[opensuse-factory] Firefox is hanging after cert-problems
Sichere Verbindung fehlgeschlagen After opening an webpage that is using an self-generated cert firefox shows an alert because of the invalide cert. That is ok. The problem is that there no way to continue. Firefox shows the following page and that is all. the whole messages webmail.name.de verwendet ein ungültiges Sicherheitszertifikat. Das Zertifikat gilt nur für server.name.de. (Fehlercode: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) * Das könnte ein Problem mit der Konfiguartion des Servers sein, oder jemand will sich als dieser Server ausgeben. * Wenn Sie mit diesem Server in der Vergangenheit erfolgreich Verbindungen herstellen konnten, ist der Fehler eventuell nur vorübergehend, und Sie können es später nochmals versuchen. Oder Sie können eine Ausnahme hinzufügen… Sie sollten keine Ausnahme hinzufügen, wenn Sie nicht absolutes Vertrauen in die Sicherheit Ihrer aktuellen Verbindung haben oder wenn Sie bisher keine Warnung für diesen Server erhalten haben --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Ralf Prengel wrote:
Oder Sie können eine Ausnahme hinzufügen…
Try to click that link and add an exception ;-) This is _no_ bug, this is intentional behavior of the new 1.9 version of the Gecko rendering engine used by Firefox 3, SeaMonkey 2 and others. And it's surely no openSUSE-specific thing, we've had lots of discussions in the Mozilla project before openSUSE even did see anything of that. Robert Kaiser --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Robert Kaiser schrieb:
Ralf Prengel wrote:
Oder Sie können eine Ausnahme hinzufügen…
Try to click that link and add an exception ;-)
This is _no_ bug, this is intentional behavior of the new 1.9 version of the Gecko rendering engine used by Firefox 3, SeaMonkey 2 and others.
And it's surely no openSUSE-specific thing, we've had lots of discussions in the Mozilla project before openSUSE even did see anything of that.
Robert Kaiser
I used the link but nothing happens ;-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Ralf Prengel wrote:
Robert Kaiser schrieb:
Ralf Prengel wrote:
Oder Sie können eine Ausnahme hinzufügen…
Try to click that link and add an exception ;-)
This is _no_ bug, this is intentional behavior of the new 1.9 version of the Gecko rendering engine used by Firefox 3, SeaMonkey 2 and others.
And it's surely no openSUSE-specific thing, we've had lots of discussions in the Mozilla project before openSUSE even did see anything of that.
Robert Kaiser
I used the link but nothing happens ;-)
Clicking the link should turn up two buttons in a highlighted area, of of which is for actually adding the exception, turning up a dialog to do that. This is a solution that needs everyone to really think about what (s)he's doing and doesn't allow straight click-through as with older versions. Click-through solutions are generally quite a bad idea for security errors (and yes, self-signed certs should trigger such an error as they are in fact not secure). Robert Kaiser --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Robert Kaiser schrieb:
Clicking the link should turn up two buttons in a highlighted area, of of which is for actually adding the exception, turning up a dialog to do that. This is a solution that needs everyone to really think about what (s)he's doing and doesn't allow straight click-through as with older versions. Click-through solutions are generally quite a bad idea for security errors (and yes, self-signed certs should trigger such an error as they are in fact not secure).
The 2 buttons appear but that is all. Firefox still stays in this page. No way to step forward or back. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Ralf Prengel wrote:
Robert Kaiser schrieb:
Clicking the link should turn up two buttons in a highlighted area, of of which is for actually adding the exception, turning up a dialog to do that. This is a solution that needs everyone to really think about what (s)he's doing and doesn't allow straight click-through as with older versions. Click-through solutions are generally quite a bad idea for security errors (and yes, self-signed certs should trigger such an error as they are in fact not secure).
The 2 buttons appear but that is all. Firefox still stays in this page. No way to step forward or back.
Have you actually clicked the (right) button that brings up the dialog and followed it far enough along that you did add an exception? Robert Kaiser --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Robert Kaiser schrieb:
Ralf Prengel wrote:
Robert Kaiser schrieb:
Clicking the link should turn up two buttons in a highlighted area, of of which is for actually adding the exception, turning up a dialog to do that. This is a solution that needs everyone to really think about what (s)he's doing and doesn't allow straight click-through as with older versions. Click-through solutions are generally quite a bad idea for security errors (and yes, self-signed certs should trigger such an error as they are in fact not secure).
The 2 buttons appear but that is all. Firefox still stays in this page. No way to step forward or back.
Have you actually clicked the (right) button that brings up the dialog and followed it far enough along that you did add an exception?
Yes, no dialog appears. Ralf Prengel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Ralf Prengel wrote:
Robert Kaiser schrieb:
Ralf Prengel wrote:
Robert Kaiser schrieb:
Clicking the link should turn up two buttons in a highlighted area, of of which is for actually adding the exception, turning up a dialog to do that. This is a solution that needs everyone to really think about what (s)he's doing and doesn't allow straight click-through as with older versions. Click-through solutions are generally quite a bad idea for security errors (and yes, self-signed certs should trigger such an error as they are in fact not secure).
The 2 buttons appear but that is all. Firefox still stays in this page. No way to step forward or back.
Have you actually clicked the (right) button that brings up the dialog and followed it far enough along that you did add an exception?
Yes,
no dialog appears.
Now _that_ sounds like a bug :( The question is if this is because of your settings/profile, or if it's specific to openSUSE's version of Firefox or if it's in the upstream Mozilla code... My (upstream) SeaMonkey (using the same Gecko code as Firefox) works fine for this. Robert Kaiser --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Robert Kaiser schrieb:
Ralf Prengel wrote:
Robert Kaiser schrieb:
Ralf Prengel wrote:
Robert Kaiser schrieb:
Clicking the link should turn up two buttons in a highlighted area, of of which is for actually adding the exception, turning up a dialog to do that. This is a solution that needs everyone to really think about what (s)he's doing and doesn't allow straight click-through as with older versions. Click-through solutions are generally quite a bad idea for security errors (and yes, self-signed certs should trigger such an error as they are in fact not secure).
The 2 buttons appear but that is all. Firefox still stays in this page. No way to step forward or back.
Have you actually clicked the (right) button that brings up the dialog and followed it far enough along that you did add an exception? Yes,
no dialog appears.
Now _that_ sounds like a bug :(
The question is if this is because of your settings/profile, or if it's specific to openSUSE's version of Firefox or if it's in the upstream Mozilla code...
My (upstream) SeaMonkey (using the same Gecko code as Firefox) works fine for this.
More Problems: No Back-Button when surfing for example www.spiegel.de after readimg some articles. All Buttons are greyed. Only the home-button is working. Firefox 3.05b Ralf Prengel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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Robert Kaiser schrieb:
Ralf Prengel wrote:
Robert Kaiser schrieb:
Ralf Prengel wrote:
Robert Kaiser schrieb:
Clicking the link should turn up two buttons in a highlighted area, of of which is for actually adding the exception, turning up a dialog to do that. This is a solution that needs everyone to really think about what (s)he's doing and doesn't allow straight click-through as with older versions. Click-through solutions are generally quite a bad idea for security errors (and yes, self-signed certs should trigger such an error as they are in fact not secure).
The 2 buttons appear but that is all. Firefox still stays in this page. No way to step forward or back.
Have you actually clicked the (right) button that brings up the dialog and followed it far enough along that you did add an exception? Yes,
no dialog appears.
Now _that_ sounds like a bug :(
The question is if this is because of your settings/profile, or if it's specific to openSUSE's version of Firefox or if it's in the upstream Mozilla code...
My (upstream) SeaMonkey (using the same Gecko code as Firefox) works fine for this.
More Problems: No Back-Button when surfing for example www.spiegel.de after readimg some articles. All Buttons are greyed. Only the home-button is working.
Firefox 3.05b
Ralf Prengel
Are you sure it didn't just open multiple windows? Some of the sites I visit does that when I click on a link. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Ken Schneider schrieb:
More Problems: No Back-Button when surfing for example www.spiegel.de after readimg some articles. All Buttons are greyed. Only the home-button is working.
Firefox 3.05b
Ralf Prengel
Are you sure it didn't just open multiple windows? Some of the sites I visit does that when I click on a link.
Absolutely sure. No more tabs and no more windows. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Ralf Prengel wrote:
Ken Schneider schrieb:
More Problems: No Back-Button when surfing for example www.spiegel.de after readimg some articles. All Buttons are greyed. Only the home-button is working.
Firefox 3.05b
Ralf Prengel
Are you sure it didn't just open multiple windows? Some of the sites I visit does that when I click on a link.
Absolutely sure. No more tabs and no more windows.
I'm wondering if - removing MozillaFirefox - rm -rf /usr/lib/firefox - installing MozillaFirefox fixes the issues? There are some signs that upgrading from 2 to 3 is problematic. Have you already tried with another test user (clean profile)? Wolfgang --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Rosenauer schrieb: the issues?
There are some signs that upgrading from 2 to 3 is problematic.
Have you already tried with another test user (clean profile)?
Nope I will test this today Ralf Prengel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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Ken Schneider
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Ralf Prengel
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Robert Kaiser
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Wolfgang Rosenauer