[opensuse-factory] Grub?

During the initial installation of OS 13.2 (snapshot 20140630 x86_64) when choosing boot options legacy grub is not offered, only grub2. Yet legacy grub is offered as a software package option. Why is installation of legacy grub offered if it can't be used as the boot loader? Is it finally time that I'm forced to change boot loaders and to learn a new method? I like legacy grub as it is easy to modify menu.lst but grub.cnf appears to be much more complex. Thanks, Tom -- "To be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others." - Nelson Mandela ^^ --... ...-- / -.- --. --... -.-. ..-. -.-. ^^^^ Tom Taylor KG7CFC openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default, KDE 4.11.2, AMD Phenom X4 955, GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Nvidia 337.19) 16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD FF 27.0, claws-mail 3.10.0 registered linux user 263467 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 2014-07-18 09:17 (GMT-0700) Thomas Taylor composed:
During the initial installation of OS 13.2 (snapshot 20140630 x86_64) when choosing boot options legacy grub is not offered, only grub2. Yet legacy grub is offered as a software package option.
Why is installation of legacy grub offered if it can't be used as the boot loader?
I asked on the more pointed list 6 days ago: http://lists.opensuse.org/yast-devel/2014-07/msg00030.html No responses as yet.
Is it finally time that I'm forced to change boot loaders and to learn a new method? I like legacy grub as it is easy to modify menu.lst but grub.cnf appears to be much more complex.
Upstream wants no one modifying grub.conf manually, and for good reason, since it is so much more complicated than menu.lst, and error prone manually manipulated. If you know how to use the grub> (legacy) shell, the only Grub config files needed are device.map and menu.lst, and if you know the shell, you can get by without any menu.lst any time need be. If your system is already multiboot, then you need no bootloader installed at installation time, if ever. That's how I've been doing Fedora installations since it reduced its choices to Grub2 and no bootloader. Once I have Fedora installed, I install openSUSE's Grub Legacy on it, mainly for chainloading to whenever I want to use a non-default kernel. Keeping a master bootloader configured for all kernels on all installations is an unnecessary, complicated, sticky wicket obviated by having a simple bootloader configured on each / for any optional kernels. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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