[opensuse-factory] Suggestions for minor improvements in GNOME for 12.1
Hi! I have just been playing around with GNOME in 12.1 Beta and found 3.2 excellent. I have a few openSUSE specific suggestions that I think we could think about and discuss (with relevant bug information wherever applicable):- 1. Please enable showing the date by default in the gnome-shell clock This is bug 722218. I don't know if this goes radically against the design principles of the upstream devs, but I think it makes me uncomfortable to see that users would have to turn to a terminal command to change the present default, which is to only show the weekday and not the date. this could be done by means of a gnome-shell-branding package, for example. 2. There are a number of applications (X Kill, X Refresh, etc) which do not have icons, and which were not there in openSUSE 11.4's application list. Is showing these in the overview intentional (these were also absent from 11.4 + GNOME 3.0)? Bug 722217. 3. There is this package [1] that enables searching from the applications overview for packages in software.opensuse.org. It would be useful probably, to have this installed by default as it adds some (distro-specific) value and makes searching for not installed packages easier. It would also help if this, rather than the present default (Wikipedia) be made the default search engine in the overview. This is bug 722219. 4. I think it would also be great to have the application gnome-documents installed by default and listed as one of the favourite items on the dash. It is not on the Beta. 5. The alt-status-menu extension: this probably goes strongly against the upstream wishes to have by default, but I have found it generally useful because, not to speak of its other advantages, it finally gives me one way to manually hibernate my system. There is simply no other way to trigger this from the GNOME 3.2 desktop. So could we consider also having this by default or would that be really bad? 6. We have not yet found a way to integrate YaST control center into the desktop. We discussed three ways that this could be done earlier [2], and we should probably settle on the easiest of them to implement. 7. Time dependent wallpaper. We had this by default on 11.4, it would be great to have something simlar based on the 12.1 branding. This can of course be done a bit later into the cycle. I hope it is not too late to discuss these and work on them. I would love to help with several of these, and most of them are only minor tweaks, but I am stuck with little to no internet till the 18th of this month at least and I am worried that then it would really be too late. Thanks and bye -- Atri [1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=gnome-shell-extension-openSUSE-package-search&project=GNOME%3AFactory [2] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-gnome/2011-05/msg00009.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 06:10, Atri
Hi! I have just been playing around with GNOME in 12.1 Beta and found 3.2 excellent. I have a few openSUSE specific suggestions that I think we could think about and discuss (with relevant bug information wherever applicable):-
1. Please enable showing the date by default in the gnome-shell clock This is bug 722218. I don't know if this goes radically against the design principles of the upstream devs, but I think it makes me uncomfortable to see that users would have to turn to a terminal command to change the present default, which is to only show the weekday and not the date. this could be done by means of a gnome-shell-branding package, for example.
+1
2. There are a number of applications (X Kill, X Refresh, etc) which do not have icons, and which were not there in openSUSE 11.4's application list. Is showing these in the overview intentional (these were also absent from 11.4 + GNOME 3.0)? Bug 722217.
I don't see it in mine? Maybe I need to reinstall >_>"
3. There is this package [1] that enables searching from the applications overview for packages in software.opensuse.org. It would be useful probably, to have this installed by default as it adds some (distro-specific) value and makes searching for not installed packages easier. It would also help if this, rather than the present default (Wikipedia) be made the default search engine in the overview. This is bug 722219.
+1 - very useful :D
4. I think it would also be great to have the application gnome-documents installed by default and listed as one of the favourite items on the dash. It is not on the Beta.
+1
5. The alt-status-menu extension: this probably goes strongly against the upstream wishes to have by default, but I have found it generally useful because, not to speak of its other advantages, it finally gives me one way to manually hibernate my system. There is simply no other way to trigger this from the GNOME 3.2 desktop. So could we consider also having this by default or would that be really bad?
+100000 (I don't like the fact that they removed the entries w/o alt)
6. We have not yet found a way to integrate YaST control center into the desktop. We discussed three ways that this could be done earlier [2], and we should probably settle on the easiest of them to implement.
That could probably wait until after 12.1, IMHO.
7. Time dependent wallpaper. We had this by default on 11.4, it would be great to have something simlar based on the 12.1 branding. This can of course be done a bit later into the cycle.
Does gnome 3 support this now? Haven't tried >>; -- later daze. :: Robert Xu :: rxu.lincomlinux.org :: protocol.by/rxu -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
(this should probably go to opensuse-gnome?) Le mercredi 05 octobre 2011, à 06:10 -0400, Atri a écrit :
1. Please enable showing the date by default in the gnome-shell clock This is bug 722218. I don't know if this goes radically against the design principles of the upstream devs, but I think it makes me uncomfortable to see that users would have to turn to a terminal command to change the present default, which is to only show the weekday and not the date. this could be done by means of a gnome-shell-branding package, for example.
See my answer in the bug; the default here is very subjective, and I don't see a good reason to diverge from upstream.
2. There are a number of applications (X Kill, X Refresh, etc) which do not have icons, and which were not there in openSUSE 11.4's application list. Is showing these in the overview intentional (these were also absent from 11.4 + GNOME 3.0)? Bug 722217.
See my answer in the bug. Should get fixed once xorg-x11 gets rebuilt.
3. There is this package [1] that enables searching from the applications overview for packages in software.opensuse.org. It would be useful probably, to have this installed by default as it adds some (distro-specific) value and makes searching for not installed packages easier. It would also help if this, rather than the present default (Wikipedia) be made the default search engine in the overview. This is bug 722219.
Ah, yes, we discussed this but it got forgotten. Should get done soon as it's easy.
4. I think it would also be great to have the application gnome-documents installed by default and listed as one of the favourite items on the dash. It is not on the Beta.
I added gnome-documents to the patterns after beta already :-) But I forgot to change the default favorite apps; fix submitted to Factory.
5. The alt-status-menu extension: this probably goes strongly against the upstream wishes to have by default, but I have found it generally useful because, not to speak of its other advantages, it finally gives me one way to manually hibernate my system. There is simply no other way to trigger this from the GNOME 3.2 desktop. So could we consider also having this by default or would that be really bad?
What was discussed at the openSUSE conference is to install this extension (or a similar one) when the computer is a desktop (and not a laptop). Someone needs to do the logic for that.
6. We have not yet found a way to integrate YaST control center into the desktop. We discussed three ways that this could be done earlier [2], and we should probably settle on the easiest of them to implement.
Current idea is to add an item in the system settings that would start yast. Needs to be implemented, help welcome.
7. Time dependent wallpaper. We had this by default on 11.4, it would be great to have something simlar based on the 12.1 branding. This can of course be done a bit later into the cycle.
Already fixed in Factory. Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Quick follow-up: Le mercredi 05 octobre 2011, à 14:29 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
Le mercredi 05 octobre 2011, à 06:10 -0400, Atri a écrit :
3. There is this package [1] that enables searching from the applications overview for packages in software.opensuse.org. It would be useful probably, to have this installed by default as it adds some (distro-specific) value and makes searching for not installed packages easier. It would also help if this, rather than the present default (Wikipedia) be made the default search engine in the overview. This is bug 722219.
Ah, yes, we discussed this but it got forgotten. Should get done soon as it's easy.
One thing I'm worried about with this is that this adds a very visible non-translated string to gnome-shell. Before installing this by default, we need to make that string translatable (and translated).
5. The alt-status-menu extension: this probably goes strongly against the upstream wishes to have by default, but I have found it generally useful because, not to speak of its other advantages, it finally gives me one way to manually hibernate my system. There is simply no other way to trigger this from the GNOME 3.2 desktop. So could we consider also having this by default or would that be really bad?
What was discussed at the openSUSE conference is to install this extension (or a similar one) when the computer is a desktop (and not a laptop). Someone needs to do the logic for that.
Not done, nobody stepped up.
6. We have not yet found a way to integrate YaST control center into the desktop. We discussed three ways that this could be done earlier [2], and we should probably settle on the easiest of them to implement.
Current idea is to add an item in the system settings that would start yast. Needs to be implemented, help welcome.
Done. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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