installation of bbswitch by default?

Hi, I noticed that bbswitch and bbswitch kernel modules seem to get installed by default, even if no bumblebee/optimus chipset is present (Tumbleweed) Whats the rationale behind? Feels more like a bug.... Cheers Axel

On 07.11.2021 20:03, Axel Braun wrote:
zypper search --recommends-pkg is your friend.
Feels more like a bug....
For any default choice there will always be someone who does not agree with this particular choice. bbswitch is about power saving so it sounds logical that it is recommends by tlp. If you do not need it, you can override it. Do you have suggestion how to reliably detect bumblebee/optimus chipset?

On 07.11.2021 20:35, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
Actually changelog is rather strange Thu Jun 17 11:59:16 UTC 2021 - Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@suse.com> - Recommend bbswitch for ThinkPad battery charge control instead of acpi-call or tp-smapi not present in the distribution. I do not see anything related to bbswitch in TLP and bbswitch to my best knowledge has nothing to do with batteries. This indeed starts sounding like a bug.

Am Sonntag, 7. November 2021, 18:35:52 CET schrieb Andrei Borzenkov:
tlp - https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/900571 brought the change
Sure. I have more laptops that dont need it, and just one whch does.
Do you have suggestion how to reliably detect bumblebee/optimus chipset?
No. Just implicit - see if prime-select is installed ;-) Cheers Axel

On Sun, Nov 07, 2021 at 07:41:48PM +0100, Axel Braun wrote:
Well, suse-prime no longer has a "Recommends" for bbswitch. I was forced to remove it. See https://github.com/openSUSE/SUSEPrime/issues/70 for more details. So I wouldn't recommend to install it on any system automatically. I suggest to open a bugreport ... Thanks, Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ---------------------------------------------------------------- (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev ----------------------------------------------------------------

On 07.11.2021 20:03, Axel Braun wrote:
zypper search --recommends-pkg is your friend.
Feels more like a bug....
For any default choice there will always be someone who does not agree with this particular choice. bbswitch is about power saving so it sounds logical that it is recommends by tlp. If you do not need it, you can override it. Do you have suggestion how to reliably detect bumblebee/optimus chipset?

On 07.11.2021 20:35, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
Actually changelog is rather strange Thu Jun 17 11:59:16 UTC 2021 - Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@suse.com> - Recommend bbswitch for ThinkPad battery charge control instead of acpi-call or tp-smapi not present in the distribution. I do not see anything related to bbswitch in TLP and bbswitch to my best knowledge has nothing to do with batteries. This indeed starts sounding like a bug.

Am Sonntag, 7. November 2021, 18:35:52 CET schrieb Andrei Borzenkov:
tlp - https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/900571 brought the change
Sure. I have more laptops that dont need it, and just one whch does.
Do you have suggestion how to reliably detect bumblebee/optimus chipset?
No. Just implicit - see if prime-select is installed ;-) Cheers Axel

On Sun, Nov 07, 2021 at 07:41:48PM +0100, Axel Braun wrote:
Well, suse-prime no longer has a "Recommends" for bbswitch. I was forced to remove it. See https://github.com/openSUSE/SUSEPrime/issues/70 for more details. So I wouldn't recommend to install it on any system automatically. I suggest to open a bugreport ... Thanks, Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ---------------------------------------------------------------- (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev ----------------------------------------------------------------
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Andrei Borzenkov
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Axel Braun
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Frank Krüger
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Stefan Dirsch