[opensuse-factory] Minutes from dist meeting 2007-07-05
* FreeNX: Use of /usr/NX This was not needed anymore since the packages could be easily fixed. In general, we want to avoid such directories since this is a violation of the FHS and therefore a product containing this package could not get LSB certified. * Handling of dropped packages: Problem: packages move to BuildService or other product, adding obsolotes makes it difficult to install these packages. Real problem: Package renames which miss one case, e.g. -32bit + devel split. We should be able to test these via solver test cases: * Generate RPM database of old product * Update to current release * Check which packages are not updated In general: The solver should say that a package has a problem and is not on new media - and then propose to remove it. QA tests Alphas eery two weeks with update from 10.2. AI: QA to report bugs and use the setting "do not delete obsolete packages" AI: talk about test case generation. AI: change the default in the control file (to "do not delete obsolete packages") AI: draft paragraph for release notes AI: play with resolver * Improve debuginfo packages Some packages need many libraries for a meaningful backtrace. Idea: Add a debug_requires macro to the rpm spec files to add custom requires which then can be used by packagers in those spec files where it makes sense. AI: implement such a macro. No decision was made on removing/splitting the sources from the debuginfo package, we keep the status quo for now. * Log files and RPM spec Problem: I would like to bring up something else. There are currently some bugreports about package not owning the logfiles the included software produces. See for instance: #280493 #280474 These were reported to cause problems with a security checker. This should not only be a problem for log files but also for pid files and other varialbe data. It would need to be handled for deinstall of packages but not for update. We decided to reject these bugs for now as invalid. Let's understand the real problem first. AI: explain the problem better so that we can search for alternative solutions Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, aj@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
* Handling of dropped packages:
Problem: packages move to BuildService or other product, adding obsolotes makes it difficult to install these packages.
Real problem: Package renames which miss one case, e.g. -32bit + devel split.
HI, Are dropped packages?:) Is a list of them? Who decides which package will be dropped? Regards --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
* Handling of dropped packages:
Problem: packages move to BuildService or other product, adding obsolotes makes it difficult to install these packages.
Real problem: Package renames which miss one case, e.g. -32bit + devel split.
HI, Are dropped packages?:) Is a list of them? We had an autogenerated list in the past, but I can not find it atm. But lately "dropped" means often: moved from Factory to some build service
Am Wednesday 11 July 2007 schrieb Andras Barna: project.
Who decides which package will be dropped? The packager of that package with quite some people having a veto right.
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participants (3)
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Andras Barna
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Andreas Jaeger
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Stephan Kulow