[opensuse-factory] Kernel-xen is being dropped
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi, with request#345827, kernel-xen, -pv, and -ec2 packages will be dropped from factory. Instead, kernel-default will obsolete them by xen through pv-ops. I.e. install kernel-default, report potential bugs, and have fun, - -- js suse labs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWUv+nAAoJEL0lsQQGtHBJ2foP/1h2gX2kxzZphU26rXJuQirT DoZCBrKMbggw0SX8EY/b06lyjpmVKnlbDiGOlmX1h4yHyQAKmfMrQ7JPpudlRdd0 H8xA8Fh4fPL8fpvxLMsMgHp3AB5Le2hTOsMB6DW43uP2OC+QrhnBZPr2LdVo+6Zv NOple3ChHn5g1gGDf3Uj6gTw3ReawtzGjz4ip4APBt0WzOF1hJLYS7AH+LLhfL4T c1tBaFrRZBDs0zkv/HrKGTPtbGFWrtRhLmMJeVd/p9khE3FCa/vqZbJ2HtCtLhdc rpvFBLlfY0jlCKfOVXWo67gsa+3F2miM3W94LsTvhcJIw2HMn1yXz13VvnHNP+CI w1LvJOhTSCRjJ4hx4pYjU5lNOu1/dxjbKIIEXOLGsWSmEFP+fcB5CZOFxbzLXSXn fnba8xLSJFa3Tf3JGrtepcVgs1K6T7mmAJ2eLnGSzdhv1GpYGSdouefAK5F9tNXY ntSnzWwn+kMA8BnY0BHy5kTjvfeJbGj2LK54FlHmtr78kPuwklvmjcxvakcUSt6I Gk39ssOwW9QGue6OLJAlZSpugQUUUirJoRY75pWou3tFWy1h9QJz9lZvwdE4uzNN Ar7s+h+zhpv2h6XYA964xCyRF2G6kQZKkSYilpOh6y9KudNRVK+tWa2W5uVwkE4e soEvHaT0jnK91COqhhGV =Of7c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 2015-11-23 12:59, Jiri Slaby wrote:
with request#345827, kernel-xen, -pv, and -ec2 packages will be dropped from factory. Instead, kernel-default will obsolete them by xen through pv-ops.
I.e. install kernel-default, report potential bugs, and have fun,
This makes me wonder if we still need the distinguishing -default suffix in the uname output for the default kernel. I mean, we can just set LOCALVERSION="" for that one, can we not? After all, it is now definitely the kernel with >50% installation share (since -desktop got absorbed). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/23/2015, 01:11 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Monday 2015-11-23 12:59, Jiri Slaby wrote:
with request#345827, kernel-xen, -pv, and -ec2 packages will be dropped from factory. Instead, kernel-default will obsolete them by xen through pv-ops.
I.e. install kernel-default, report potential bugs, and have fun,
This makes me wonder if we still need the distinguishing -default suffix in the uname output for the default kernel. I mean, we can just set LOCALVERSION="" for that one, can we not? After all, it is now definitely the kernel with >50% installation share (since -desktop got absorbed).
We still have -debug and -vanilla and I think the differentiation from those two is still nice anyway. thanks, -- js suse labs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-11-23 13:42, Jiri Slaby wrote:
On 11/23/2015, 01:11 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Monday 2015-11-23 12:59, Jiri Slaby wrote:
with request#345827, kernel-xen, -pv, and -ec2 packages will be dropped from factory. Instead, kernel-default will obsolete them by xen through pv-ops.
I.e. install kernel-default, report potential bugs, and have fun,
This makes me wonder if we still need the distinguishing -default suffix in the uname output for the default kernel. I mean, we can just set LOCALVERSION="" for that one, can we not? After all, it is now definitely the kernel with >50% installation share (since -desktop got absorbed).
We still have -debug and -vanilla and I think the differentiation from those two is still nice anyway.
It would also be a change for the sake of change. There certainly is a bunch of scripts that assume the current uname -r scheme and identifying and fixing these would not be trivial. Michal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon 2015-11-23 17:53:54, Michal Marek wrote:
On 2015-11-23 13:42, Jiri Slaby wrote:
On 11/23/2015, 01:11 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Monday 2015-11-23 12:59, Jiri Slaby wrote:
with request#345827, kernel-xen, -pv, and -ec2 packages will be dropped from factory. Instead, kernel-default will obsolete them by xen through pv-ops.
I.e. install kernel-default, report potential bugs, and have fun,
This makes me wonder if we still need the distinguishing -default suffix in the uname output for the default kernel. I mean, we can just set LOCALVERSION="" for that one, can we not? After all, it is now definitely the kernel with >50% installation share (since -desktop got absorbed).
We still have -debug and -vanilla and I think the differentiation from those two is still nice anyway.
It would also be a change for the sake of change. There certainly is a bunch of scripts that assume the current uname -r scheme and identifying and fixing these would not be trivial.
BTW: I like the current state because I often build test kernels using "make binrpm-pkg". It produces "kernel" package that could get installed using "rpm -Uvh" in parallel with official SUSE kernels. Note that "make binrpm-pkg" is an easy way how to do fast incremental builds. "rpm -Uvh" removes the previous test kernel but it keeps a working "kernel-default" as a fallback. Best Regards, Petr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag 23 November 2015, 12:59:38 schrieb Jiri Slaby:
Hi,
with request#345827, kernel-xen, -pv, and -ec2 packages will be dropped from factory. Instead, kernel-default will obsolete them by xen through pv-ops.
I.e. install kernel-default, report potential bugs, and have fun, -- js suse labs
...does that mean we'll not use xen anymore? ...good. Cheers Mathias -- gpg key fingerprint: 5F64 4C92 9B77 DE37 D184 C5F9 B013 44E7 27BD 763C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 23.11.2015 um 14:39 schrieb Mathias Homann:
Am Montag 23 November 2015, 12:59:38 schrieb Jiri Slaby:
Hi,
with request#345827, kernel-xen, -pv, and -ec2 packages will be dropped from factory. Instead, kernel-default will obsolete them by xen through pv-ops.
I.e. install kernel-default, report potential bugs, and have fun,
...does that mean we'll not use xen anymore?
No, kernel-default is now supposed to be usable as dom0 and PV or FV domU kernel.
...good.
Yes, if it works as intended... Or did you imply it would be good if xen would not work anymore? That would be something I would not subscribe to :-) -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, i prefer kvm for my virtualisation needs... On 11/23/2015 09:53 PM, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Am 23.11.2015 um 14:39 schrieb Mathias Homann:
Am Montag 23 November 2015, 12:59:38 schrieb Jiri Slaby:
Hi,
with request#345827, kernel-xen, -pv, and -ec2 packages will be dropped from factory. Instead, kernel-default will obsolete them by xen through pv-ops.
I.e. install kernel-default, report potential bugs, and have fun, ...does that mean we'll not use xen anymore? No, kernel-default is now supposed to be usable as dom0 and PV or FV domU kernel.
...good. Yes, if it works as intended...
Or did you imply it would be good if xen would not work anymore? That would be something I would not subscribe to :-)
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On 24.11.2015 08:39, Mathias Homann wrote:
Hi,
i prefer kvm for my virtualisation needs...
That's actually not the point of the question. There are use cases where each excel. -- Ralf Lang Linux Consultant / Developer Tel.: +49-170-6381563 Mail: lang@b1-systems.de B1 Systems GmbH Osterfeldstraße 7 / 85088 Vohburg / http://www.b1-systems.de GF: Ralph Dehner / Unternehmenssitz: Vohburg / AG: Ingolstadt,HRB 3537
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