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:

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On 25/07/2017 08:14, Takashi Iwai wrote:

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On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:07:29 +0200, Roman Bysh wrote:

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Hi all,

I was having a terrible problem OOM problem with kernel 4.4.76 and my CPU. However, it disappeared with kernel 4.4.77.

When I deleted the bottom panel, right-clicked on the desktop and added the "Default openSUSE Panel" the plasmashell invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x14280ca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_ZERO), nodemask=0, order=0, oom_score_adj=0

After several minutes dmesg showed that I was out of memory. Ref: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1046500

This only happened with kernel 4.4.76x.

Will the final GA of 42.3 have kernel 4.4.77?

The kernel version difference might be a red herring.

If you're using an old Intel graphics chip, could you try to uninstall drm-kmp-default package once, reboot and retest?

Takashi

I'm not sure what old Intel graphics relates to. I have an "Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz" and after updating to 42.3 from 42.2 I have frequent intermittent gpu hangs unless I boot with nomodeset. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1050256

Unfortunately Intel tend to leave bugs for their old chips while developing for the newer chips. On Leap 42.3, we upgraded the kernel graphics stack to 4.9.x with a few backported fixes, but it seems problematic on some old chips.

Luckily, we did upgrade via drm-kmp, so you can easily back to Leap 42.2 state just by uninstalling drm-kmp-* package. (This was the intention by providing via kmp, too.)

So try to uninstall it and retest. If this fixes your problem, you can do "zypper al drm-kmp-default" not to install this any longer.

Mind adding this information to the release notes at https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/42.3/index.html? A pull request for the Leap_42.3 branch at https://github.com/openSUSE/release-notes-openSUSE is sufficient. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.com/ SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Dave Plater composed on 2017-07-25 08:25 (UTC+0200):

Takashi Iwai wrote:

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If you're using an old Intel graphics chip, could you try to uninstall drm-kmp-default package once, reboot and retest?

I'm not sure what old Intel graphics relates to. I have an "Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz" and after updating to 42.3 from 42.2 I have frequent intermittent gpu hangs unless I boot with nomodeset. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1050256

https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1050256 for openSUSE users ;-) Ouch! i3-2120 (8086:0102 aka Sandy Bridge) was introduced >6 years ago. I have slightly older working fine with Plasma (but only in TW: all my 42.3 use TDE or KDE3.) You could try uninstalling xf86-video-intel. That should cause Xorg to run on Xorg's integrated modesetting driver, which all my Intel machines that aren't too old for it to support are happily using. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Linux Kamarada composed on 2017-07-31 17:18 (UTC-0300): ...

Then, I uninstalled the drm-kmp-default package and rebooted. Until now (uptime = 25 minutes), no crashes with GNOME. I'm going home now, tomorrow I will watch and see if the problem has really been solved.

I'm not sure if I'm using Xorg's integrated modesetting driver because if I try to find what video driver is in use on my system (following instructions I found here: https://askubuntu.com/a/254877/560233), I retrieve the following:

# lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0412] (rev 06) Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Device [1458:d000] Kernel driver in use: i915 Kernel modules: i915

That's kernel driver in use, not Xorg driver in use. Try: $ inxi -c0 -G Graphics: Card: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller Display Server: X.Org 1.17.2 drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1920x1200@60.0hz GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Desktop GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.0.8

Am I still using the Intel driver? As I uninstalled the xf86-video-intel package, shouldn't it have been gone?

Using integrated modeset rather than xf86-video-intel you'll see something resembling the following: # grep modeset /var/log/Xorg.0.log | wc -l 258 # grep intel /var/log/Xorg.0.log | wc -l 7 The bigger wc number is indicator of the driver actually in use, while the smaller is basically saying what hardware is present. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 31/07/2017 22:18, Linux Kamarada wrote:

2017-07-25 3:45 GMT-03:00 Felix Miata :

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Dave Plater composed on 2017-07-25 08:25 (UTC+0200):

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Takashi Iwai wrote:

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If you're using an old Intel graphics chip, could you try to uninstall drm-kmp-default package once, reboot and retest?

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I'm not sure what old Intel graphics relates to. I have an "Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz" and after updating to 42.3 from 42.2 I have frequent intermittent gpu hangs unless I boot with nomodeset. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1050256

https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1050256 for openSUSE users ;-)

Ouch!

i3-2120 (8086:0102 aka Sandy Bridge) was introduced >6 years ago. I have slightly older working fine with Plasma (but only in TW: all my 42.3 use TDE or KDE3.)

You could try uninstalling xf86-video-intel. That should cause Xorg to run on Xorg's integrated modesetting driver, which all my Intel machines that aren't too old for it to support are happily using. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Today I faced the same problem at work on a machine that I just upgraded from 42.2 to 42.3.

From times to times, the window manager was crashing and restarting, until the session was finally finished and the login screen presented, making impossible to use any desktop environment (now I use GNOME, but I tried GNOME Classic and Plasma 5 and the same happened).

I have an Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz, according to YaST.

Searching the mailing list, I came to this thread.

First, I tried uninstalling the xf86-video-intel package, actually I uninstalled xf86-video-* packages, leaving only xf86-video-vesa and xf86-video-fbdev (I believe those are the generic drivers, am I right?) and then rebooted. Nothing changed: crashes still happened.

Then, I uninstalled the drm-kmp-default package and rebooted. Until now (uptime = 25 minutes), no crashes with GNOME. I'm going home now, tomorrow I will watch and see if the problem has really been solved.

I'm not sure if I'm using Xorg's integrated modesetting driver because if I try to find what video driver is in use on my system (following instructions I found here: https://askubuntu.com/a/254877/560233), I retrieve the following:

# lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0412] (rev 06) Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Device [1458:d000] Kernel driver in use: i915 Kernel modules: i915

Am I still using the Intel driver? As I uninstalled the xf86-video-intel package, shouldn't it have been gone?

Thank you in advance,

Antonio The Linux Kamarada Project http://kamarada.github.io/

Uninstalling drm-kmp-default or booting with nomodeset is a temporary work around, an updated drm-kmp-default is in the pipeline but an installation conflict has to be fixed. I also found, in my case, that the crash didn't occur in xfce. It's very memory sensitive, the less ram you have in your machine the more likely that a gpu hang occurs. You should add yourself to the bug, the more reporters the better the bug fix. Best regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:53:47 +0200, Roman Bysh wrote:

On 25/07/17 02:14 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:

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On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:07:29 +0200, Roman Bysh wrote:

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Hi all,

I was having a terrible problem OOM problem with kernel 4.4.76 and my CPU. However, it disappeared with kernel 4.4.77.

When I deleted the bottom panel, right-clicked on the desktop and added the "Default openSUSE Panel" the plasmashell invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x14280ca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_ZERO), nodemask=0, order=0, oom_score_adj=0

After several minutes dmesg showed that I was out of memory. Ref: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1046500

This only happened with kernel 4.4.76x.

Will the final GA of 42.3 have kernel 4.4.77?

The kernel version difference might be a red herring.

If you're using an old Intel graphics chip, could you try to uninstall drm-kmp-default package once, reboot and retest?

Takashi .

The Intel chip is the Q6600. It still runs fast.

It's just old, and it doesn't mean it's slow.

The driver was installed manually.

Which driver...?

The problem started when I removed the bottom panel and the added it back again

This is where plasmashell invoked the oom-killer. Happens every time.

See: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1046500

Did you try my suggestion? Takashi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 17:09:00 +0200, Roman Bysh wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:53:47 +0200, Roman Bysh wrote:

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On 25/07/17 02:14 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:

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On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:07:29 +0200, Roman Bysh wrote:

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Hi all,

I was having a terrible problem OOM problem with kernel 4.4.76 and my CPU. However, it disappeared with kernel 4.4.77.

When I deleted the bottom panel, right-clicked on the desktop and added the "Default openSUSE Panel" the plasmashell invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x14280ca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_ZERO), nodemask=0, order=0, oom_score_adj=0

After several minutes dmesg showed that I was out of memory. Ref: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1046500

This only happened with kernel 4.4.76x.

Will the final GA of 42.3 have kernel 4.4.77?

The kernel version difference might be a red herring.

If you're using an old Intel graphics chip, could you try to uninstall drm-kmp-default package once, reboot and retest?

Takashi .

The Intel chip is the Q6600. It still runs fast.

It's just old, and it doesn't mean it's slow.

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The driver was installed manually.

Which driver...? The 381.22 driver.

Ah, so you're using Nvidia driver? It's never clear from the bugzilla...

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The problem started when I removed the bottom panel and the added it back again

This is where plasmashell invoked the oom-killer. Happens every time.

See: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1046500

Did you try my suggestion?

No because it was never installed. I have tabooed the drm-kmp-default package.

OK, then forget my comments. With Nvidia driver, we can't debug such a problem, in anyway. Takashi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org