[opensuse-factory] Live installers
Hi, The live installers are broken - the GNOME one just seems to crash and the KDE one looks horrible. As neither is really maintained, I consider removing the live installer option and concentrate on DVD and NET installations. This is how KDE installer looks like: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/2503/modules/welcome/steps/1 This is how GNOME installer looks like: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/2487/modules/welcome/steps/1 Of course I won't stand in the way of anyone fixing it, but if noone does, I'll remove the live install option in a couple of weeks. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 7 May 2014 11:15, Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.de> wrote:
Hi,
The live installers are broken - the GNOME one just seems to crash and the KDE one looks horrible. As neither is really maintained, I consider removing the live installer option and concentrate on DVD and NET installations.
This is how KDE installer looks like: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/2503/modules/welcome/steps/1
This is how GNOME installer looks like: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/2487/modules/welcome/steps/1
Of course I won't stand in the way of anyone fixing it, but if noone does, I'll remove the live install option in a couple of weeks.
Greetings, Stephan
Do the 'Live Installers' from inside the DM's work? I don't see a test for them in openQA, but if that method of installing from a LiveCD works, I dont see the point of having 2 ways of installing from a LiveCD -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 07.05.2014 11:20, Richard Brown wrote:
On 7 May 2014 11:15, Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.de> wrote:
Hi,
The live installers are broken - the GNOME one just seems to crash and the KDE one looks horrible. As neither is really maintained, I consider removing the live installer option and concentrate on DVD and NET installations.
This is how KDE installer looks like: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/2503/modules/welcome/steps/1
This is how GNOME installer looks like: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/2487/modules/welcome/steps/1
Of course I won't stand in the way of anyone fixing it, but if noone does, I'll remove the live install option in a couple of weeks.
Greetings, Stephan
Do the 'Live Installers' from inside the DM's work? I don't see a test for them in openQA, but if that method of installing from a LiveCD works, I dont see the point of having 2 ways of installing from a LiveCD
You can download the ISOs from the openqa web page and test yourself. I don't know. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On May 7, 2014 5:20:40 AM EDT, Richard Brown <RBrownCCB@opensuse.org> wrote:
On 7 May 2014 11:15, Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.de> wrote:
Hi,
The live installers are broken - the GNOME one just seems to crash and the KDE one looks horrible. As neither is really maintained, I consider removing the live installer option and concentrate on DVD and NET installations.
This is how KDE installer looks like: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/2503/modules/welcome/steps/1
This is how GNOME installer looks like: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/2487/modules/welcome/steps/1
Of course I won't stand in the way of anyone fixing it, but if noone does, I'll remove the live install option in a couple of weeks.
Greetings, Stephan
Do the 'Live Installers' from inside the DM's work? I don't see a test for them in openQA, but if that method of installing from a LiveCD works, I dont see the point of having 2 ways of installing from a LiveCD
I think susestudio uses the live installers from inside the DM. I hope we don't lose that functionality. Greg -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Stephan Kulow wrote:
The live installers are broken - the GNOME one just seems to crash and the KDE one looks horrible. As neither is really maintained, I consider removing the live installer option and concentrate on DVD and NET installations.
+1 cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El 07/05/14 11:15, Stephan Kulow escribió:
Hi,
The live installers are broken - the GNOME one just seems to crash and the KDE one looks horrible. As neither is really maintained, I consider removing the live installer option and concentrate on DVD and NET installations.
This is how KDE installer looks like: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/2503/modules/welcome/steps/1
This is how GNOME installer looks like: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/2487/modules/welcome/steps/1
Of course I won't stand in the way of anyone fixing it, but if noone does, I'll remove the live install option in a couple of weeks.
I think that nowadays with cheap pen drives it makes more sense to use the DVD image's installer instead. Greetings, - -- Javier Llorente -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlNqadcACgkQdV3zWWOPFxRaogCeK7hWuJLrSaQSm65MA3TNh7Tl ar8AniM3bTRYrVM7fNa8+QmEytfgfb+U =p9Pb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/07/2014 01:13 PM, Javier Llorente wrote:
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El 07/05/14 11:15, Stephan Kulow escribió:
Hi,
The live installers are broken - the GNOME one just seems to crash and the KDE one looks horrible. As neither is really maintained, I consider removing the live installer option and concentrate on DVD and NET installations.
This is how KDE installer looks like: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/2503/modules/welcome/steps/1
This is how GNOME installer looks like: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/2487/modules/welcome/steps/1
Of course I won't stand in the way of anyone fixing it, but if noone does, I'll remove the live install option in a couple of weeks.
I think that nowadays with cheap pen drives it makes more sense to use the DVD image's installer instead.
Greetings, - -- Javier Llorente -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-05-07 19:13, Javier Llorente wrote:
El 07/05/14 11:15, Stephan Kulow escribió:
I think that nowadays with cheap pen drives it makes more sense to use the DVD image's installer instead.
That's not the only consideration. One, is that not everybody can download a DVD fast. For me, it can take about two days. Ok, I can do it in a day, but then I can not do any other thing, because my internet pipe is filled to capacity. Or, download it during sleep, leaving a machine running for that purpose. Another, is that often people download the lives to test them, and after they decide they like the system, they install it. That one, is, IMHO, a very important consideration. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlNqsiwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WrvQCfSAygj3RVH9tVsisooRGyPWU4 DRsAn0uVrjhTHia3YEnl0gzPqgcje7Wh =mqZ2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 08 May 2014, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-05-07 19:13, Javier Llorente wrote:
El 07/05/14 11:15, Stephan Kulow escribió:
I think that nowadays with cheap pen drives it makes more sense to use the DVD image's installer instead.
That's not the only consideration.
One, is that not everybody can download a DVD fast. For me, it can take about two days. Ok, I can do it in a day, but then I can not do any other thing, because my internet pipe is filled to capacity. Or, download it during sleep, leaving a machine running for that purpose.
Another, is that often people download the lives to test them, and after they decide they like the system, they install it. That one, is, IMHO, a very important consideration.
I've never seen the live DVD yet. But can't it just also contain the net-installer via boot menu? cu, Rudi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 08.05.2014 00:22, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Another, is that often people download the lives to test them, and after they decide they like the system, they install it. That one, is, IMHO, a very important consideration.
If you think it's very important, it's reason enough to go and fix it. If not, it can't be that important. Greetings, Stephan - -- Ma muaß weiterkämpfen, kämpfen bis zum Umfalln, a wenn die ganze Welt an Arsch offen hat, oder grad deswegn. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlNrHegACgkQwFSBhlBjoJbpDACg2SywbCKhtTumw6p/TFtxiefF 7uAAoNWrjTsWoHd4j6i0ChMhDVzIlzIu =LtrQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-05-08 08:02, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am 08.05.2014 00:22, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Another, is that often people download the lives to test them, and after they decide they like the system, they install it. That one, is, IMHO, a very important consideration.
If you think it's very important, it's reason enough to go and fix it. If not, it can't be that important.
Of course I think it is that important. But don't look at me to fix it. I have no idea about how to create those things, and I don't have the bandwidth for such a work. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlNrWyoACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XYxwCfQj3LjbDQ8Es69Cyhpp5gs1V0 61EAn0RNhT/7z9PJr2rwxZCN9b+UBhQ7 =bp3J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Stephan Kulow wrote:
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Am 08.05.2014 00:22, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Another, is that often people download the lives to test them, and after they decide they like the system, they install it. That one, is, IMHO, a very important consideration.
If you think it's very important, it's reason enough to go and fix it. If not, it can't be that important.
It seems to me that what Carlos describes is the whole raison d'etre for the Live images. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (16.6°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-05-08 12:24, Per Jessen wrote:
It seems to me that what Carlos describes is the whole raison d'etre for the Live images.
Yes. I think that the project would suffer if they disappear. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlNrW+AACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WMIQCeMUqTPoP/r9TiEKuxDSuPPBVQ ipMAniZ1/x8Hg2Zt2+Y1kVZG+cN+/Sk8 =n0wb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/08/2014 12:26 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-05-08 12:24, Per Jessen wrote:
It seems to me that what Carlos describes is the whole raison d'etre for the Live images.
Yes. I think that the project would suffer if they disappear.
If I understood coolo properly, the main reason for dropping them IS NOT that they are not useful anymore. The reason is that there is nobody taking care of them and they are usually broken. The question is not whether we want them (of course we do), but whether we can afford them. And we cannot if nobody steps in as maintainer. Coolo's mail was a call to action. No action (or ideas to workaround the problem), no installers. Regards. -- Ancor González Sosa openSUSE Team at SUSE Linux GmbH -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-05-08 12:43, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
On 05/08/2014 12:26 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-05-08 12:24, Per Jessen wrote:
It seems to me that what Carlos describes is the whole raison d'etre for the Live images.
Yes. I think that the project would suffer if they disappear.
If I understood coolo properly, the main reason for dropping them IS NOT that they are not useful anymore. The reason is that there is nobody taking care of them and they are usually broken.
Ok, I understand that. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlNrZS8ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WvAQCfdHg09rvLwZTwu899yZ7z3oAB kEcAni1JgS1I6WuaBlfX53AvmOBtqyTE =IRmh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/05/14 08:22, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2014-05-07 19:13, Javier Llorente wrote:
El 07/05/14 11:15, Stephan Kulow escribi�:
I think that nowadays with cheap pen drives it makes more sense to use the DVD image's installer instead. That's not the only consideration.
One, is that not everybody can download a DVD fast. For me, it can take about two days. Ok, I can do it in a day, but then I can not do any other thing, because my internet pipe is filled to capacity. Or, download it during sleep, leaving a machine running for that purpose.
There are other alternatives: * find someone who has fast internet access and ask him/her to download the DVD for you; * find a local Linux User Group who will burn a DVD for you; * get openSUSE Project team to send you the DVD; * find a shop which distributes Linux distros and buy a copy of the DVD.
Another, is that often people download the lives to test them, and after they decide they like the system, they install it. That one, is, IMHO, a very important consideration.
BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.13.0 & kernel 3.14.2-2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El 08/05/14 00:22, Carlos E. R. escribió:
On 2014-05-07 19:13, Javier Llorente wrote:
El 07/05/14 11:15, Stephan Kulow escribió:
I think that nowadays with cheap pen drives it makes more sense to use the DVD image's installer instead.
That's not the only consideration.
One, is that not everybody can download a DVD fast. For me, it can take about two days. Ok, I can do it in a day, but then I can not do any other thing, because my internet pipe is filled to capacity. Or, download it during sleep, leaving a machine running for that purpose.
The base install has grown over the years. Sooner or later you will have to download and install the packages that aren't shipped on the live CD.
Another, is that often people download the lives to test them, and after they decide they like the system, they install it. That one, is, IMHO, a very important consideration.
IIRC, those trying a live CD image won't get the full desktop experience. This could be changed. One possibility is having two types of images, one for trying openSUSE and another one for installing it. On the other hand, some SUSE Studio users won't be happy with no live installer. Greetings, - -- Javier Llorente -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlNrXGsACgkQdV3zWWOPFxTwygCbBlni1kvXWCnnP/0WjQyNqkog Z9AAn2YvaZyR9Y/Y5imkGE2jiYjLEyNQ =lbYw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-05-08 12:29, Javier Llorente wrote:
El 08/05/14 00:22, Carlos E. R. escribió:
The base install has grown over the years. Sooner or later you will have to download and install the packages that aren't shipped on the live CD.
Yes, of course. And updates are huge. There are people out there using openSUSE with no Internet, or with just a plain modem. Yes, this year. I know some that go to a library to try download the updates on the library machine and take them back home. I say "try" because it is quite difficult (unless you mirror the repo entirely). But that's a different problem: if you can download an image on a library, you use the DVD if possible.
Another, is that often people download the lives to test them, and after they decide they like the system, they install it. That one, is, IMHO, a very important consideration.
IIRC, those trying a live CD image won't get the full desktop experience. This could be changed.
Of course they don't. But it is an easy way for a Windows user to get a feeling without installing anything at all, or to try several distros and choose one. Even seasoned users use the lives to test if the new version runs on their machine, because they got a version that doesn't.
One possibility is having two types of images, one for trying openSUSE and another one for installing it.
Yes, it is. Mind, I've never installed myself from one of the lives, I prefer the full DVD. I just know many people that prefer the lives.
On the other hand, some SUSE Studio users won't be happy with no live installer.
I don't suppose Studio is affected. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlNrXt8ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WKMgCfUEtqffR9BUpsb8nlH8Jv2AKD u3cAoJCVfpDuV3m7lRPpYtjSLNhZVQB6 =XUUN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/08/2014 06:39 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2014-05-08 12:29, Javier Llorente wrote:
El 08/05/14 00:22, Carlos E. R. escribió:
Another, is that often people download the lives to test them, and after they decide they like the system, they install it. That one, is, IMHO, a very important consideration.
IIRC, those trying a live CD image won't get the full desktop experience. This could be changed.
Of course they don't. But it is an easy way for a Windows user to get a feeling without installing anything at all, or to try several distros and choose one.
Even seasoned users use the lives to test if the new version runs on their machine, because they got a version that doesn't.
The live images are very useful for people testing if openSUSE can run on a laptop they are interested in purchasing. Surely we need a live image for a USB drive. Yes? -- Cheers! Roman -------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! -------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 08.05.2014 17:32, schrieb Roman Bysh:
IIRC, those trying a live CD image won't get the full desktop experience. This could be changed.
Of course they don't. But it is an easy way for a Windows user to get a feeling without installing anything at all, or to try several distros and choose one.
Even seasoned users use the lives to test if the new version runs on their machine, because they got a version that doesn't.
The live images are very useful for people testing if openSUSE can run on a laptop they are interested in purchasing.
Surely we need a live image for a USB drive. Yes?
We talk about installing them, not about testing. Basically you can test openSUSE with live media, but you will need to download e.g. the NET iso to install them. If we can combine the NET iso with the Live parts is another open question that might be worth investigating, but I would be concerned about stricter size constraints then. Greetings, Stephan -- Ma muaß weiterkämpfen, kämpfen bis zum Umfalln, a wenn die ganze Welt an Arsch offen hat, oder grad deswegn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/2014 03:21 PM, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am 08.05.2014 17:32, schrieb Roman Bysh:
IIRC, those trying a live CD image won't get the full desktop experience. This could be changed.
Of course they don't. But it is an easy way for a Windows user to get a feeling without installing anything at all, or to try several distros and choose one.
Even seasoned users use the lives to test if the new version runs on their machine, because they got a version that doesn't.
The live images are very useful for people testing if openSUSE can run on a laptop they are interested in purchasing.
Surely we need a live image for a USB drive. Yes?
We talk about installing them, not about testing. Basically you can test openSUSE with live media, but you will need to download e.g. the NET iso to install them. If we can combine the NET iso with the Live parts is another open question that might be worth investigating, but I would be concerned about stricter size constraints then.
Greetings, Stephan
Agreed. I'm interested with NET iso and Live parts. It hasn't been explored yet. - -- Cheers! Roman -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTbAioAAoJEK4CgFtuQ0nbS1EH/3odJDbv/7VGGbh+43l5XeeT ZMEERkU4BFZ8Yshqb7hFT4tqmSHbdsV5X7h0iFKJwnnYNGqovL7r4HqUBh7c0l9t 8CuqUmRYdLNI/omThHpZjlsh7r828iD1eav/PWO4GeIEOC/HEnk4AZRdKb/++od0 NO28dvyo1T2R+UxRcm7tppCLLk+3qBHatpNimEoQx4UTJcGnG3nwOc2y1jQ8PRAs YotOqosvSAilgPKU9NppND/MveroehNAu8mX1lMktRnnZqNZLgr5BwgZkNk2TkkS OwCKSiE6WHq3KEZnRgU/9n2A+YNvTJ2AtTRLbTj+Fuhk7EqsxmIOn4vYAso2txg= =Cj4N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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Ancor Gonzalez Sosa -
Basil Chupin -
Carlos E. R. -
Carlos E. R. -
Greg Freemyer -
Javier Llorente -
Ludwig Nussel -
Per Jessen -
Richard Brown -
Roman Bysh -
Ruediger Meier -
Stephan Kulow