All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting Meeting is hosted here https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting ## Attendees Sarah, guillaumeg, rbrown, lkocman, dleuenberger, ddemaio,maxlin, Adrian, Marcus ## Leap A new build in openQA bit better than yesterday, still some work needed on publishing (update repos for backports missing etc). NET images missing for non-aarch64 arches (raised to Adrian and Autobuild) get-o-o setup for 15.4 https://github.com/openSUSE/get-o-o/pull/65 armv7 tasks are still missing in Release Checklist for Leap 15.4 https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/blob/master/Alpha.md https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/22 Further ping pong with cisco Donation of VMDP drivers https://en.opensuse.org/Donation:Software No further feedback on Factory nor wiki/talk feature https://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Talk:Donation:Software&action=histor... Unless somebody responds till Friday (in two days). The process is consideredd final. Question regarding 15.4: Half of the requests are in status 'SLE accept pending'. How do we progress/continue? Ah yes, we have to go throught all features and make sure they're up2date. Will cover this part week. Cleanup of SLE-Accept-Pending (will continue through this week). ## openSUSE Tumbleweed * Tumbleweed has been rolling full steam ahead for the last week (daily snapshots) * Kernel 5.15.5 * Upcoming change: /bin/sh won't be update-alternative managed anymore, but will be handled by drop-in packages like bash-sh (/bin/sh links to bash), busybox-sh, and possibly more to come. Scheduled for Snapshot 1201 * Maintainers are discussing to move to PHP 8.0 (7.x is going EOL, 8.1 not yet ready) * KDE Plasma 5.23.4 scheduled for the upcoming days * GNOME 41.2 scheduled for the next week(s) * Tumbleweed will change suse_version to 1599 (from 1550) to 'move out of the way' of SLE15SP5/Leap 15.5 (internal config files conflcting) ## Richard (Kubic/TW MicroOS) Adding nerdctl/rootlesskit/buildkit stack (aka the containerd-without Docker-stack) to Factory Investigating adding nerdctl support to Toolbox Investigating buildkit and its limits as a container builder working on a tool to convert existing Tumbleweed (and maybe also Leap) systems to MicroOS and/or MicroOS Desktop ## Max * 15.4 after a while we have new builds moved into openqa. Current build contains a lot of fixes. we need to make a proper setup for update test, ie. backports update and sle update on d.o.o, otherwise zypper ref complains about missing repos. * we did set %skip_python2 1 and %_without_python2 1 in Backports prjconf * some python package can not just update to Factory version for disabling python2 build, because of new dependencies and other reasons, so there is openSUSE:Backports:SLE-15-SP4:FactoryFork project for those packages, just patched those packages to python3 only * still struggling with dropping python2 RPMs from mediums and ftp- tree, needs to find a proper way to do that * 15.4: some build failures we need to find owners (cilium, envoy, protoc, etc.), send mail to package maintainer lkocman: I've sent call for maintainership of AI/ML stack recently, perhaps we could extend the call. Otherwise packages would be dropped by 15.4 Beta https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/35 * https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/kubic@lists.opensuse.org/thread/QCQ... From TW, most of those are dropped (unmaintainable) * opensuse-welcome didn't display on GNOME bsc#1190288 * Somewhat https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/15.3/release.not... is missing, switch to Tumbleweed's release-notes.rpm for the time being in Leap's medium, otherwise the shortcut setup in Response from docs team Ftr, this is what we have: ~/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/15.3> ll *rpm; echo; md5sum *rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 relsync users 2383380 Oct 27 06:00 release-notes-openSUSE- L153.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 relsync users 2383380 Oct 27 06:00 release-notes.rpm eed1c78226061a57d7004ecead765c46 release-notes-openSUSE-L153.rpm eed1c78226061a57d7004ecead765c46 release-notes.rpm installer will be changed then broke openQA testing lkocman: I'll check on this with docs team, also for 15.4 ## Guillaume - Arm Tumbleweed: * Rolling, no blocker * Sporadic BTRFS bug: upstream fix is in Factory with kernel 5.15.5 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1160604 * Hyper-V support in Tumbleweed since snapshot 20211125 (kernel 5.15). Any volunteer to test it on Windows-on-Arm machines? lkocman: downloading 20211128, will test on the surface pro xg Leap 15.4: * No Arm specific update ## Sarah - s390x * one successful Tumbleweed release * Tumbleweed release not rolling because of compiler bug in PostgreSQL (bug forwarded to IBM) https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1190740 * Leap 15.3/15.4: Test issue based on former SLE bug in Yast: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/81685 .Net is enabled for IBM Z by IBM. It is available for RHEL. Sarah will go in contact to Microsoft because of the possibility to create a s390x repo for openSUSE. s390x kernel issue seems to be looked at https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1192454 (should be under a public product SP3). ## Doug * metrics.o.o * Work: OSRT Access, OSRT Dashboard (partly), OSRT History, OSRT Release (partly) * Not working: OSRT Comparison, OSRT openQA, OSRT Review, OSRT Staging * maintainer aware , but could use help https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-tools/tree/master/metrics * open source firmware conference * Asked mstrigl about handing over jitsi instance to heroes infra * New wellbeing survey made at community meetings is avaiable * FOSDEM - no reply yet from sponsors@fosdem.org * openSUSE Conference (02.06 - 04.06) - waiting on contract from Z-Bau devconf.cz - status update? openSUSE Meetup was approved ## Dirk Not available - Cloud:OpenStack:Factory update, had > 100 devel:languages:python updates to get into factory as prepration - Nothing done regarding arm ports this week ## Gerald / Board Not available ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling Not available python2 removal from openSUSE:Backports-15-SP4 (raised by Marcus M.) project config tweak of macros (python2 packages are still trying to get build) we can probably disable it individually Marcus: could this be some export filter or so that filters them out? DimStar: do we use python-macros packages? Very often if you change that you have to do deep inspect or OBS will not re-evaluate macros properly. In TW we have a serial number macro that forces re-eval. Dirk: prjconf macros without_python2 1 ## Maintenance team (Marina or Marcus, Maurizio (m4u)) No news We will most likely need to ping maintenance team prior making the QU media (QU1 was published last week). Just to make sure that we won't miss a upcoming fix that could affect the install media. Display status of SLES updates to community (https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/30). Marina: small step, still internal discussion ongoing. Marcus: we will need to add llvm12 to Leap 15.3 - chromium doesn't build with older versions. ## Adrian - openSUSE Step Heads up: native git support for OBS will be announced. No such package should get into any of openSUSE distributions. Maintenance process and many others will not work for these packages. Please cosider this being a playground. Doug: is there a changelog? Adrian: there is a chance that we have the changelog Adrian: not a proper setup in a way that would provide sufficient data to Doug. Raised concern about Backports 15 SP4 builds never finishing. Adrian will look into it.