[opensuse-factory] Updates applet for GNOME
Hello, in the last status meeting Andreas announced that ZMD won't be installed by default in OpenSUSE 10.3. This means that the current version of zen-updater won't be used as the default update applet. As a consequence, GNOME would be without a dedicated applet for updates, while KDE will use opensuse-updater. I don't think opensuse-updater is a viable solution for GNOME too, considering it doesn't integrate well in the GNOME panel (a similar problem was present in 9.3 with SuSEWatcher). What are the plans to solve this issue? Will zen-updater be modified to let the user choose between zmd/non-zmd operations (I like this one ;-)), or will a new applet be developed? Regards, Alberto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 27 January 2007 15:53, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Hello, in the last status meeting Andreas announced that ZMD won't be installed by default in OpenSUSE 10.3. This means that the current version of zen-updater won't be used as the default update applet.
Not being default doesn't mean it will be not present. So if you like it you can have it. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hi,
So but the problem is also that ZEN-Updater doesn't work very well
with openSUSE (probabily for the zmd base) so why don't make a
alternative base o ZEN-Updater (like smart or other)?
Regards,
Vincenzo
2007/1/28, Rajko M.
On Saturday 27 January 2007 15:53, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Hello, in the last status meeting Andreas announced that ZMD won't be installed by default in OpenSUSE 10.3. This means that the current version of zen-updater won't be used as the default update applet.
Not being default doesn't mean it will be not present. So if you like it you can have it.
-- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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Alberto Passalacqua escribió:
Hello, in the last status meeting Andreas announced that ZMD won't be installed by default in OpenSUSE 10.3. This means that the current version of zen-updater won't be used as the default update applet.
As a consequence, GNOME would be without a dedicated applet for updates, while KDE will use opensuse-updater.
I don't think opensuse-updater is a viable solution for GNOME too, considering it doesn't integrate well in the GNOME panel (a similar problem was present in 9.3 with SuSEWatcher).
KDE users had to deal with GNOME updater tools anyway in the past, I think GNOME users can survive pretty much fine with opensuse-updater, specially due to the fact it works. ;-)
KDE users had to deal with GNOME updater tools anyway in the past, I think GNOME users can survive pretty much fine with opensuse-updater, specially due to the fact it works. ;-)
Sorry but the problems are completely different. Zen updater properly integrates in the KDE panel and what the KDE users had to deal with was connected essentially to problems with ZMD and to the look of zen-updater, the latter partially solved through the KDE theme for GTK apps. In GNOME opensuse-updater is _not_ always captured in the panel, and it stays in an independent windows on the desktop, which is really annoying and makes it useless. Considering that opensuse-updater is written in Qt, it requires those libs to be loaded by default, which is the old and never solved problems in SuSE for GNOME users, who still have to deal with Qt/KDE apps they don't need. Moreover the look of the applet doesn't match at all with the GNOME look. Regards, Alberto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Dňa So 27. Január 2007 22:53 Alberto Passalacqua napísal:
Hello, in the last status meeting Andreas announced that ZMD won't be installed by default in OpenSUSE 10.3. This means that the current version of zen-updater won't be used as the default update applet.
As a consequence, GNOME would be without a dedicated applet for updates, while KDE will use opensuse-updater.
I don't think opensuse-updater is a viable solution for GNOME too, considering it doesn't integrate well in the GNOME panel (a similar problem was present in 9.3 with SuSEWatcher).
What are the plans to solve this issue? Will zen-updater be modified to let the user choose between zmd/non-zmd operations (I like this one ;-)), or will a new applet be developed?
Zen-updater cannot be modified that way without a complete rewrite. Thus, we are considering a developing a new applet from scratch. Stano --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Zen-updater cannot be modified that way without a complete rewrite. Thus, we are considering a developing a new applet from scratch.
Stano
Sounds good! I'm available for testing :-) Alberto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
2007/1/29, Alberto Passalacqua
Zen-updater cannot be modified that way without a complete rewrite. Thus, we are considering a developing a new applet from scratch.
Stano
Sounds good! I'm available for testing :-)
Me too
Alberto
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Alberto Passalacqua -
Cristian Rodriguez R. -
Rajko M. -
Stanislav Visnovsky -
Vincenzo Barranco