Hello, Am Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 schrieb Brian K. White:

I have been meaning to ask someone about a curious non-randomness I've noticed in pwgen.

The 2nd character of a generated random password is never a number.

Indeed. Some testing (with pwgen -n -C) showed that also the first character never is a number. But: If you add the -s switch, you'll also get numbers as the first or second character. -s or --secure Generate completely random passwords Regards, Christian Boltz -- Dabei müsste er nur seine Entern-Taste gangbar bekommen, Debian lauffähig im Grundgerüst bekommt man ja beinahe automatisiert installiert, wenn man ein Weizenkorn auf die Entertaste malt und ein Huhn vor seinen Rechner setzt. [Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner in suse-linux über die Debian-Installation] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Thursday 22 of November 2012 00:59EN, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2012-11-21 21:48, Christian Boltz wrote:

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Indeed. Some testing (with pwgen -n -C) showed that also the first

character never is a number.

I think that maybe a rule...

Yes, the code allows adding a digit only after a phoneme which is not the first one. Thus a digit cannot appear as first or second character of a password (and as a third only after two one-letter phonemes). Michal Kubeček -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

I was out of net for a few days due to works to the network of my local provider, I plan to start working today. Greg I will send you a personal e-mail soon for the Digital Forensics stuff, I am in the begging of everything in packaging so I would like any advantage given to work on anything in order to learn :D. Have fun Kostas 2012/11/22 Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel@suse.de>:

Brian K. White wrote:

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On 11/20/2012 6:48 AM, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:43:45PM +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote:

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Hey,

I would like to get rid of

Base:System pwgen - Password generator

I am using that, I can take pwgen.

I have been meaning to ask someone about a curious non-randomness I've noticed in pwgen.

The 2nd character of a generated random password is never a number.

More analysis of pwgen behavior here: http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2012/01/17/5

IOW better use pwgen -s or pwqgen.

cu Ludwig

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2012/11/20 Stefan Botter <s.botter@jacobs-university.de>:

Hi,

On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 12:43:45 PM Henne Vogelsang wrote:

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I would like to get rid of : network ez-ipupdate - dyndns etc. updater

I'll take it.

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Henne

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I started packaging a few months before but I am willing to get one or two if when I find any difficulties there will be someone there to help me, I work along with some Greeks but they are not that experienced. Have fun Kostas -- --- \m/ --- http://opensuse.gr http://os-el.gr http://amb.opensuse.gr http://www.kde.gr http://warlordfff.tk --- \m/ --- me I am not I --- \m/ --- Time travel is possible, you just need to know the right aliens -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Quoting Kostas Koudaras <warlordfff@gmail.com>:

I started packaging a few months before but I am willing to get one or two if when I find any difficulties there will be someone there to help me, I work along with some Greeks but they are not that experienced. Have fun Kostas

Kostas, it would be my pleasure to mentor you in this area! Any question around packaging, feel free to ask, either on the -packaging list, to me directly per mail. Best regards, Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Kostas Koudaras <warlordfff@gmail.com> wrote:

2012/11/20 Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar <DimStar@opensuse.org>:

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Quoting Kostas Koudaras <warlordfff@gmail.com>:

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I started packaging a few months before but I am willing to get one or two if when I find any difficulties there will be someone there to help me, I work along with some Greeks but they are not that experienced. Have fun Kostas

Kostas,

it would be my pleasure to mentor you in this area! Any question around packaging, feel free to ask, either on the -packaging list, to me directly per mail.

Best regards, Dominique

Cool Thanks a lot, Tommorow it is my day off so I will look at those packages left and I will start :D

Kostas, I'm curious what you mean by "I will start". If you're trying to learn packaging, updating an existing package could be a smart thing to do, but maintaining these old static packages is pretty much like being a fireman in a town where the phone never rings. No real work to do, but you need to keep your training up so that you can do job when the need arises. BTW: there are much more active upstreams where packaging involves a near continuous process of updating the packages. Firefox would be prime example of that. Most packages are in the middle and get an update or two a year. If you want to try some from scratch, take a look at the under evaluation or consideration section of: http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Digital_forensics_and_incident_response That's a wiki page I use to track my packaging efforts related to Digital Forensics and Incident Response. Many of those aren't on OBS at all. What I do with a new package is search OBS via the webUI and see if there is an existing base to work from. Surprisingly often there is in someone's home project. Then I branch it and start cleaning up the specfile and get it ready for submission. Then I submit it to a devel project (often security for me) and from there to factory. The biggest issue on new packages is often making sure the license is done right to pass legal review. fyi: Most of what I work on is either forensic/security related or in the filesystems and backup area. I also have an appliance on susestudio that has most of the packages I maintain on it. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Nov 21, 2012, at 16:54 , Tom Abraham wrote:

I'll take collectl and pdsh.

Just as an aside, there are several newer version of pdsh, but upstream moved from sourceforge to google code. A. -- Ansgar Esztermann DV-Systemadministration Max-Planck-Institut für biophysikalische Chemie, Abteilung 105