On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Daniel wrote:

Will there be a patch to update from beta 9 to rc1?

Define "patch"? You could try to use the System Update mechanism of YaST or use y2pmsh, or $package_manager and point it to the factory tree of RC1 to update from there. But we don't plan to release a lot of "patches" in terms of Online Updates. Regards Christoph

On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 01:06:09PM -0300, Daniel wrote:

I remember seeing a beta8-to-9 file on ftp that looked like a version patch. Or is there another name for that? I'll try to configure YaST now to check beta9 directory. I still can't install packages downloaded manually.

1) http://en.opensuse.org/Opensuse_mailing_list_netiquette 2) I asume you are talking about the delta-iso's. http://en.opensuse.org/Download_Instructions#Applying_Delta_ISOs houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau

On 11 Apr 2006 at 23:32, SunSunich wrote:

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 Christoph Thiel wrote:

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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Daniel wrote:

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Will there be a patch to update from beta 9 to rc1?

Define "patch"? You could try to use the System Update mechanism of YaST or use y2pmsh, or $package_manager and point it to the factory tree of RC1 to update from there. But we don't plan to release a lot of "patches" in terms of Online Updates.

Is it possible to update from OSS 10 to Factory by downloading only delta of rpms? Traffic is too expensive for me.

Hi! I'd guess the delte iso for updating 10.0 to 10.1 would be about 98% as large as the regular download, and it will consume about twice as much RAM and probably a day or two of CPU time. Maybe the cheapest solution for you is to go to a shop and buy the DVDs or CDs (maybe you know someone who will copy his/her media for you). Regards, Ulrich P.S. If still unobvious: The answer will be "No" I'm sure.

Carl-Daniel Hailfinger writes:

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Ulrich Windl schrieb:

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On 11 Apr 2006 at 23:32, SunSunich wrote:

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Is it possible to update from OSS 10 to Factory by downloading only delta of rpms? Traffic is too expensive for me.

I'd guess the delta iso for updating 10.0 to 10.1 would be about 98% as large as

I'd guess 50% or someting like that. Still quite a bit of data.

I created a deltaISO between these two files: -rw-r--r-- 1 aj suse 601M 2006-04-12 16:09 SUSE-10.0-CD-OSS-i386-RC4-CD1.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 aj suse 664M 2006-04-11 23:13 SUSE-Linux-10.1-build_913-i386-CD1.iso makedeltaiso reports: iso diff done, final compression: 67.2% and the file size: -rw-r--r-- 1 aj suse 447M 2006-04-12 16:23 delta-10.0-10.1.test IMO it's not worth putting these out, the disk usage is too large to save that bit of download time, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

"Ulrich Windl" writes:

On 12 Apr 2006 at 16:25, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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I created a deltaISO between these two files:

-rw-r--r-- 1 aj suse 601M 2006-04-12 16:09 SUSE-10.0-CD-OSS-i386-RC4-CD1.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 aj suse 664M 2006-04-11 23:13 SUSE-Linux-10.1-build_913-i386-CD1.iso

makedeltaiso reports: iso diff done, final compression: 67.2%

So there's only 32.8% new ;-)

I think the other way round: 32.8 % old ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

"Ulrich Windl" writes:

On 12 Apr 2006 at 16:47, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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"Ulrich Windl" writes:

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On 12 Apr 2006 at 16:25, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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I created a deltaISO between these two files:

-rw-r--r-- 1 aj suse 601M 2006-04-12 16:09 SUSE-10.0-CD-OSS-i386-RC4-CD1.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 aj suse 664M 2006-04-11 23:13 SUSE-Linux-10.1-build_913-i386-CD1.iso

makedeltaiso reports: iso diff done, final compression: 67.2%

So there's only 32.8% new ;-)

I think the other way round: 32.8 % old ;-)

So what's the size of the delta.iso? For gzip, 99% compression means a very tiny output file.

Read my original email again: -rw-r--r-- 1 aj suse 447M 2006-04-12 16:23 delta-10.0-10.1.test Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Am Tuesday 11 April 2006 21:32 schrieb SunSunich:

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 Christoph Thiel wrote:

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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Daniel wrote:

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Will there be a patch to update from beta 9 to rc1?

Define "patch"? You could try to use the System Update mechanism of YaST or use y2pmsh, or $package_manager and point it to the factory tree of RC1 to update from there. But we don't plan to release a lot of "patches" in terms of Online Updates.

Is it possible to update from OSS 10 to Factory by downloading only delta of rpms? Traffic is too expensive for me. Thanks.

The only way is using drpmsync. But this means that you need a full sync of the factory tree first. Afterwards drpmsync does only transfer deltas. Look for drpmsync in the wiki for details. bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: adrian@suse.de

On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 08:24:12PM +0400, SunSunich wrote:

Yes, this is exactly what i want! but is it possible to use drpmsync for sync of separate rpm only? I mean, may be it is possible to create a view of a package tree, that will include the package i need, and then use it for update? or for example i can just tell drpmsync what packages I need exactly in order not to sync the whole factory tree?

Unfortunately not yet. But I hope in the very near future... Cheers, Michael. -- Michael Schroeder mls@suse.de main(_){while(_=~getchar())putchar(~_-1/(~(_|32)/13*2-11)*13);}

On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 10:57:17PM +0400, SunSunich wrote:

В сообщении от 12 апреля 2006 20:37 Michael Schroeder написал(a):

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On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 08:24:12PM +0400, SunSunich wrote:

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Yes, this is exactly what i want! but is it possible to use drpmsync for sync of separate rpm only? I mean, may be it is possible to create a view of a package tree, that will include the package i need, and then use it for update? or for example i can just tell drpmsync what packages I need exactly in order not to sync the whole factory tree?

Unfortunately not yet. But I hope in the very near future...

Is it problem of the client (drpmsync) or server side? And where i can find information about development process and future plans for drpmsync?

Not implemented on the client side. In the meantime you might try http://pi3.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/~schiele/mydrpmsync/ if you like. Robert -- Robert Schiele Tel.: +49-621-181-2214 Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:rschiele@uni-mannheim.de "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur."