[opensuse-factory] Is there something the matter with the nouveau driver?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, The nouveau driver is not in the oss repo. It was in 11.0, it disappeared in 11.1, it is not back in 11.2, where it can only be found in a home repo. A year ago, 2008-11-30, Marcus Meissner wrote in this mail list, in reply to a question from Rajko M: ] Is no longer on 11.1, was dropped. ] ] It can be found in the oS buildservice. <http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2008-11/msg01228.html> But why? Is it bad, wrong, too experimental? What? This is a genuine question, I want to know if I can try it because I have problems with the NV driver (it crashes on restore from hibernation) If I read in /var/log/Xorg.0.log (oS 11.2), I see: (II) Loading extension DRI2 (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia" (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "nouveau" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nouveau (II) UnloadModule: "nouveau" (EE) Failed to load module "nouveau" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "nv" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//drivers/nv_drv.so (II) Module nv: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.5, module version = 2.1.14 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0 Thus, the order of preference for the X org people is: 1) privative nvidia driver 2) open nouveau driver 3) open nv driver. Why, if to them the nouveau driver takes preference to nv, was not included in the distro? Something wrong with that driver? (another question: is there a known method to switch driver? There is no more xorg.conf file) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAksSagAACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XfpQCeL6WpxvznkiQg+3Y8WC2v3xv6 eZ8AnApsfMFDHt1NlbuysUTaJTGfVKXb =X1On -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
(another question: is there a known method to switch driver? There is no more xorg.conf file)
Just create one and keep it limited to the stuff you want to set up, the rest will still be autosetup -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2009-11-29 at 13:39 +0100, Karsten König wrote:
(another question: is there a known method to switch driver? There is no more xorg.conf file)
Just create one and keep it limited to the stuff you want to set up, the rest will still be autosetup
Yes, I just did that. Appears to work. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAksSbBkACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XcQgCcCM+w4Gae+Vv78HXnpXxbWb4t 9MMAn09o/veThipIPHSB4VqB6PU0zGeH =8JwK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 01:32:58PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The nouveau driver is not in the oss repo. It was in 11.0, it disappeared in 11.1, it is not back in 11.2, where it can only be found in a home repo.
It's also in X11:Drivers:Video/xorg-x11-driver-video-nouveau but no longer builds against 11.1/11.2. Due to lack of ressources Novell employees couldn't look into that yet. Patches/submitrequests are welcome though.
A year ago, 2008-11-30, Marcus Meissner wrote in this mail list, in reply to a question from Rajko M:
] Is no longer on 11.1, was dropped. ] ] It can be found in the oS buildservice.
<http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2008-11/msg01228.html>
But why? Is it bad, wrong, too experimental? What?
We can't support it. Due to nouveau driver knowledge and lack of ressources.
Thus, the order of preference for the X org people is:
1) privative nvidia driver 2) open nouveau driver 3) open nv driver.
Why, if to them the nouveau driver takes preference to nv, was not included in the distro?
What's wrong with that logic? Give the shipped driver the lowest priority, so other manually installed 3rd party drivers are preferred. I believe this is what the user expects. The order still makes sense to me.
Something wrong with that driver?
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2009-11-29 at 15:15 +0100, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 01:32:58PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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But why? Is it bad, wrong, too experimental? What?
We can't support it. Due to nouveau driver knowledge and lack of ressources.
Ah... well, ok. Pity, I suppose... another abandoned project.
Thus, the order of preference for the X org people is:
1) privative nvidia driver 2) open nouveau driver 3) open nv driver.
Why, if to them the nouveau driver takes preference to nv, was not included in the distro?
What's wrong with that logic? Give the shipped driver the lowest priority, so other manually installed 3rd party drivers are preferred. I believe this is what the user expects. The order still makes sense to me.
Ok, seen from that side, it sounds reasonable. Thank you for the clarification, I appreciate it. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAksS4W8ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V5mACeNKd/tXQnb1/Jp6Wi2MleSC88 1fkAoJMV4XTKpi40SPfZncn9fdhHpHrc =sald -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Il domenica 29 novembre 2009, Stefan Dirsch scrisse:
What's wrong with that logic? Give the shipped driver the lowest priority, so other manually installed 3rd party drivers are preferred. I believe this is what the user expects. The order still makes sense to me. well but xorg load alla available drivers then unload the unwanted.. Form my xorg.log: ... (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 190.42 Tue Oct 20 20:26:00 PDT 2009 (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs (II) NV: driver for NVIDIA chipsets: RIVA 128, RIVA TNT, RIVA TNT2, ... ... (II) UnloadModule: "nv" ...
Is this right ? After the first in the list is loaded, it should skip the others.. Bye. -- *** Linux user # 198661 ---_ ICQ 33500725 *** *** Home http://www.kailed.net *** *** Powered by openSUSE *** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Nov 30, 09 22:03:09 +0100, Daniele wrote:
well but xorg load alla available drivers then unload the unwanted.. Form my xorg.log: ... (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 190.42 Tue Oct 20 20:26:00 PDT 2009 (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs (II) NV: driver for NVIDIA chipsets: RIVA 128, RIVA TNT, RIVA TNT2, ... ... (II) UnloadModule: "nv" ...
Is this right ? After the first in the list is loaded, it should skip the others..
Theoretically, yes. Unfortunately, it's not the way probing is implemented in the Xserver. It's also more difficult to get it right if loading and probing the other way round. Matthias -- Matthias Hopf <mhopf@suse.de> __ __ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ mat@mshopf.de Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R & D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Il martedì 01 dicembre 2009, Matthias Hopf scrisse: ...
Is this right ? After the first in the list is loaded, it should skip the others..
Theoretically, yes. Unfortunately, it's not the way probing is implemented in the Xserver. It's also more difficult to get it right if loading and probing the other way round. Ok, thanks ! Bye.
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