-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [opensuse-testing] A modest proposal: Make nomodeset the default for distributions Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:44:16 -0700 From: M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@borasky-research.net> Reply-To: znmeb@borasky-research.net To: opensuse-testing@opensuse.org Yeah, I think this is a good idea. 11.4 on my HP Pavilion dv4 notebook (ATI) actually ran better with the native open source driver than the proprietary ATI driver, and my new laptop (Intel i5 - integrated GPU) runs fine with both 11.4 and 12.1 with "nomodeset". Basically, I should be able to take a GNOME or a KDE LiveCD into a Staples or a Best Buy and boot it on any laptop they have and have the screen, audio, wireless and pointing device come up functional. I know that's a tall order, but I just bought an Asus U46E-BAL5 and except for a modest glitch in the touchpad (Linux thinks it's a PS/2 mouse and it's a known upstream kernel issue) it comes up with everything functional in openSUSE 11.4, Fedora and Ubuntu. On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:

Larry Finger wrote:

...

Although the KMS video drivers have improved a lot, there are still a lot of nVidia adapters for which nouveau fails to provide any useful graphics screens. For new users, the failure to boot to a meaningful display is frustrating. The problem used to affect only persons that had implemented the proprietary closed-source drivers, and their graphics failed when the kernel changed. They could be warned in advance because a lot of them came to the forums for help in getting the propriety driver installed. With KMS, people are having trouble with their initial look at an openSUSE version. I expect many decide that openSUSE is flawed and move on to other distros.

I propose two fixes/workarounds:

(1) Make the GRUB option "nomodeset" be the default for all installation media.

+1

/Per Jessen, Zürich

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