Re: [opensuse-factory] [RFC] How about a p2p repo sharing module for Yast?
On Sunday 25 July 2010 13:09:40 you wrote:
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Richard Creighton <ricreig@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday 25 July 2010 11:03:13 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2010-07-25 16:37, Richard Creighton wrote:
On Sunday 25 July 2010 07:09:04 Carlos E. R. wrote:
Check out Dave Rankins contribution:
http://www.3111skyline.com/download/openSUSE/pkgmanage/pkgmanage.tar.b z2
Works great and using cron or other method, you can automate it completely. He put a lot of thought and effort into this package and it is well documented and allows all your issues to be addressed across multiple machines and versions including simultaneous updates. He deserves many thanks.
I think I have seen it. Creating a local repo?
Well, this is a different idea. There are many ways to skin a cat, as the saying goes :-)
Possibly the biggest advantage of this is that it contains every file you will ever need to reconstruct your system(s) even AFTER end of support from official repositories, like the recent demise of 11.0 and earlier, 10.3 which just 'dissapeared' leaving people with older hardware somewhat out in the cold if they lost a drive containing their OS and needed to rebuild it.
Richard, are you familiar with:
http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/discontinued/distribution/
It goes back to 10.2, which I think has been out of support for a 2 or 3 years now.
Greg
Yes Greg, thank you...I am but there is one limitation to this source...it doesn't include much, if anything from places like Packman, VLC and older KDE, Gnome and other packages that are lesser known but useful like Surgemail that worked with older distro versions but might not work with newer kernels or distros or might be out of business. Having Dave's solution whereby you maintain your own customized repo of installed rpms for your own unique hardware and software requirements without regard to artificial sourcing and other limiting factors is a good idea and given the likely hood that companies and organizations can suddenly go out of business or lose interest, support and their resources and their centralized repositories may suddenly disappear leaving you without recourse. Even recently, openSUSE experienced that power failure and thankfully, I had my local repo so I could continue installing my other systems including the updates that normally would have had to wait until the power failure was resolved. So for the price of a few gig that I have to download once anyway, I have a way to ensure I can recover my installation anywhere on my LAN even if O.O or Novell goes out of business or the distro is no longer supported due to 'age' or interest by the devs. Dave Rankin did a good job and gave us all a good tool and while it doesn't diminish the tool you pointed out, it gives a hedge against the day that is removed because of space or other considerations as well as being totally customized to my (or your if you use it) needs. Thanks again, Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-07-25 20:01, Richard Creighton wrote:
On Sunday 25 July 2010 13:09:40 you wrote:
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Richard Creighton <> wrote:
Richard, are you familiar with:
http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/discontinued/distribution/
It goes back to 10.2, which I think has been out of support for a 2 or 3 years now.
Greg
Yes Greg, thank you...I am but there is one limitation to this source...it doesn't include much, if anything from places like Packman, VLC and older KDE, Gnome and other packages that are lesser known but useful like Surgemail that worked with older distro versions but might not work with newer kernels or distros or might be out of business. Having Dave's solution whereby you maintain your own customized repo of installed rpms for your own unique hardware and software requirements without regard to artificial sourcing and
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download once anyway, I have a way to ensure I can recover my installation anywhere on my LAN even if O.O or Novell goes out of business or the distro is no longer supported due to 'age' or interest by the devs. Dave Rankin did a good job and gave us all a good tool and while it doesn't diminish the tool you pointed out, it gives a hedge against the day that is removed because of space or other considerations as well as being totally customized to my (or your if you use it) needs.
It is a very interesting solution. I might have had to use it, but I finally got time and managed to upgrade my remaining 11.0 machine to 11.2 (meaning changing from hdaX to sdX devices), so the pressing need disappeared - after I had already replicated oss and non-oss repos ;-) I think, anyway, that Dave method can pull the packages from the local copies in a cache system like mine, if it ever is created. Both systems can work together, they are different. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxNajIACgkQU92UU+smfQUNhwCgh28XsfYvckfqoVDLddJZxZht v9MAnjPnFSt2pngdqKNAOnaQTqU8Snri =U2s+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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