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Peter Nikolic

13 Feb 2011 13 Feb '11

15:39

Hi . Right hardware Compaq Presario V5030 AMD Turion 64 1.5Gb Ram ATI video (shared memory) New install 11.4RC1 x86_64 downloaded last night several hard lockups needing me to force a restart Kmix is doing my head in how can i get away from this horrible tabbed layout where each slider is in it's own tab it wastes space and is very very clunky and amatuerish and look horrible is difficult to use I wanted to test the problem i saw mentioned about overheating on mobile broadband connections as the laptop is almost exclusively used with a mobile domgal but i coud not get the "vodafone-mobile-connect" to work on 11.4 and no network manager does not work with the vodafone dongal so it has to be the vodafone software no lockups on 11.3 and no problem with kmix or vodafone . Pete -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.7-0.7-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.5.5 (KDE 4.5.5) "release 1" 15:30 up 2 days 16:27, 4 users, load average: 0.54, 0.38, 0.28 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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Roman Bysh

13 Feb 13 Feb

21:07

On Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:39:00 AM Peter Nikolic wrote:

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Hi .

Right hardware Compaq Presario V5030 AMD Turion 64 1.5Gb Ram ATI video (shared memory)

New install 11.4RC1 x86_64 downloaded last night

several hard lockups needing me to force a restart

Kmix is doing my head in how can i get away from this horrible tabbed layout where each slider is in it's own tab it wastes space and is very very clunky and amatuerish and look horrible is difficult to use

I wanted to test the problem i saw mentioned about overheating on mobile broadband connections as the laptop is almost exclusively used with a mobile domgal but i coud not get the "vodafone-mobile-connect" to work on 11.4 and no network manager does not work with the vodafone dongal so it has to be the vodafone software

no lockups on 11.3 and no problem with kmix or vodafone .

Pete

I agree. Kmix looks like it's unfinished. Assigning a single channel per tab for the mixer controls is an absolute waste of real estate . -- Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

johnm_s2

21:45

New subject: KMix [opensuse-factory] 11.4RC1 problems

On 02/13/2011 12:07 PM, Roman Bysh wrote:

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On Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:39:00 AM Peter Nikolic wrote:

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Kmix is doing my head in how can i get away from this horrible tabbed layout where each slider is in it's own tab it wastes space and is very very clunky and amatuerish and look horrible is difficult to use

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no lockups on 11.3 and no problem with kmix or vodafone .

Pete

I agree. Kmix looks like it's unfinished.

Assigning a single channel per tab for the mixer controls is an absolute waste of real estate .

Hmmm? Mine has everything on one tab. Looks fine. KMix v3.8 here. I'm pretty sure you can create or modify the tab(s) to contain whatever channels you want. Unless i'm misunderstanding you.. -johnm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Peter Nikolic

14 Feb 14 Feb

07:37

New subject: KMix [opensuse-factory] 11.4RC1 problems

On Sunday 13 February 2011 21:45:43 johnm_s2 wrote:

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On 02/13/2011 12:07 PM, Roman Bysh wrote:

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On Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:39:00 AM Peter Nikolic wrote:

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Kmix is doing my head in how can i get away from this horrible tabbed layout where each slider is in it's own tab it wastes space and is very very clunky and amatuerish and look horrible is difficult to use

no lockups on 11.3 and no problem with kmix or vodafone .

Pete

I agree. Kmix looks like it's unfinished.

Assigning a single channel per tab for the mixer controls is an absolute waste of real estate .

Hmmm? Mine has everything on one tab. Looks fine. KMix v3.8 here.

I'm pretty sure you can create or modify the tab(s) to contain whatever channels you want. Unless i'm misunderstanding you..

-johnm

Hi Not managed to find how yet but it seems it may actually be a pulse audio effect ? why the mixer has to change it's useability just because the audio subsystem has changed i'll never know will look later and issue the death knell to pulse audio se it it behaves again . Pete. -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.7-0.7-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.5.5 (KDE 4.5.5) "release 1" 07:34 up 3 days 8:31, 4 users, load average: 0.09, 0.08, 0.03 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Will Stephenson

12:35

New subject: KMix [opensuse-factory] 11.4RC1 problems

On Monday 14 February 2011 08:37:14 Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Sunday 13 February 2011 21:45:43 johnm_s2 wrote:

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On 02/13/2011 12:07 PM, Roman Bysh wrote:

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On Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:39:00 AM Peter Nikolic wrote:

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Kmix is doing my head in how can i get away from this horrible tabbed layout where each slider is in it's own tab it wastes space and is very very clunky and amatuerish and look horrible is difficult to use

no lockups on 11.3 and no problem with kmix or vodafone .

Pete

I agree. Kmix looks like it's unfinished.

Assigning a single channel per tab for the mixer controls is an absolute waste of real estate .

Hmmm? Mine has everything on one tab. Looks fine. KMix v3.8 here.

I'm pretty sure you can create or modify the tab(s) to contain whatever channels you want. Unless i'm misunderstanding you..

-johnm

Hi

Not managed to find how yet but it seems it may actually be a pulse audio effect ? why the mixer has to change it's useability just because the audio subsystem has changed i'll never know will look later and issue the death knell to pulse audio se it it behaves again .

Yes, it's because PA has per-application mixers - consider if you had 20 apps possibly doing sound things as well as your hardware sound devices, the kmix window would be impossibly wide. And you might feel like Pete Waterman down at the studio with Jive Bunny. WIll -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Donn Washburn

13 Feb 13 Feb

23:44

On 02/13/2011 09:39 AM, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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Hi .

Right hardware Compaq Presario V5030 AMD Turion 64 1.5Gb Ram ATI video (shared memory)

New install 11.4RC1 x86_64 downloaded last night

several hard lockups needing me to force a restart

Kmix is doing my head in how can i get away from this horrible tabbed layout where each slider is in it's own tab it wastes space and is very very clunky and amatuerish and look horrible is difficult to use

I wanted to test the problem i saw mentioned about overheating on mobile broadband connections as the laptop is almost exclusively used with a mobile domgal but i coud not get the "vodafone-mobile-connect" to work on 11.4 and no network manager does not work with the vodafone dongal so it has to be the vodafone software

no lockups on 11.3 and no problem with kmix or vodafone .

Pete last nights kmix is screwed up. It shows NO pots. Nothing to adjust but the Master volume control. I am getting tired of this kind of problem.

-- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb@comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb@arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

23:50

* Donn Washburn [02-13-11 18:47]:

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last nights kmix is screwed up. It shows NO pots. Nothing to adjust but the Master volume control. I am getting tired of this kind of problem.

Then *why* are you using RC1 software? Don't you realize you are *testing*? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Donn Washburn

14 Feb 14 Feb

00:03

On 02/13/2011 05:50 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Donn Washburn [02-13-11 18:47]:

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last nights kmix is screwed up. It shows NO pots. Nothing to adjust but the Master volume control. I am getting tired of this kind of problem. Then *why* are you using RC1 software?

Don't you realize you are *testing*? Because it still showing 6 of 6 and zypper dup found it. Just for good reason I used rpm -e kmix and reinstalled it. Same version. Still bad. Sound works when KDE boots up. Yast2 also works. BUT kmix lacks pots

Michael Powell

00:41

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: 11.4RC1 problems

Donn Washburn wrote:

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On 02/13/2011 05:50 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Donn Washburn [02-13-11 18:47]:

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last nights kmix is screwed up. It shows NO pots. Nothing to adjust but the Master volume control. I am getting tired of this kind of problem. Then *why* are you using RC1 software?

Don't you realize you are *testing*? Because it still showing 6 of 6 and zypper dup found it. Just for good reason I used rpm -e kmix and reinstalled it. Same version. Still bad. Sound works when KDE boots up. Yast2 also works. BUT kmix lacks pots

First thing I did upon noticing Pulseaudio was now enabled as default was to turn it off. Bear in mind that there are two Kmixers - one 'normal' and the other a 'kmix-pulse' for use with Pulseadudio. You might want to check if you are indeed running the correct matching versions. -Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Donn Washburn

02:21

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: 11.4RC1 problems

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Donn Washburn wrote:

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On 02/13/2011 05:50 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Donn Washburn [02-13-11 18:47]:

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last nights kmix is screwed up. It shows NO pots. Nothing to adjust but the Master volume control. I am getting tired of this kind of problem. Then *why* are you using RC1 software?

Don't you realize you are *testing*? Because it still showing 6 of 6 and zypper dup found it. Just for good reason I used rpm -e kmix and reinstalled it. Same version. Still bad. Sound works when KDE boots up. Yast2 also works. BUT kmix lacks pots First thing I did upon noticing Pulseaudio was now enabled as default was to turn it off. Bear in mind that there are two Kmixers - one 'normal' and the other a 'kmix-pulse' for use with Pulseadudio. You might want to check if you are indeed running the correct matching versions.

-Mike

Thanks for the suggesion Mike and Patrick. ~> kmix-pulse If 'kmix-pulse' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup

On 02/13/2011 06:41 PM, Michael Powell wrote: the package that contains it, like this: cnf kmix-pulse and ~> which kmix /usr/bin/kmix (as a user) ~> /usr/bin/kmix ( in a xterm/knosole) grepHelper: File does not exists: "/proc/asound/card1/pcm0p/info" grepHelper: File does not exists: "/proc/asound/card1/pcm0p/info" Yet Amarok is playing just fine right now. And any YouTube is playing when called for. l /proc/asound/card1/* -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Feb 13 19:54 /proc/asound/card1/id -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Feb 13 19:54 /proc/asound/card1/midi0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Feb 13 19:54 /proc/asound/card1/oss_mixer I only see jack, esound and NVidia nforce2 and xine and gstreamer. No pulse anything via "lsmod" or "ps ax | grep pulse" ~> cnf kmix-pulse kmix-pulse: command not found (as root or a user) (as su root) -->/usr/bin/kmix (in a xterm/knosole) unnamed app(6819): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." unnamed app(6818): KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly. If I can be of help please let me know. This is 11.4 M6 of 6 -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb@comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb@arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Sid Boyce

02:35

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: 11.4RC1 problems

On 14/02/11 02:21, Donn Washburn wrote:

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Donn Washburn wrote:

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On 02/13/2011 05:50 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Donn Washburn [02-13-11 18:47]:

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last nights kmix is screwed up. It shows NO pots. Nothing to adjust but the Master volume control. I am getting tired of this kind of problem. Then *why* are you using RC1 software?

Don't you realize you are *testing*? Because it still showing 6 of 6 and zypper dup found it. Just for good reason I used rpm -e kmix and reinstalled it. Same version. Still bad. Sound works when KDE boots up. Yast2 also works. BUT kmix lacks pots First thing I did upon noticing Pulseaudio was now enabled as default was to turn it off. Bear in mind that there are two Kmixers - one 'normal' and the other a 'kmix-pulse' for use with Pulseadudio. You might want to check if you are indeed running the correct matching versions.

-Mike

Thanks for the suggesion Mike and Patrick. ~> kmix-pulse If 'kmix-pulse' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup

On 02/13/2011 06:41 PM, Michael Powell wrote: the package that contains it, like this: cnf kmix-pulse and ~> which kmix /usr/bin/kmix (as a user) ~> /usr/bin/kmix ( in a xterm/knosole) grepHelper: File does not exists: "/proc/asound/card1/pcm0p/info" grepHelper: File does not exists: "/proc/asound/card1/pcm0p/info"

Yet Amarok is playing just fine right now. And any YouTube is playing when called for.

l /proc/asound/card1/* -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Feb 13 19:54 /proc/asound/card1/id -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Feb 13 19:54 /proc/asound/card1/midi0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Feb 13 19:54 /proc/asound/card1/oss_mixer

I only see jack, esound and NVidia nforce2 and xine and gstreamer. No pulse anything via "lsmod" or "ps ax | grep pulse"

~> cnf kmix-pulse kmix-pulse: command not found (as root or a user)

(as su root) -->/usr/bin/kmix (in a xterm/knosole) unnamed app(6819): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."

unnamed app(6818): KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly.

If I can be of help please let me know.

This is 11.4 M6 of 6

If you are using pulseaudio kmix has a pulseaudio personality, without pulseaudio the original kmix is what you get. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Peter Nikolic

07:32

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: 11.4RC1 problems

On Monday 14 February 2011 00:41:45 Michael Powell wrote:

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First thing I did upon noticing Pulseaudio was now enabled as default was to turn it off. Bear in mind that there are two Kmixers - one 'normal' and the other a 'kmix-pulse' for use with Pulseadudio. You might want to check if you are indeed running the correct matching versions.

-Mike

Ahhhh you may have hit the nail on the head there thinking about it laptop has the 11.3 drive in it right now but will look into that later Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.7-0.7-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.5.5 (KDE 4.5.5) "release 1" 07:30 up 3 days 8:27, 4 users, load average: 0.01, 0.07, 0.03 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Sid Boyce

02:22

On 13/02/11 23:44, Donn Washburn wrote:

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Hi .

Right hardware Compaq Presario V5030 AMD Turion 64 1.5Gb Ram ATI video (shared memory)

New install 11.4RC1 x86_64 downloaded last night

several hard lockups needing me to force a restart

Kmix is doing my head in how can i get away from this horrible tabbed layout where each slider is in it's own tab it wastes space and is very very clunky and amatuerish and look horrible is difficult to use

I wanted to test the problem i saw mentioned about overheating on mobile broadband connections as the laptop is almost exclusively used with a mobile domgal but i coud not get the "vodafone-mobile-connect" to work on 11.4 and no network manager does not work with the vodafone dongal so it has to be the vodafone software

no lockups on 11.3 and no problem with kmix or vodafone .

Pete last nights kmix is screwed up. It shows NO pots. Nothing to adjust but

On 02/13/2011 09:39 AM, Peter Nikolic wrote: the Master volume control. I am getting tired of this kind of problem.

Did you try configuring kmix and unticking "enable system tray volume control". I am using pulseaudio and the only difference I see is only Playback and Capture controls on the x86_64 boxes. On the i586 box without pulseaudio kmix is normal. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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