[opensuse-factory] Again: Default bittorrent client
Hello all, I think the decision to make Monsoon the default bittorrent client for 11.0 might have been a little rushed. True, it looks nice; true, its developer is very forthcoming. But it seems far from really usable: - It hogs memory like nobody's business: ATM I'm downloading the openSUSE beta 2 DVD with it and it uses 54,3 MBs RAM and 414.8(!) MBs of SWAP; CPU usage averages around 25%. This is far, far above what Transmission uses! - Once running, it won't accept torrent-files via Firefox. You have to download the torrent-file and add it to the queue manually! IMHO those two are showstoppers for Monsoon in 11.0. After they've been fixed, I wouldn't mind using Monsoon, but can this be done reliably until the release date for 11.0 final? Please let's simply get back to the working solution, i.e. Transmission and wait till Monsoon has matured. Greets, Chris --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On Sat, 3 May 2008, Christian Jäger wrote:
I think the decision to make Monsoon the default bittorrent client for 11.0 might have been a little rushed.
True, it looks nice; true, its developer is very forthcoming.
But it seems far from really usable:
- It hogs memory like nobody's business: ATM I'm downloading the openSUSE beta 2 DVD with it and it uses 54,3 MBs RAM and 414.8(!) MBs of SWAP; CPU usage averages around 25%. This is far, far above what Transmission uses! - Once running, it won't accept torrent-files via Firefox. You have to download the torrent-file and add it to the queue manually!
IMHO those two are showstoppers for Monsoon in 11.0. After they've been fixed, I wouldn't mind using Monsoon, but can this be done reliably until the release date for 11.0 final?
Please let's simply get back to the working solution, i.e. Transmission and wait till Monsoon has matured.
Until then, you can download the Beta2 DVDs "directly" from ftp5.gwdg.de. Viele Grüße Eberhard Mönkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)
Christian, On Sat, 2008-05-03 at 03:16 +0200, Christian Jäger wrote:
Hello all,
I think the decision to make Monsoon the default bittorrent client for 11.0 might have been a little rushed.
Several people tested it and this issue did not come up.
True, it looks nice; true, its developer is very forthcoming.
But it seems far from really usable:
- It hogs memory like nobody's business: ATM I'm downloading the openSUSE beta 2 DVD with it and it uses 54,3 MBs RAM and 414.8(!) MBs of SWAP; CPU usage averages around 25%. This is far, far above what Transmission uses!
Please file a bugreport against GNOME.
- Once running, it won't accept torrent-files via Firefox. You have to download the torrent-file and add it to the queue manually!
Please file a bugreport against GNOME.
IMHO those two are showstoppers for Monsoon in 11.0. After they've been fixed, I wouldn't mind using Monsoon, but can this be done reliably until the release date for 11.0 final?
It wont be fixed unless it's known so please file it in bugzilla so that it can be looked at.
Please let's simply get back to the working solution, i.e. Transmission and wait till Monsoon has matured.
AFAIK, there was no previous solution. We didn't have a default bittorrent client before.
Greets, Chris
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Am Samstag, den 03.05.2008, 09:30 +1000 schrieb Magnus Boman:
Please file a bugreport against GNOME.
Will do. I just saw the uneasy feeling confirmed tonight that I got when I witnessed how easily the young project Monsoon was adapted as the default BT client against tried-and-tested Transmission. Is the decision carved in stone, or can it be changed, yet? I must say, Monsoon has aspects that I like much better than Transmission: Its looks, the detailed information; speed is very good, too. But still, perhaps the decision about the default should be reconsidered. A BT client should mainly to its work unobtrusively in the background and not become prominent by memory-usage. (Well, unless you prefer Azureus, anyway...) Greets, Chris --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Christian, On Sat, 2008-05-03 at 03:40 +0200, Christian Jäger wrote:
Am Samstag, den 03.05.2008, 09:30 +1000 schrieb Magnus Boman:
Please file a bugreport against GNOME.
Will do. I just saw the uneasy feeling confirmed tonight that I got when I witnessed how easily the young project Monsoon was adapted as the default BT client against tried-and-tested Transmission. Is the decision carved in stone, or can it be changed, yet?
As I said, it was tested by several people before the decision was made. I don't know if you're still subscribed to the -gnome ml but that's where the discussion took place. JP asked if anyone was willing to test and suggest a default client and Monsoon was the result of that. I think we also added tranmission to Factory as a backup but not sure. If you're not happy with the decision, it'd probably be best to send an email to -gnome for that discussion. Cheers, Magnus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Le samedi 03 mai 2008, à 09:50 +1000, Magnus Boman a écrit :
Christian,
On Sat, 2008-05-03 at 03:40 +0200, Christian Jäger wrote:
Am Samstag, den 03.05.2008, 09:30 +1000 schrieb Magnus Boman:
Please file a bugreport against GNOME.
Will do. I just saw the uneasy feeling confirmed tonight that I got when I witnessed how easily the young project Monsoon was adapted as the default BT client against tried-and-tested Transmission. Is the decision carved in stone, or can it be changed, yet?
As I said, it was tested by several people before the decision was made. I don't know if you're still subscribed to the -gnome ml but that's where the discussion took place. JP asked if anyone was willing to test and suggest a default client and Monsoon was the result of that. I think we also added tranmission to Factory as a backup but not sure.
Yes we did. So it'd be easy to switch to transmission by default if we want. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2008-05-03 at 09:50 +1000, Magnus Boman wrote:
Christian,
On Sat, 2008-05-03 at 03:40 +0200, Christian Jäger wrote:
Am Samstag, den 03.05.2008, 09:30 +1000 schrieb Magnus Boman:
Please file a bugreport against GNOME.
Will do. I just saw the uneasy feeling confirmed tonight that I got when I witnessed how easily the young project Monsoon was adapted as the default BT client against tried-and-tested Transmission. Is the decision carved in stone, or can it be changed, yet?
As I said, it was tested by several people before the decision was made. I don't know if you're still subscribed to the -gnome ml but that's where the discussion took place. JP asked if anyone was willing to test and suggest a default client and Monsoon was the result of that. I think we also added tranmission to Factory as a backup but not sure. If you're not happy with the decision, it'd probably be best to send an email to -gnome for that discussion.
Andy did: http://en.opensuse.org/User:FunkyPenguin/TorrentReview and there was some consensus, especially because Alan was going to be around. Its probably best to let those two comment and Andy to re-assess where we stand. -JP -- JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> Novell, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 02 May 2008 06:16:36 pm Christian Jäger wrote:
Hello all,
I think the decision to make Monsoon the default bittorrent client for 11.0 might have been a little rushed. <snip>
I'll have to try that. I'm downloading 11b2 as I write using KTorrent. Why would the developers switch from KTorrent. IMO, it is the best torrent client - irrelevant of platform - I've ever seen. It contains the most features and does the job handily. Monotorrent appears to only be at a .3 release. -- kai www.filesite.org || www.4thedadz.com || www.perfectreign.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2008-05-03 at 10:48 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
Why would the developers switch from KTorrent. IMO, it is the best torrent client - irrelevant of platform - I've ever seen. It contains the most features and does the job handily.
Perhaps because _K_torrent is a KDE app, and this is about the default _Gnome_ bittorrent client? >:-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIHPo0tTMYHG2NR9URAkC7AKCP05brCs6s0iH6/S6RXGUHakSJkgCfRpYX RMm/jK5jWn3PYugp6PG2s2g= =XJgw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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