What has changed the sound. Yast2 Hardware works and KDE4 fails as a user (not tried as root yet). All that is found in Multimedia is that darn "Dummy". Phonon is off and /etc/group has the user on audio. Sound work in yast2 but the sound as kde4 comes up or down is missing Kmix only show one pop and gamix shows 5 pots -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb@comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb@arrl.net " VoIP via Skype:n5xwbg BMWMOA #:4146 Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org