[opensuse-factory] Release lifetime
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I just noticed today of another user not knowing that 12.2 was not maintained anymore. In fact, he asked why he was getting an error: Warning: Repository 'openSUSE-12.2-Update' appears to be outdated. Consider using a different mirror or server. Could we somehow have something (YaST?) warning the user when the system he is using is close to the end of its supported lifetime, or past it? There could be a package or file, part of aaa_base or openSUSE-release perhaps, or a dependency, updated just at the lifetime end, that changes a file telling YaST to warn the user. Then, if the system is switched over to evergreen, that file gets updated, and there are no more warning, till evergreen stops maintenance as well. The admin could override that file easily, if he wishes. Would this be feasible? :-) It could be a line in /etc/os-release, containing the end date. The format admits customized extensions. Then a check when yast starts, or some modules of it. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlMY30AACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XomgCgg34efVgUOXAA6LqGqvMxCc7e uxkAnA1sZTRJcClujatgnU4bgXM7c671 =46Y4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Carlos E. R. <carlos.e.r@opensuse.org> [2014-03-06 21:49]:
This is already being done through a maintenance update to release-notes-openSUSE at EOL time. E.g. for 12.2 this was https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:12.2:Update/release-notes-o... -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-06 22:36, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <> [2014-03-06 21:49]:
You
mean that you document in the release notes for a certain release, in this case 12.2, that it is not maintained any more. Well, that's fine, but people do not read docs >:-) What I suggest is something that when the user tries to start YaST, directly tells him that that the release he is running is obsolete. Some kind of obnoxious message ;-) And of course, it would have to be for 13.2 and onwards. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMY7dcACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W1NQCePFMe1fD1eCUqZCKTo1X/WonE mAUAnjDA2/AfDr55c+ASsKLu6zmAmipR =VWCl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Carlos E. R. <carlos.e.r@opensuse.org> wrote:
If you want to be obnoxious and obvious, which is kinda required for most users that never fire up yast's online update, you probably want apper to do the popping-upping. Not sure if there's support for that in apper. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com> [03-06-14 17:05]:
No, should probably be a cron job set to begin just prior to eol and be persistant and obnoxious after eol. note: many remove PackageKit/apper in favor of zypper/you/... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-03-06 23:16, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Claudio Freire <> [03-06-14 17:05]:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Carlos E. R. <> wrote:
But there is no sure way for cron to display a message. Traditionally, it would sent an email to "root", but that would not work nowdays. It could log entries in syslog at warning level. Wait! It could use "wall", that would be really obnoxious! >:-)
note: many remove PackageKit/apper in favor of zypper/you/...
True. But a message at the start of yast online update or package manager would be enough for most cases. Perhaps. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 2014-03-07 00:23, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <carlos.e.r@opensuse.org> [2014-03-06 22:51]:
The %pre scriptlet does exactly that when installing the update.
You mean that there is an update for 12.2 that displays that sort of message? Wow, nice. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-07 01:15, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 09:48:55PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
We could just enhance the above message that was printed already?
There is a message now when people try to update 12.2? I don't know if I have a 12.2 system to try it out. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMZFBQACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W6AwCdEObLEWCeDknDXgwUYEue+WW+ DR8An2mVjGFmlCO0Xk+WvOgx2WgeBZvq =5xT0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Why not just add a grub boot screen with an EOL message along with the EOL release notes? -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle) (x86_64) GNOME 3.10.2 Kernel 3.11.10-7-desktop up 12 days 20:15, 5 users, load average: 0.14, 0.18, 0.14 CPU Intel® B840@1.9GHz | GPU Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-07 02:31, Malcolm wrote:
Hi Why not just add a grub boot screen with an EOL message along with the EOL release notes?
IMHO, altering boot can be more dangerous, something could go wrong and the machine not boot. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMZKOUACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WgUwCcCimmETlJkYFF2aKTPsQJe/37 3bAAoIXUqK5kFsOwsPLkIbGq9AAHU256 =XZps -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 2014-03-07 03:03, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The initrd is regularly regenerated when lvm2, udev, and the like are updated. If a /lib/mkinitrd/scripts/boot-eolwarn.sh is added (which can just stop the splashscreen temporarily and print the EOL message, like the cryptsetup prompt would), that can't be too detrimental. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-03-07 04:36, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Friday 2014-03-07 03:03, Carlos E. R. wrote:
In my machine, when I use grub 2, the update to lvm2 crashed when os-prober tried to mount all my extended partitions. I had to kill it, and the entries to boot other systems disappeared from the boot menu. If you read on the forums, now and then you see people for which, just after a system update, the system stopped booting at all, requiring manual action, grub reinstall, whatever. Damage is often compounded by the user not knowing what to do and doing the wrong things. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On Friday, March 07, 2014 03:03:17 Carlos E. R. wrote:
Why not a small package for EOL? Have it pop up from tray every 30 min? Or EOL wallpaper:) Kind regards, Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 12:59 +0800, Jason wrote:
Something like a weeping gecko, while booting? But seriously, i've got a related question from an end-users group. (real end users, who are never/seldom installing anything, ans that we are ging to provide with a sudio-stick) In case of an EOL-package, it might be nice if it could change the repo-url towards "Evergreen".... Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday, March 07, 2014 08:26:13 Hans Witvliet wrote:
Hmm, I was aiming at something more definitive and descriptive enough for users to make the choice themselves. For the option you stated you (plural) might as well have package set the EOL wallpaper with the instructions ie stating system OS reached end of life and 'please visit <opensuse.org page> with instructions on how to change to EG repos OR repo change to next release. Kind regards, jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 15:48 +0800, Jason wrote:
Hi Jason, No, won't work. With some people within the OS-comunity we respond to a request to provide an stable alternative for people currently using XP, with no knowledge/experience to perform those elementary functions that you and i perform on a daily bases. Hence we are making a distro on a stick, and one of the questions was about the updates after 13.1 becomes eol. For all those who do updates automatically, it would be a nice feature if they could switch to evergreen without any enduser interaction. Probably a rediculous feature for 90% of seasoned linux users, but for former XP-addicts a life saver. (and for those familiar with the update-machanisms probably 10 minutes work to create such a switch-to-evergreen-update-package) hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Hans Witvliet <suse@a-domani.nl> [01-01-70 12:34]: [...]
So it would be a great enhancement to offer automagic install of a ?script? which would change a user's repos to <evergreen> when the eol notice is displayed. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Hans, On Saturday, March 08, 2014 14:40:41 Hans Witvliet wrote:
Ok, but having system behave in a non transparent way just to lower the entry bar isn't really acceptable. I even has second thoughts about the wp thing, as this could potentially upset some but it does seem to be sensible end scenario We're long past (heavy) manual labor on Linux and today it works extremely well therefore having basic training/flyer/webpage for such occasions should suffice.
Hence we are making a distro on a stick, and one of the questions was about the updates after 13.1 becomes eol.
Therefore the info landing page ie opensuse.org/EOL. Suse also has 1-click install so in case the current running version is applicable to EG it could contain 1-click install for either EG or the next version.
If it ever happens in non-transparent way as you seem to suggest, I'd be first to move on to another distribution:) Never, ever is acceptable to switch something as essential as repo list without user knowing and accepting said change by typing in admin passwd.
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On Sun, 2014-03-09 at 15:53 +0800, Jason wrote:
Yeah ok. I think i pecked too fast at the keyboard. Generally speaking, even during the normal life cycle, people have to enter the root-pwd for accepting any patches. So at EOL, if they get an pop-up with an "OK" button fo0r accepting the change (and the mandatory root-pwd) should be at one hand safe enough, and at the other hand simple enough for noobs. hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:47:59 Hans Witvliet wrote:
AFAIK updates going through Apper are automatically authorized?
Ok, I could see it popping up same as EULA where you have to accept it for pertinent package to be installed. Though, since the release is already up to date, you'd still have two options, do a dist-upgrade or continue with EG if applicable to the running version so it still leaves a lot to be desired. Kind regards, Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Samstag, 8. März 2014 schrieb Hans Witvliet:
For all those who do updates automatically, it would be a nice feature if they could switch to evergreen without any enduser interaction.
I remember some discussion that Evergreen could just use/continue the 13.1:Update repo, so users wouldn't even have to change anything in their repo setup. However, I don't remember the result of the discussion. Maybe you should ask on the Evergreen list ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Pinguine sind picklige Geeks, die sich ihren Sonnenbrand vorm Monitor holen. [Ratti] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-03-09 21:52, Christian Boltz wrote:
Yes, it was rejected. People wanting to use Evergreen must select it intentionally. And this is done intentionally :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 2014-03-07 05:59, Jason wrote:
Why not a small package for EOL? Have it pop up from tray every 30 min? Or EOL wallpaper:)
What tray, for which desktop? All of them? The tool for that is "wall" (see man page). And might not be seen on all desktops, it is designed for the terminal. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 01:34:28AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
That one: Warning: Repository 'openSUSE-12.2-Update' appears to be outdated. Consider using a different mirror or server. Could perhaps read: Warning: Repository 'openSUSE-12.2-Update' appears to be outdated. Check if this distribution or repository is still maintained, and if yes, consider using a different mirror or server. ;) Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-07 07:38, Marcus Meissner wrote:
Ah, I see. Yes, that would be better than the current one. And possibly very easy to implement Let me add to it something. First, add a line to the "/etc/os-release" file containing the estimated end of maintenance period for the release (which can then be updated to the actual date when known). The format of that file allows for customized extensions, so that should not break anything. Then zypper, yast, etc, when doing the check above, not only check for the repo been not refreshed in long time, but also compares the system date with the date read from os-release file, and if the date is past, give the appropriate warning message, when refreshing the repos. The administrator can override the warning by just removing the line in os-release, or changing it. This would not be intrusive or obnoxious for plain users of the systems, just the ones doing the administration - unless apper also does that kind of check. If the administrator then adds the Evergreen update repo (if it exists), simply by creating an update to the file the date would be pushed back and the message silenced. Once the line in os-release exists, someone can also add a new package that creates a cron job that gives a "wall", changes the wallpaper, whatever. We could call the package "obnoxious-end-of-life-warning" ;-) That would cover most of the suggestions on this thread ;-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMZjLIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X56gCgjWiTnFTcQVppb10UBgREjx2G kAwAn3/D1cpyyo6IEMd2TG4Vldt/1GjT =VDd/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 07 March 2014, Marcus Meissner wrote:
Please before you "improve" these warnings, consider a way how to disable them. For example I get these warnings every day on all our machines because we are using Evergreen-11.4. 13.1 will also get Evergreen support. So would be nice to get it fixed during 13.1 lifetime. Actually the warning is wrong. openSUSE-12.2-Update repo IS NOT outdated. It's the latest up-to-date mirror. The fact that it will not be updated anymore is a different thing. cu, Rudi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-07 12:42, Ruediger Meier wrote:
On Friday 07 March 2014, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 01:34:28AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Please before you "improve" these warnings, consider a way how to disable them.
My proposal covers that.
Yes, it would be nice, but it is a different issue. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMZse4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UcxgCeK8Od+8QfzvpIENzK1hBmrapU KWYAn0jngMDGtbIi2Bdac1rX08cZAjXT =BlSZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 10.03.2014 12:10, schrieb Stephan Kulow:
Please don't ;-) You need the old update repo still for situations where you install new packages on your system which got an update after GA but none from Evergreen. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 10 March 2014, Stephan Kulow wrote:
How you know that smart ass? You should safe your arrogant style for things you know exactly. Actually I do "zypper patch" everyday and it logs that warning everyday. But you are right, since today I have one non-11.4 system. So now it happens only on all minus one machines everday (until 13.1 will be EOL)... cu, Rudi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 10.03.2014 16:38, schrieb Ruediger Meier: trying to help. I suggest you unsubscribe yourself if you can't stand that. Greetings, Stephan -- Ma muaß weiterkämpfen, kämpfen bis zum Umfalln, a wenn die ganze Welt an Arsch offen hat, oder grad deswegn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/03/14 05:46, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Emoticons, Stephan, emoticons........ Like this one, 8-) BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-10 16:38, Ruediger Meier wrote:
Please, please, calm down. No name calling, please. Stephen surely refers to the possibility of just disabling the standard 11.4 update repo, because the situation of actually needing it should be rare. Not that the warning about the stale repo is rare. I doubt that's advisable, though. You could try disabling refresh of the update repo. As for getting the warning removed in 11.4, you know very well that's impossible. You can ask for that new feature being added to 13.2, though. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMePpkACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UgfwCfdnUAzrgyrM0u/enNP+E3i2L5 K5cAn3uQ+pmFXZJNzl/9249VcJXWwykQ =sxoS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/03/14 02:38, Ruediger Meier wrote:
Nah, nah, no need to call Stephan all that. Stephan just doesn't know when and where to used emoticons to indicate that he is "being funny" (or "playful" or "sarcastic"); the absence of any emoticons naturally leads the reader to conclude that he is a smart-arse - which, when one looks back, is woefully wrong. BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 10.03.2014 16:38, schrieb Ruediger Meier:
Oh, it's that time of year again, the time to update the mail filters.... :-)
Actually I do "zypper patch" everyday and it logs that warning everyday.
And that would work just the same if you disable the 11.4 update repo. Just if you want to install a not yet installed package which got updated after GA but not in EG (as Wolfgang stated), you will need the 11.4 update repo. -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 12 March 2014, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
In case a patch has added a new dependency then it could install that dep not-up-to-date. This happens sometimes for patches and often for updates. And it would be absolutely impractical and non-sense to disable all the repos (update-source, -debug ...) and to always enable it before doing "zypper in" ... just to avoid the warning a few but not all times. BTW disabling autorefresh does not avoid the warning neither which is maybe another bug. I'm sorry if I used too bad words but I simply got it wrong. Thought it's just another ironic help offer like "If you don't like it as is then don't use it." I know that the update repo issue itself is just a minor one. But it IS an issue and all mentioned ways to work around do not work or are non-sense. cu, Rudi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, March 13, 2014 16:01:17 Ruediger Meier wrote:
Simply to add: 1. Long time ago on Ubuntu, the update applet had small frame (or a button?) area on which "Distribution upgrade available" and you'd perform dist-upgrade. 2. Sabayon has rigo package manager and default 'landing' ui is news. Maybe apper could have landing page (or part of ui) developed to contain news? Kind regards, Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 13 of March 2014 16:01:17 Ruediger Meier wrote:
That's if you are lucky. If not, you can't install the update at all as its dependencies require newer version of the package (which is only present in the update repository). Michal Kubeček -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/03/14 22:10, Stephan Kulow wrote:
It's really a pity Stephan that you haven't learnt how to use emoticons in your replies because a "smiley" would have shown that you have a sense of "naughtiness" and humour and not appear to be a total mind-jerk :-) . BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hello! The information should also be displayed on the version's portal page, like it is done for the German version for 12.1. I also missed this fact, is it is noted for 12.2 and not noted on the english pages. See: http://de.opensuse.org/Portal:12.1 http://de.opensuse.org/Portal:12.2 http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:12.1 http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:12.2 This documents seems also not to be up to date: http://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime http://de.opensuse.org/Produktlebensdauer both should mention this mail: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/2014-01/msg00008.html Best regards, Johannes Am 06.03.2014 21:48, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
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On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 10:00:56AM +0100, Johannes Weberhofer wrote:
Adjusted that page.
That page is only editable by Wiki Sysops (WTF?) Ciao, Marcus
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participants (18)
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Basil Chupin
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Carlos E. R.
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Carlos E. R.
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Christian Boltz
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Claudio Freire
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Guido Berhoerster
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Hans Witvliet
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Jan Engelhardt
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Jason
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Johannes Weberhofer
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Malcolm
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Marcus Meissner
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Michal Kubecek
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Patrick Shanahan
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Ruediger Meier
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Stefan Seyfried
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Stephan Kulow
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Wolfgang Rosenauer