[opensuse-factory] beta2 cd-kde wants to install on runlevel 3
Just tried to install OS11.0beta2 kde from live-cd on an old PC: 800 mhz Athlon 256 Ram Geforce mx400 the installer suggests to install the new system only in runlevel 3. Is this because of low ram and old graphics or is this a bug? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Daniel Fuhrmann schreef:
Just tried to install OS11.0beta2 kde from live-cd on an old PC:
800 mhz Athlon 256 Ram Geforce mx400
the installer suggests to install the new system only in runlevel 3.
Is this because of low ram and old graphics or is this a bug?
Most likely it is only a low ram prob. Cann't you add another 256, to see if the message still comes up? -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.25.3-2-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Beta3 KDE: 4.0.4 (KDE 4.0.4 >= 20080505) "release 8.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Oddball wrote:
Daniel Fuhrmann schreef:
Just tried to install OS11.0beta2 kde from live-cd on an old PC:
800 mhz Athlon 256 Ram Geforce mx400
the installer suggests to install the new system only in runlevel 3.
Is this because of low ram and old graphics or is this a bug?
Most likely it is only a low ram prob. Cann't you add another 256, to see if the message still comes up?
Or maybe make (*) / use existing swap partition on the hard disc, once the installer is under way switch to a terminal e.g. Control-Alt-F2 and do "swapon /dev/sda1" or whatever (*) making a swap is well documented elsewhere, but in essence use fdisk to create a partition ~ 2x RAM size & of type 'swap'. Then run "mkswap /dev/sda1" or whatever to prepare it. These steps can also be done at the above stage, though if changing partition structure I'd advise to re-start the installation afterwards. If doing this, ensure partitioning in installer is NOT set to format or delete the swap partition before agreeing to 'Install'... -- Cheers Richard (MQ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 15. Mai 2008 10:36:07 schrieb Richard (MQ):
Oddball wrote:
Daniel Fuhrmann schreef:
Just tried to install OS11.0beta2 kde from live-cd on an old PC:
800 mhz Athlon 256 Ram Geforce mx400
the installer suggests to install the new system only in runlevel 3.
Is this because of low ram and old graphics or is this a bug?
Most likely it is only a low ram prob. Cann't you add another 256, to see if the message still comes up?
not tested. And I found it reported on the suse-pages. I hadn't only been my problem. Shouldn't be solved in b3.
Or maybe make (*) / use existing swap partition on the hard disc, once the installer is under way switch to a terminal e.g. Control-Alt-F2 and do "swapon /dev/sda1" or whatever
(*) making a swap is well documented elsewhere, but in essence use fdisk to create a partition ~ 2x RAM size & of type 'swap'. Then run "mkswap /dev/sda1" or whatever to prepare it. These steps can also be done at the above stage, though if changing partition structure I'd advise to re-start the installation afterwards.
Thanks, I knew this.
If doing this, ensure partitioning in installer is NOT set to format or delete the swap partition before agreeing to 'Install'...
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On Thu, 15 May 2008, Richard (MQ) wrote:
(*) making a swap is well documented elsewhere, but in essence use fdisk to create a partition ~ 2x RAM size & of type 'swap'.
Twice the size of RAM was common a rule of thumb a decade or so ago; these days we recommend at most the size of RAM. Gerald -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer E gp@novell.com SUSE Linux Products GmbH Director Inbound Product Mgmt T +49(911)74053-0 HRB 16746 (AG Nuremberg) openSUSE/SUSE Linux Enterprise F +49(911)74053-483 GF: Markus Rex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2008-05-17 at 13:11 +0200, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2008, Richard (MQ) wrote:
(*) making a swap is well documented elsewhere, but in essence use fdisk to create a partition ~ 2x RAM size & of type 'swap'.
Twice the size of RAM was common a rule of thumb a decade or so ago; these days we recommend at most the size of RAM.
Wouldn't it rather be a bit over the size of the RAM, to ensure it can hibernate? It's not easy to calculate the space needed for reliable s2disk, it is a guess (till it is actually hibernated each time, of course) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFILsHqtTMYHG2NR9URAsjAAJ4rP+ZaFGUPRs9wOGRC4xMkobrbDwCgkr3Q Ak7YwyNDOiL0lJPmp//lo2M= =2ou4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2008, Richard (MQ) wrote:
(*) making a swap is well documented elsewhere, but in essence use fdisk to create a partition ~ 2x RAM size & of type 'swap'.
Twice the size of RAM was common a rule of thumb a decade or so ago; these days we recommend at most the size of RAM.
Without wanting to get into a flame war, I'd quite agree that 1x is sensible on 'normal' systems with plenty of RAM. However, we're talking here specifically about a machine sporting 'only' 256M. I do a lot of installations on such low-end kit and would generally use 2x, I also often see (on such systems) swap usage > 50%, which I feel justifies it. -- Cheers Richard (MQ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-05-18 at 17:57 +0100, Richard (MQ) wrote:
Twice the size of RAM was common a rule of thumb a decade or so ago; these days we recommend at most the size of RAM.
Without wanting to get into a flame war, I'd quite agree that 1x is sensible on 'normal' systems with plenty of RAM. However, we're talking here specifically about a machine sporting 'only' 256M. I do a lot of installations on such low-end kit and would generally use 2x, I also often see (on such systems) swap usage > 50%, which I feel justifies it.
Then you can put as much swap as you want, without the slightest qualm. I have a system with 32 MiB of ram and about a GiB of swap O:-) The 2x size was typical of Windows 3.X because it was simply the maximum it tolerated, more was ignored. So it became the rule of thumb. In Linux there is no such limit. Of course, it will work faster with that much in ram rather than in swap, but when there isn't, there isn't. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIMH4stTMYHG2NR9URAk9VAJ4lewSUXyuJ+WNkYm86HVj3Ga83FgCePmAv Sb2sbIWLucgdKPY9j2cBCnY= =M5gW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. schreef:
The Sunday 2008-05-18 at 17:57 +0100, Richard (MQ) wrote:
Twice the size of RAM was common a rule of thumb a decade or so ago; these days we recommend at most the size of RAM.
Without wanting to get into a flame war, I'd quite agree that 1x is sensible on 'normal' systems with plenty of RAM. However, we're talking here specifically about a machine sporting 'only' 256M. I do a lot of installations on such low-end kit and would generally use 2x, I also often see (on such systems) swap usage > 50%, which I feel justifies it.
Then you can put as much swap as you want, without the slightest qualm. I have a system with 32 MiB of ram and about a GiB of swap O:-)
The 2x size was typical of Windows 3.X because it was simply the maximum it tolerated, more was ignored. So it became the rule of thumb. In Linux there is no such limit.
Of course, it will work faster with that much in ram rather than in swap, but when there isn't, there isn't.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
Besides that, when hibernating it uses swap for to plant the image. If it is not big enough, it will fail... -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.25.4-2-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Beta3plus KDE: 4.0.4 (KDE 4.0.4 >= 20080505) "release 19.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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