RE: [opensuse-factory] PackageKit in Tumbleweed - no information of updates
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Andrei Borzenkov Gesendet: So. 06.12.2015 19:56 An: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org Betreff: [opensuse-factory] PackageKit in Tumbleweed - no information of updates
Running TW with xfce and just got popup that new updates are available. Apparently PackageKit is used (at least I see gpk-update-viewer running).
Unfortunately the only information about every update that is displayed is "This update will add new features and expand functionality". Which is not really that useful.
Are there technical possibilities to display something more useful (like changelog)? Where information for regular patches comes from (there we at least see bugs fixed)? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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This limitation is true for Leap and TW. I encountered it also partially in 13.2 but it went worse now. Actually in 13.2 sometimes the first bug gives a description. Also leap follows this pattern. If there is more than one bug, you need to recharge the list of bugs with packagekit (I am speaking about the applet in KDE I think with xfce by your description it is exactly the same issue). Try to first reload the list. Then the first patch you choose should give you the description. (With me it works but as said...only once per reload). --- Alle Postfächer an einem Ort. Jetzt wechseln und E-Mail-Adresse mitnehmen! http://email.freenet.de/basic/Informationen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 6. Dezember 2015, 20:04:52 schrieb stakanov@freenet.de:
This limitation is true for Leap and TW.
And 13.2, 13.1, 12.3, ... ;-)
I encountered it also partially in 13.2 but it went worse now. Actually in 13.2 sometimes the first bug gives a description. Also leap follows this pattern. If there is more than one bug, you need to recharge the list of bugs with packagekit (I am speaking about the applet in KDE I think with xfce by your description it is exactly the same issue). Try to first reload the list. Then the first patch you choose should give you the description. (With me it works but as said...only once per reload).
You can also raise the PackageKit "ShutdownTimeout" value in /etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf. The problem here is that PackageKit (or the zypp backend actually) cannot "load" the update details when it is restarted after it shuts itself down after 15 seconds of inactivity. That's this bug btw: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=855993 Of course if you raise this value, PK will block YaST/zypper for a longer time. That's the reason why it is set to 15 seconds in openSUSE in the first place. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Wolfgang Bauer
Am Sonntag, 6. Dezember 2015, 20:04:52 schrieb stakanov@freenet.de:
This limitation is true for Leap and TW.
And 13.2, 13.1, 12.3, ... ;-)
I encountered it also partially in 13.2 but it went worse now. Actually in 13.2 sometimes the first bug gives a description. Also leap follows this pattern. If there is more than one bug, you need to recharge the list of bugs with packagekit (I am speaking about the applet in KDE I think with xfce by your description it is exactly the same issue). Try to first reload the list. Then the first patch you choose should give you the description. (With me it works but as said...only once per reload).
You can also raise the PackageKit "ShutdownTimeout" value in /etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf. The problem here is that PackageKit (or the zypp backend actually) cannot "load" the update details when it is restarted after it shuts itself down after 15 seconds of inactivity.
That's this bug btw: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=855993
I am not convinced that this is the same problem, and in any case - throwing both TW and Leap in one mix is plain wrong to start with. On Leap (and 13.2, 13.1, ...) you have metadata specifically describing *updates*. Like updates/13.2/repodata/...updateinfo.xml.gz. It looks very much like file displayed by update frontends. On TW you have just regular package. There is no special metadata describing what has changed since the last version. The only information source is changelog. So they are fundamentally different. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 7. Dezember 2015, 17:12:05 schrieben Sie:
So they are fundamentally different.
They are. But PackageKit being a cross-distribution tool doesn't care about this difference at all, and doesn't know the first thing about there being a difference even. Kind regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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