Re: [opensuse-factory] CUPS Printing for HP PSC 1510 Series : Tumbleweed
Am 07.12.12, schrieb Ken Schneider - openSUSE
On 12/07/2012 03:54 AM, Johannes Meixner pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hello,
On Dec 6 13:57 Ken Schneider - Factory wrote (excerpt):
On 12/06/2012 04:12 AM, Johannes Meixner pecked at the keyboard and wrote: ...
... what applications like LibreOffice, Gimp, Okular submit as print job data is ... nowadays often PDF. ... ... PDF processing by the printing system ... ... is an additional conversion step via /usr/bin/pdftops (provided in the poppler-tools RPM) that converts PDF to PostScript. ... When CUPS gets PDF it runs /usr/bin/pdftops ... . . . Is there any possibility of have a "pre-PDF" version of cups
Your comment/request does not make sense.
A previous version of cups that uses ps by default instead of the current broken one that uses pdf by default.
Sorry Ken, but you got this totally wrong! It is not cups which is supplying the print job as PDF, it is the application. If the application provides PS, cups uses that. If cups receives PDF, cups 1.5 *has to* convert it to PS, as it is the "native" format of cups 1.5. You do not want a pre-PDF version of cups, you want a pre-PDF version of all the applications Johannes mentioned.
There is nothing like "a 'pre-PDF' version of cups" that could make sense because CUPS is not poppler and poppler is not one of the above applications that submit the print jobs.
Yes but now cups uses pdf output by default and print jobs are now required to run pdftops but then not all printer options are passed through to the printer.
Nope. The problem is poppler producing malformed PS, if not called with the correct options.
If you like to disable PDF support in the printing system, disable support for "application/pdf" in all *.convs files for CUPS (/usr/share/cups/mime/*.convs and /etc/cups/*.convs) and then you can no longer print PDFs (it would fail with "Unsupported format 'application/pdf'") but I guess this is not what you mean with "'pre-PDF' version of cups".
I don't wish to disable all pdf support, just it being the default output of cups.
CUPS 1.5 outputs PS or Raster. Full Stop. Regards, Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/07/2012 04:23 PM, "Stefan Brüns" pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Am 07.12.12, schrieb Ken Schneider - openSUSE
: On 12/07/2012 03:54 AM, Johannes Meixner pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hello,
On Dec 6 13:57 Ken Schneider - Factory wrote (excerpt):
On 12/06/2012 04:12 AM, Johannes Meixner pecked at the keyboard and wrote: ...
... what applications like LibreOffice, Gimp, Okular submit as print job data is ... nowadays often PDF. ... ... PDF processing by the printing system ... ... is an additional conversion step via /usr/bin/pdftops (provided in the poppler-tools RPM) that converts PDF to PostScript. ... When CUPS gets PDF it runs /usr/bin/pdftops ... . . . Is there any possibility of have a "pre-PDF" version of cups
Your comment/request does not make sense.
A previous version of cups that uses ps by default instead of the current broken one that uses pdf by default.
Sorry Ken, but you got this totally wrong!
It is not cups which is supplying the print job as PDF, it is the application. If the application provides PS, cups uses that. If cups receives PDF, cups 1.5 *has to* convert it to PS, as it is the "native" format of cups 1.5.
Ok, sorry for getting it wrong. Then how can I force the apps to output PS so I can properly use all the functionality of my duplex printer? Or is the author of pdftops going to fix his broken program? Either way something IS broken and needs to be fixed. And please, NO PM, keep it to the list. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, On Dec 7 23:28 Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote (excerpt):
how can I force the apps to output PS
For LibreOffice I got this information: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=781193#c9 For KDE and Gnome I don't know, see my comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=732442#c9 As a workaround it should be possible to print from the applications into a PostScript file and then submit this PostScript file to the printing system.
something IS broken and needs to be fixed
See https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=776080 Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH -- Maxfeldstrasse 5 -- 90409 Nuernberg -- Germany HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendoerffer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2012 05:32 AM, Johannes Meixner pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hello,
On Dec 7 23:28 Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote (excerpt):
how can I force the apps to output PS
For LibreOffice I got this information: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=781193#c9
For KDE and Gnome I don't know, see my comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=732442#c9
As a workaround it should be possible to print from the applications into a PostScript file and then submit this PostScript file to the printing system.
something IS broken and needs to be fixed
Thanks for the links, they provided me with a better understanding of the print system and the problem with duplex printing. Since it appears that a newer version of poppler fixes the duplex printing regression problem will an update be forthcoming so that users with duplex printers can actually start to print in duplex mode? -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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"Stefan Brüns"
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Johannes Meixner
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Ken Schneider - openSUSE