Tumbleweed - Review of the week 2022/14
Dear Tumbleweed users and hackers, Another week has gone by, and despite me claiming we won’t be using openQA anymore (hey, it was April 1st; you should know not to trust anything you read on that day), we are of course very much relying on it. Tumbleweed couldn’t possibly be as stable as it is without the help of openQA and the fabulous team developing and maintaining it. So since last Friday we have thrown a full set of 7 snapshots at openQA and received a ‘go’ back for all of them. so we pushed out 7 snapshots (0331, 0401, 0402, 0403, 0404, 0405, and 0406) The major changes included in those snapshots were: * Linux kernel 5.17.1 * KDE Plasma 5.24.4 * SQLite 3.38.2 * Mesa 22.0.1 * Pipewire 0.3.49 * openldap 2.5.9 (upgraded from 2.4.59) * dracut 056 * gcc12: it is providing the base libraries like libgcc_s1, libstdc++6, but it is not yet the default compiler. That will comea bit later * procps 4.0.0: note: a few issues have been found that could be attribute to this, like salt not being able to parse the resulting output when distributing sysctl values * autoconf 2.71: a bunch of packages fail to build now. A common thing I’d seen is gettext translation catalogs wrongly being installed to /usr/locale (instead of /usr/share/locale). Most package seem to be old and rather under-maintained (most, nost all!) * Full RelRO (-z now) has been enabled by default for all builds. Partial RelRo was enbable around the timeframe of SUSE Linux 10.1, about time to move one level up Currently, we’re testing these changes in the staging areas: * LLVM 14 * Podman 4.0.3 * Rust 1.60 * Pytest 7 * GCC 12 as default compiler Cheers, Dominique
Hi Dominique Am Freitag, 8. April 2022, 16:24:48 CEST schrieb Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar:
Currently, we’re testing these changes in the staging areas:
* LLVM 14 * Podman 4.0.3 * Rust 1.60 * Pytest 7 * GCC 12 as default compiler
What about the switch to Python 3.10? Cheers Axel
On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 19:54 +0200, Axel Braun wrote:
Hi Dominique
Am Freitag, 8. April 2022, 16:24:48 CEST schrieb Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar:
Currently, we’re testing these changes in the staging areas:
* LLVM 14 * Podman 4.0.3 * Rust 1.60 * Pytest 7 * GCC 12 as default compiler
What about the switch to Python 3.10?
Haven't seen or heard anything from the python maintainers on that topic for a while now (also no active staging in place; presumably they are working on the devel project space first). Last I know there were some low-lever blockers. Not sure if those are fixed by now. Matej: do you know anything specific there? Any ETA? cheers, Dominique
hi, Am 08.04.22 um 16:24 schrieb Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar:
The major changes included in those snapshots were:
* gcc12: it is providing the base libraries like libgcc_s1, libstdc++6, but it is not yet the default compiler. That will comea bit later
as gcc12 is not yet officially released, is it safe to update base libraries like libgcc_s1, libstdc++6 to the versions coming from gcc12? i noticed already some packages depending on this new libstdc++6, but i didn't dare to upgrade, because i am not sure if it is already safe to update to this not yet released version of the libs. -- Best Regards | Freundliche Grüße | Cordialement | Cordiali Saluti | Atenciosamente | Saludos Cordiales *DI Rainer Klier* DevOps, Research & Development
On Tue, 12 Apr 2022, Rainer Klier wrote:
hi,
Am 08.04.22 um 16:24 schrieb Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar:
The major changes included in those snapshots were:
* gcc12: it is providing the base libraries like libgcc_s1, libstdc++6, but it is not yet the default compiler. That will comea bit later
as gcc12 is not yet officially released, is it safe to update base libraries like libgcc_s1, libstdc++6 to the versions coming from gcc12?
Yes, the ABI of those is stable.
i noticed already some packages depending on this new libstdc++6, but i didn't dare to upgrade, because i am not sure if it is already safe to update to this not yet released version of the libs.
-- Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de> SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany; GF: Ivo Totev; HRB 36809 (AG Nuernberg)
Am 12.04.22 um 12:19 schrieb Richard Biener:
On Tue, 12 Apr 2022, Rainer Klier wrote:
hi,
as gcc12 is not yet officially released, is it safe to update base libraries like libgcc_s1, libstdc++6 to the versions coming from gcc12? Yes, the ABI of those is stable.
thank you very much, then i will update. -- Best Regards | Freundliche Grüße | Cordialement | Cordiali Saluti | Atenciosamente | Saludos Cordiales *DI Rainer Klier* DevOps, Research & Development
participants (4)
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Axel Braun
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Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar
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Rainer Klier
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Richard Biener