[opensuse-factory] What's happenin in Tumbleweed these days?
Dear Tumbleweed users and hackers, Tumbleweed is constantly getting updates, just as you expect it to be. Among the bigger updates in the last couple days you have probably seen: * Linux Kernel 3.19.0 * Mozilla Firefox 36 & Thunderbird 31.5 * CUPS 2.0 Of course many other packages, which have more or less visible impact, but make your system what it is, have also been updated, but listing them all is beyond reasonable (you can always consult the Changes.*.txt at http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/iso/ ) What can you expect in the near future? * systemd 219! Many have been wondering why openSUSE has been stuck at system 210 (with a LOT of backported fixes) instead of leaping forward. The brave contributors bit the bullet and made it happen. It passed the first openQA steps (staging areas) but unfortunately did not (yet) make it through the full openQA suite. As soon as all the identified issues are fixed (next QA run happening shortly), the package will be integrated into the next snapshot. A bit further down the horizon are topics like GCC5 (still a lot of work happening, to ensure the full distribution builds) and also XFCE 4.12 has 'just been submitted' a couple hours ago. We'll keep you posted about more thins to happen. If there is anything you are MISSING in the repositories (be it new packages or just updates): it's always a good way to get started with contributions. As a rule of thumb: if you can install it from source, you can package it. -- Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger <dimstar@opensuse.org>
On Friday 2015-03-06 14:55, Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
A bit further down the horizon are topics like GCC5 (still a lot of work happening, to ensure the full distribution builds)
So, what happened to gcc49? We have it in TW, but it is not the default compiler, either. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 15:52 +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Friday 2015-03-06 14:55, Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
A bit further down the horizon are topics like GCC5 (still a lot of work happening, to ensure the full distribution builds)
So, what happened to gcc49? We have it in TW, but it is not the default compiler, either.
Indeed, gcc 4.9 was never switched to be the default; but with gcc 5 that close: is it worth the effort to even attempt this NOW? -- Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger <dimstar@opensuse.org>
On Fri, 6 Mar 2015, Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 15:52 +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Friday 2015-03-06 14:55, Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
A bit further down the horizon are topics like GCC5 (still a lot of work happening, to ensure the full distribution builds)
So, what happened to gcc49? We have it in TW, but it is not the default compiler, either.
Indeed, gcc 4.9 was never switched to be the default; but with gcc 5 that close: is it worth the effort to even attempt this NOW?
Of course not. I will submit a drop request for GCC 4.9 very soon. What happened with GCC 4.9 was that (like this time...) I was left alone to make the whole distro build. That's simply too much work for me without a motivation from the SLES side (and thus indirectly paid for). This time it's even harder with all the constraints implemented via the Staging machinery (and a moving target to fix). Sofar I spent two full weeks on it but not even the minimal goal (regression-free openSUSE:Factor:Staging:Gcc49) is met yet. Well. It might happen that openSUSE will stay with GCC 4.8 forever (for building packages - you still will get newer compilers from me). Richard. -- Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de> SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Felix Imendoerffer, Jane Smithard, Jennifer Guild, Dilip Upmanyu, Graham Norton HRB 21284 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2015-03-09 at 12:17 +0100, Richard Biener wrote:
On Fri, 6 Mar 2015, Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 15:52 +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Friday 2015-03-06 14:55, Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
A bit further down the horizon are topics like GCC5 (still a lot of work happening, to ensure the full distribution builds)
So, what happened to gcc49? We have it in TW, but it is not the default compiler, either.
Indeed, gcc 4.9 was never switched to be the default; but with gcc 5 that close: is it worth the effort to even attempt this NOW?
Of course not. I will submit a drop request for GCC 4.9 very soon. What happened with GCC 4.9 was that (like this time...) I was left alone to make the whole distro build. That's simply too much work for me without a motivation from the SLES side (and thus indirectly paid for). This time it's even harder with all the constraints implemented via the Staging machinery (and a moving target to fix).
Sofar I spent two full weeks on it but not even the minimal goal (regression-free openSUSE:Factor:Staging:Gcc49) is met yet.
Well. It might happen that openSUSE will stay with GCC 4.8 forever (for building packages - you still will get newer compilers from me).
Richard.
Richard, Thanks for your hard work done on this! Maybe it can help to rally people if you give once-in-a-while updates of progress, what are the blockers and where people can help? There are a lot of bright heads in this community, but like so many smart men in the world, they are working completely chaotic and if not reminded of the issue over and over, they forget about it. Cheers -- Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger <dimstar@opensuse.org>
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