Request to change ( related to web page )
Hello everyone, I hope you're all having a great day! I'm excited to be a part of the SUSE community, and I'm looking forward to learning more about openSUSE. As a web developer, I'm always striving for a clean and user-friendly UI/UX. Sometimes, small details can get overlooked, especially when we're busy working on other things. With that in mind, I'd like to make a suggestion about the copyright section of the SUSE website.Currently, the copyright information is as follows:(© 2001–2021 SUSE LLC, © 2005–2021 openSUSE contributors & others. ) I think it would be great to add a script that automatically updates the year and date. This would save web developers the time and hassle of having to update it manually each year. I know it's a small thing, but I think it would make a big difference in the overall look and feel of the website. Thanks for your time, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Sincerely, Ayhem
On Mi, Mai 17 2023 at 21:29:28 -0000, Ayhem Kahri <ayhxm.kahri@gmail.com> wrote:
With that in mind, I'd like to make a suggestion about the copyright section of the SUSE website.Currently, the copyright information is as follows:(© 2001–2021 SUSE LLC, © 2005–2021 openSUSE contributors & others. ) I think it would be great to add a script that automatically updates the year and date. This would save web developers the time and hassle of having to update it manually each year.
Feel free to have a look at the https://github.com/openSUSE where most of those are developed, and update the copyright years to be updated automatically. This is also probably the wrong mailing list for this conversation, there's web@lists.opensuse.org which would fit the bill a bit more. LCP [Jake] https://lcp.world/
Can i delete the post because i couldn't find how , if so do it or change the post to web , thanks for your time
On 17/05/2023 23.50, Ayhem Kahri wrote:
Can i delete the post because i couldn't find how , if so do it or change the post to web , thanks for your time
Impossible. This is a mail list, not a web forum. That is, once the mails are sent, you can not delete them on hundreds or thousands of people's computers. -- Cheers/Saludos Carlos E. R. (testing openSUSE Leap 15.5, at Beta)
Sorry, still learning... It's the first and the last don't worry , hope you all have a great day
On Mi, Mai 17 2023 at 21:52:26 -0000, Ayhem Kahri <ayhxm.kahri@gmail.com> wrote:
Both web mailing lists inactive...
Isn't that a great indicator of how much in need of help that part of the project is, huh? LCP [Jake] https://lcp.world/
On Wednesday 2023-05-17 23:29, Ayhem Kahri wrote:
and I'm looking forward to learning more about openSUSE. [..]
As a web developer, I'm always striving for a clean and user-friendly UI/UX. Sometimes, small details can get overlooked, especially when we're busy working on other things.
With that in mind, I'd like to make a suggestion about the copyright section of the SUSE website.Currently, the copyright information is as follows:(© 2001–2021 SUSE LLC, © 2005–2021 openSUSE contributors & others.
) I think it would be great to add a script that automatically updates the year and date.
Well, then today, you can learn that it's illegal. (I'm overstating things.) The long answer, [IANAL]: Copyright notices do not indicate the current time. Copyright notices effectively indicate the time of last modification. You cannot claim copyright for a year if you have not done any change. Therefore, copyright notices must not be autoupdated based solely on the calendar year. Also, to state the obvious, changing the notice itself does not generally mean you did a change that would justify a change of the notice. Furthermore, since you bring up the topic of UX, let me tell you this: the copyright line in the footer is the *least* concern of any end-user. If anything, it counts as negative UX because that line is just clutter for users. The line only exists because the lawyers said so, therefore: unless the lawyers give new instructions, don't touch their stuff. => Do not script something that does not need scripting.
Thanks for enlightening me. Didn't know that about the copyright updating Thing... The reason for this is that copyright expires after a certain fixed number of years¹, so the year of the last significant contribution (or
Am 18.05.23 um 00:32 schrieb Ayhem Kahri: publication thereof) is what starts the clock, hence that's what the copyright notice should say. If we were to automatically update the year, we'd essentially assert a later creation/publication date, thus also claim a later expiration date than what we get by law. Just to be clear: the generation of web pages by the web server does not count as creation under copyright, it's writing the underlying source code or rather the parts that are visible in the final HTML that is relevant. If those haven't (significantly) changed since 2021, there is no reason to update the copyright notice. Aaron ¹At least when it comes to "works for hire", if not it's usually the author's death + a fixed number of years. Though even in that case, the publication date allows to deduce a lower bound for the duration of copyright protection.
On Thu, 18 May 2023 00:26:24 +0200 (CEST), Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@inai.de> wrote:
On Wednesday 2023-05-17 23:29, Ayhem Kahri wrote:
[...] With that in mind, I'd like to make a suggestion about the copyright section of the SUSE website. [...]
[...] Furthermore, since you bring up the topic of UX, let me tell you this: the copyright line in the footer is the *least* concern of any end-user. If anything, it counts as negative UX because that line is just clutter for users.
The date is useful to tell how dated (!) the information is. I wish people would put dates (copyright or last-modified) on everything. It also helps in grouping related things together. -- Robert Webb
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