Hi, After good experiences with PA in 10.3 and bad in 11.0 and 11.1 I'd like to propose you something. Ensure 11.2 gets rock stable PA without all the stupid glitches (I don't know - reconfigure kernel to suit his needs or do anything what helps) to get rid of users hating everyone and everything or just remove it. If you successfully get rock stable PA, add tight GNOME integration like Fedora did. I tried PA 0.9.15 with ALSA 1.0.18 and I'm not sure if it's going to get better. Additionaly, every crash of PA == crash of Tomboy, GNOME-Panel, Nautilus. I think I suffered enough to require rock stable system or at least tight integration _without_ using one single PA's PID during run (plug'n'play behaviour). -- Best regards, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://jakubrusinek.pl/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org