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Terje J. Hanssen

8 Oct 2006 8 Oct '06

17:40

I just did a new attempt with 10.2 alpha 5 x86_64 on a Dell Precision 490 Xeon workstation. Happily the alpha4 USB mouse problem was fixed and the Gnome dekstop was possible to start testing. But I encountered several issues during the installation or with the setup after login, as noted below. Selected installation of Gnome as default desktop (+ most of Gnome and KDE incl. Desktop Effects and Remote Desktop), Xen server and other server utilities (NFS, Print, File, Web & LAMP). Even the Internet connection test with latest version notes responded OK, yet the following, suggested online configuration responded a fault with the Internet connection and didn't work! After login to Gnome, there was 17 software updates available. But the Zen updater ran into "Dependency Resolution Failed" error (as usual). Didn't come further with this. During the installation configuration my NVIDIA Quadro FX550 card and Dell 2405 FPW WUXGA monitor were automatic detected and setup correct with 1920x1200 resolution and 24 bit colordepth using the OSS "nv" driver, Fine! But I wished to use 3D for Xgl/Compiz and installed the latest NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64 proprietary driver according to the Howto for Suse users. So far so good. Went afterwards into Gnome Control Center > Desktop Effects to enable 3D and Xgl. Both 3D and Desktop Effects were disabled. Though my Quadro FX550 is still on the "not tested yet" part of the xgl HCL, it was NOT even possible to force enabling 3D/Xgl with the suggested Shift and dual click! It was neither possible to start SaX2 from the button in Desktop Effects, nor from the traditional program menu added to the panel. Started ok from YaST2>Graphic Card and display, but 3D was greyed out in SaX2 and it didn't sound possible to get 3D enabled there. Tried also "glxinfo" in a terminal, but the command wasn't found, remarkable as this did work in 10.1. Among other issues I noticed on my first test are: Starting YaST2 from an added launcher on the panel, doesn't ask for a privileged password, but starts YaST2 in the limited "user mode" directly. Trying to add a launcher for "Monitoring CPU frequences" to the panel, responded this tools wasn't supported. Wished to cusomize my login window preferences, but it didn't start from the menu i.e. More aplication>System>Login Windows, and responded with error message "gdmsetup", no such file or map. A visual issue in application's pulldown menus (i.e Firefox), is that when pointing on menu entries with the mouse pointer, the activated text becomes invisible (maybe due to a text vs background color issue) Tried to download (rpm) files with Firefox, and it worked only using left- lick on the url to download directly on the desktop. Using the normal right-click to save the file on a selected file/map didn'work. Nothing happened after Clicking the "Save" button. Comments, suggestions, confirmations or other experiences? Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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Terje J. Hanssen

8 Oct 8 Oct

18:50

tsclient I forgot to mentione I didn't find tsclient in the default distro nor in factory. Therefore I wasn't able to test it as my wishible frontend for rdesktop using RDP connections to Windows. As posted before, the previous tsclient-0.140 was dependent of the non-OSS ICA client and was found here: http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.1-x86_64/RPMS.gnome/ The latest and wishible tsclient is version 0.148 which I hope soon will become available without requiering ICA. Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Andreas Jaeger

9 Oct 9 Oct

05:13

"Terje J. Hanssen" writes:

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tsclient I forgot to mentione I didn't find tsclient in the default distro nor in factory. Therefore I wasn't able to test it as my wishible frontend for rdesktop using RDP connections to Windows.

I'll check why it's missing...

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As posted before, the previous tsclient-0.140 was dependent of the non-OSS ICA client and was found here: http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.1-x86_64/RPMS.gnome/

The latest and wishible tsclient is version 0.148 which I hope soon will become available without requiering ICA.

Terje J. Hanssen

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Andreas Hanke

8 Oct 8 Oct

19:59

Terje J. Hanssen schrieb:

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Starting YaST2 from an added launcher on the panel, doesn't ask for a privileged password, but starts YaST2 in the limited "user mode" directly.

This is a very annoying bug: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=202076 (Partially fixed, but the case where launchers are used from the panel and not from the menu is still not working) Andreas Hanke --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Kenneth Schneider

21:04

On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 19:40 +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:

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I just did a new attempt with 10.2 alpha 5 x86_64 on a Dell Precision 490 Xeon workstation. Happily the alpha4 USB mouse problem was fixed and the Gnome dekstop was possible to start testing. But I encountered several issues during the installation or with the setup after login, as noted below.

My install was on an older Compaq laptop using ftp as the install method (downloaded the dvd iso and shared via ftp). On reboot X would not start and system went into text mode for second part of install. Culprit: the xorg-x11-libXext rpm was not installed with the system. The Linksys WPC54G PCMCIA card is being configured as a network card *_not_* a wireless card therefore you cannot configure the wireless settings since you cannot change the card type to wireless in YaST. Waiting for the screen saver to kick in to see if the system still locks up using the bcm43xx driver. This is a kernel issue not opensuse. Still need to download the firmware from Ubuntu in order to use the card. The package selection screen during initial setup shows up as an 800X600 window that cannot be maximized when using a larger resolution during initial setup. Bottom line: keep up the good work it keeps getting better with each release. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Andreas Jaeger

9 Oct 9 Oct

05:15

Kenneth Schneider writes:

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On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 19:40 +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:

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I just did a new attempt with 10.2 alpha 5 x86_64 on a Dell Precision 490 Xeon workstation. Happily the alpha4 USB mouse problem was fixed and the Gnome dekstop was possible to start testing. But I encountered several issues during the installation or with the setup after login, as noted below.

My install was on an older Compaq laptop using ftp as the install method (downloaded the dvd iso and shared via ftp). On reboot X would not start and system went into text mode for second part of install. Culprit: the xorg-x11-libXext rpm was not installed with the system.

The Linksys WPC54G PCMCIA card is being configured as a network card *_not_* a wireless card therefore you cannot configure the wireless settings since you cannot change the card type to wireless in YaST.

Please file this as bug.

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Waiting for the screen saver to kick in to see if the system still locks up using the bcm43xx driver. This is a kernel issue not opensuse. Still need to download the firmware from Ubuntu in order to use the card.

Could you file a bug here as well so that we figure this out? Or does one exist already and no action is taken? In that case tell me, please...

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The package selection screen during initial setup shows up as an 800X600 window that cannot be maximized when using a larger resolution during initial setup.

We go back to the old way.

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Bottom line: keep up the good work it keeps getting better with each release.

But there's still some way to go ;-) Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Kenneth Schneider

13:18

On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 07:15 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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Kenneth Schneider writes:

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On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 19:40 +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:

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I just did a new attempt with 10.2 alpha 5 x86_64 on a Dell Precision 490 Xeon workstation. Happily the alpha4 USB mouse problem was fixed and the Gnome dekstop was possible to start testing. But I encountered several issues during the installation or with the setup after login, as noted below.

My install was on an older Compaq laptop using ftp as the install method (downloaded the dvd iso and shared via ftp). On reboot X would not start and system went into text mode for second part of install. Culprit: the xorg-x11-libXext rpm was not installed with the system.

Why was this _not_ part of the install? Is this an oversite or just a isolated incident?

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The Linksys WPC54G PCMCIA card is being configured as a network card *_not_* a wireless card therefore you cannot configure the wireless settings since you cannot change the card type to wireless in YaST.

Please file this as bug.

Will do.

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Waiting for the screen saver to kick in to see if the system still locks up using the bcm43xx driver. This is a kernel issue not opensuse. Still need to download the firmware from Ubuntu in order to use the card.

Could you file a bug here as well so that we figure this out? Or does one exist already and no action is taken? In that case tell me, please...

Will do. And yes the system does lock up, not when the screensaver starts but when screen shutdown occurs. Once I pop out the PCMCIA card the system is active again, strange. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Andreas Jaeger

19:13

Kenneth Schneider writes:

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On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 07:15 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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Kenneth Schneider writes:

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On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 19:40 +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:

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I just did a new attempt with 10.2 alpha 5 x86_64 on a Dell Precision 490 Xeon workstation. Happily the alpha4 USB mouse problem was fixed and the Gnome dekstop was possible to start testing. But I encountered several issues during the installation or with the setup after login, as noted below.

My install was on an older Compaq laptop using ftp as the install method (downloaded the dvd iso and shared via ftp). On reboot X would not start and system went into text mode for second part of install. Culprit: the xorg-x11-libXext rpm was not installed with the system.

Why was this _not_ part of the install? Is this an oversite or just a isolated incident?

If it's missing in the pattern list, then please file a bugreport so that we can change it and install it automatically (if it should), Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Silviu Marin-Caea

10 Oct 10 Oct

09:21

On Monday 09 October 2006 00:04, Kenneth Schneider wrote:

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On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 19:40 +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:

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I just did a new attempt with 10.2 alpha 5 x86_64 on a Dell Precision 490 Xeon workstation. Happily the alpha4 USB mouse problem was fixed and the Gnome dekstop was possible to start testing. But I encountered several issues during the installation or with the setup after login, as noted below.

My install was on an older Compaq laptop using ftp as the install method (downloaded the dvd iso and shared via ftp). On reboot X would not start and system went into text mode for second part of install.

I can confirm this, the second part of installation started again after first reboot.

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Culprit: the xorg-x11-libXext rpm was not installed with the system.

Patterns bug? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Kenneth Schneider

15:39

On Tue, 2006-10-10 at 12:21 +0300, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:

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On Monday 09 October 2006 00:04, Kenneth Schneider wrote:

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On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 19:40 +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:

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I just did a new attempt with 10.2 alpha 5 x86_64 on a Dell Precision 490 Xeon workstation. Happily the alpha4 USB mouse problem was fixed and the Gnome dekstop was possible to start testing. But I encountered several issues during the installation or with the setup after login, as noted below.

My install was on an older Compaq laptop using ftp as the install method (downloaded the dvd iso and shared via ftp). On reboot X would not start and system went into text mode for second part of install.

I can confirm this, the second part of installation started again after first reboot.

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Culprit: the xorg-x11-libXext rpm was not installed with the system.

Patterns bug?

This is what I am going to look into later today, although I'm not sure where to look. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Terje J. Hanssen

8 Oct 8 Oct

22:47

Grub boot menu without Xen: I also noticed, but forgot to mentione, that this time no Grub boot menu entry for Xen became available, as it did during the previous alpha4 installation. I made an new installation for alpha5 over the previous alpha4 installation. The difference this time was that I had added 10.1 in the meantime, in additon to the initial preloaded WinXP on the disk. That is I have a multiboot installation for WinXP, 10.2 and 10.1, but no entry longer for Xen. Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Andreas Jaeger

9 Oct 9 Oct

05:16

"Terje J. Hanssen" writes:

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Grub boot menu without Xen:

I also noticed, but forgot to mentione, that this time no Grub boot menu entry for Xen became available, as it did during the previous alpha4 installation. I made an new installation for alpha5 over the previous alpha4 installation. The difference this time was that I had added 10.1 in the meantime, in additon to the initial preloaded WinXP on the disk. That is I have a multiboot installation for WinXP, 10.2 and 10.1, but no entry longer for Xen.

Could you file a bugreport, please? Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Andreas Jaeger

05:12

"Terje J. Hanssen" writes:

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I just did a new attempt with 10.2 alpha 5 x86_64 on a Dell Precision 490 Xeon workstation. Happily the alpha4 USB mouse problem was fixed and the Gnome dekstop was possible to start testing. But I encountered several issues during the installation or with the setup after login, as noted below.

Selected installation of Gnome as default desktop (+ most of Gnome and KDE incl. Desktop Effects and Remote Desktop), Xen server and other server utilities (NFS, Print, File, Web & LAMP).

Even the Internet connection test with latest version notes responded OK, yet the following, suggested online configuration responded a fault with the Internet connection and didn't work!

"Most annoying bug"

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After login to Gnome, there was 17 software updates available. But the

"Most annoying bug"

...

Zen updater ran into "Dependency Resolution Failed" error (as usual). Didn't come further with this.

...

During the installation configuration my NVIDIA Quadro FX550 card and Dell 2405 FPW WUXGA monitor were automatic detected and setup correct with 1920x1200 resolution and 24 bit colordepth using the OSS "nv" driver, Fine! But I wished to use 3D for Xgl/Compiz and installed the latest NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64 proprietary driver according to the Howto for Suse users. So far so good.

Went afterwards into Gnome Control Center > Desktop Effects to enable 3D and Xgl. Both 3D and Desktop Effects were disabled. Though my Quadro FX550 is still on the "not tested yet" part of the xgl HCL, it was NOT even possible to force enabling 3D/Xgl with the suggested Shift and dual click!

Mmmh - please file a bug report.

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It was neither possible to start SaX2 from the button in Desktop Effects, nor from the traditional program menu added to the panel. Started ok from YaST2>Graphic Card and display, but 3D was greyed out in SaX2 and it didn't sound possible to get 3D enabled there. Tried also "glxinfo" in a terminal, but the command wasn't found, remarkable as this did work in 10.1.

Is freeglut not installed on your system? Perhaps we should add it, please file a bug against "Patterns"

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Among other issues I noticed on my first test are:

Starting YaST2 from an added launcher on the panel, doesn't ask for a privileged password, but starts YaST2 in the limited "user mode" directly.

Please file a bug.

...

Trying to add a launcher for "Monitoring CPU frequences" to the panel, responded this tools wasn't supported.

Please file a bug.

...

Wished to cusomize my login window preferences, but it didn't start from the menu i.e. More aplication>System>Login Windows, and responded with error message "gdmsetup", no such file or map.

Please file a bug.

...

A visual issue in application's pulldown menus (i.e Firefox), is that when pointing on menu entries with the mouse pointer, the activated text becomes invisible (maybe due to a text vs background color issue)

Please file a bug.

...

Tried to download (rpm) files with Firefox, and it worked only using left- lick on the url to download directly on the desktop. Using the normal right-click to save the file on a selected file/map didn'work. Nothing happened after Clicking the "Save" button.

Please file a bug.

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Comments, suggestions, confirmations or other experiences?

You've found quite a number of issues, please file them so that they get fixed, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Terje J. Hanssen

23:44

Andreas Jaeger skrev:

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"Terje J. Hanssen" writes:

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I just did a new attempt with 10.2 alpha 5 x86_64 on a Dell Precision 490 Xeon workstation. Happily the alpha4 USB mouse problem was fixed and the Gnome dekstop was possible to start testing. But I encountered several issues during the installation or with the setup after login, as noted below.

Selected installation of Gnome as default desktop (+ most of Gnome and KDE incl. Desktop Effects and Remote Desktop), Xen server and other server utilities (NFS, Print, File, Web & LAMP).

Even the Internet connection test with latest version notes responded OK, yet the following, suggested online configuration responded a fault with the Internet connection and didn't work!

"Most annoying bug"

210938 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210938

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After login to Gnome, there was 17 software updates available. But the

"Most annoying bug"

210939 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210939

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Zen updater ran into "Dependency Resolution Failed" error (as usual). Didn't come further with this.

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During the installation configuration my NVIDIA Quadro FX550 card and Dell 2405 FPW WUXGA monitor were automatic detected and setup correct with 1920x1200 resolution and 24 bit colordepth using the OSS "nv" driver, Fine! But I wished to use 3D for Xgl/Compiz and installed the latest NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64 proprietary driver according to the Howto for Suse users. So far so good.

Went afterwards into Gnome Control Center > Desktop Effects to enable 3D and Xgl. Both 3D and Desktop Effects were disabled. Though my Quadro FX550 is still on the "not tested yet" part of the xgl HCL, it was NOT even possible to force enabling 3D/Xgl with the suggested Shift and dual click!

Mmmh - please file a bug report.

210940 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210940

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It was neither possible to start SaX2 from the button in Desktop Effects, nor from the traditional program menu added to the panel. Started ok from YaST2>Graphic Card and display, but 3D was greyed out in SaX2 and it didn't sound possible to get 3D enabled there. Tried also "glxinfo" in a terminal, but the command wasn't found, remarkable as this did work in 10.1.

Is freeglut not installed on your system? Perhaps we should add it, please file a bug against "Patterns"

freeglut wasn't installed on my 10.2 alpha5 (as it is on 10.1). Yes, it ought to be added along with Xorg(?)

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Among other issues I noticed on my first test are:

Starting YaST2 from an added launcher on the panel, doesn't ask for a privileged password, but starts YaST2 in the limited "user mode" directly.

Please file a bug.

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Trying to add a launcher for "Monitoring CPU frequences" to the panel, responded this tools wasn't supported.

Please file a bug.

210941 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210941

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Wished to cusomize my login window preferences, but it didn't start from the menu i.e. More aplication>System>Login Windows, and responded with error message "gdmsetup", no such file or map.

Please file a bug.

210943 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210943

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A visual issue in application's pulldown menus (i.e Firefox), is that when pointing on menu entries with the mouse pointer, the activated text becomes invisible (maybe due to a text vs background color issue)

Please file a bug.

210944 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210944

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Tried to download (rpm) files with Firefox, and it worked only using left- lick on the url to download directly on the desktop. Using the normal right-click to save the file on a selected file/map didn'work. Nothing happened after Clicking the "Save" button.

Please file a bug.

Bug 210945 Is it really a new neccessary setup in Mozilla browsers? Have never required this before as I've experienced.

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Comments, suggestions, confirmations or other experiences?

You've found quite a number of issues, please file them so that they get fixed,

Andreas

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