[opensuse-factory] Our Live cds again ;(
Hi, I just tried to evaluate a simple bug and in the process I found that I blocked libreoffice from the live cds in september and as such not a single milestone was released with libreoffice on live cds. That's unfortunately nothing I can readd now as libreoffice is worth at least 65MB. My plan was to pimp the live cds to be 1G and run from stick, but I never had the time to do that ;( So I guess our 12.3 live cds will have to live without libreoffice. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 08 Feb 2013 15:12:00 +0100 Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.de> wrote:
Hi,
I just tried to evaluate a simple bug and in the process I found that I blocked libreoffice from the live cds in september and as such not a single milestone was released with libreoffice on live cds.
That's unfortunately nothing I can readd now as libreoffice is worth at least 65MB. My plan was to pimp the live cds to be 1G and run from stick, but I never had the time to do that ;(
So I guess our 12.3 live cds will have to live without libreoffice.
Greetings, Stephan
Note: In the live cd also nscd (from glibc) is installed instead of unscd. Please check for that too. -- Robert Milasan L3 Support Engineer SUSE Linux (http://www.suse.com) email: rmilasan@suse.com GPG fingerprint: B6FE F4A8 0FA3 3040 3402 6FE7 2F64 167C 1909 6D1A -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 2013-02-08 18:20, Robert Milasan wrote:
Note: In the live cd also nscd (from glibc) is installed instead of unscd. Please check for that too.
unscd has been removed from Factory. IIRC, because it was unmaintained. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Stephan! On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 15:12 +0100, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Hi,
I just tried to evaluate a simple bug and in the process I found that I blocked libreoffice from the live cds in september and as such not a single milestone was released with libreoffice on live cds.
That's unfortunately nothing I can readd now as libreoffice is worth at least 65MB. My plan was to pimp the live cds to be 1G and run from stick, but I never had the time to do that ;(
So I guess our 12.3 live cds will have to live without libreoffice.
The present situation with the LiveCD's is quite disappointing in my opinion, from the point of view of software selection: 1. the GNOME LiveCD contains neither banshee nor rhythmbox, so no audio player that has a library, etc. 2. the KDE LiveCD has neither an audio player, nor a video player, in fact nothing to play multimedia on (at least the GNOME LiveCD contains totem, the video player, thankfully) 3. neither LiveCD contains GIMP and LibreOffice. As a result the LiveCD's feel rather unproductive at this stage. However, the good thing is that they boot and work (from a USB stick) extremely fast and responsively, and there aren't any bugs pointing to the Live media not booting from USB that I have seen. I don't know how easy or difficult it would be at this stage to simply add the missing software (and some more if there is more space) to the Live media patterns (so pardon me if this sounds incredulous), but switching to 1 GB medias, instead of trying to fit things on a CD, even at this stage would be extremely useful and a step in the right direction. Perhaps we could take a re-look at this? Thanks and bye. -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 09.02.2013 01:18, schrieb Atri:
As a result the LiveCD's feel rather unproductive at this stage. However, the good thing is that they boot and work (from a USB stick) extremely fast and responsively, and there aren't any bugs pointing to the Live media not booting from USB that I have seen. I don't know how easy or difficult it would be at this stage to simply add the missing software (and some more if there is more space) to the Live media patterns (so pardon me if this sounds incredulous), but switching to 1 GB medias, instead of trying to fit things on a CD, even at this stage would be extremely useful and a step in the right direction. Perhaps we could take a re-look at this?
Hi, Adding software is easy, but making our CDs not fit on CD has several consequences: 1. I think we need to provide a small CD that can do rescue tasks offline. I already created a config for a "X11" CD, but I didn't yet test it, nor does it have any useful branding/theming and as such it doesn't feel ready. 2. we need to change software.opensuse.org and tons of documentation Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:56:17 +0100 Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.de> wrote:
I already created a config for a "X11" CD, but I didn't yet test it, nor does it have any useful branding/theming and as such it doesn't feel ready.
Excellent. Where do you keep that configuration? -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 09.02.2013 19:38, schrieb Rajko:
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:56:17 +0100 Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.de> wrote:
I already created a config for a "X11" CD, but I didn't yet test it, nor does it have any useful branding/theming and as such it doesn't feel ready.
Excellent.
Where do you keep that configuration?
It's in kiwi-config-openSUSE as the other configs. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday 09 February 2013 09:56:17 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am 09.02.2013 01:18, schrieb Atri:
As a result the LiveCD's feel rather unproductive at this stage. However, the good thing is that they boot and work (from a USB stick) extremely fast and responsively, and there aren't any bugs pointing to the Live media not booting from USB that I have seen. I don't know how easy or difficult it would be at this stage to simply add the missing software (and some more if there is more space) to the Live media patterns (so pardon me if this sounds incredulous), but switching to 1 GB medias, instead of trying to fit things on a CD, even at this stage would be extremely useful and a step in the right direction. Perhaps we could take a re-look at this?
Hi,
Adding software is easy, but making our CDs not fit on CD has several consequences:
1. I think we need to provide a small CD that can do rescue tasks offline. I already created a config for a "X11" CD, but I didn't yet test it, nor does it have any useful branding/theming and as such it doesn't feel ready. 2. we need to change software.opensuse.org and tons of documentation
Stephan told me he's confident he can finish the rescue CD image but he is worried about step two, the documentation. On software.o.o the changes aren't huge. A merge request in https://github.com/openSUSE/software-o-o/tree/master/app/views/main should take care of most things. The other main page to be updated is https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Download_help of course. And its translations! Anyone willing to go over either of those? /J
Greetings, Stephan
On Monday 11 February 2013 11:33:39 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Saturday 09 February 2013 09:56:17 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am 09.02.2013 01:18, schrieb Atri:
As a result the LiveCD's feel rather unproductive at this stage. However, the good thing is that they boot and work (from a USB stick) extremely fast and responsively, and there aren't any bugs pointing to the Live media not booting from USB that I have seen. I don't know how easy or difficult it would be at this stage to simply add the missing software (and some more if there is more space) to the Live media patterns (so pardon me if this sounds incredulous), but switching to 1 GB medias, instead of trying to fit things on a CD, even at this stage would be extremely useful and a step in the right direction. Perhaps we could take a re-look at this?
Hi,
Adding software is easy, but making our CDs not fit on CD has several consequences:
1. I think we need to provide a small CD that can do rescue tasks offline. I already created a config for a "X11" CD, but I didn't yet test it, nor does it have any useful branding/theming and as such it doesn't feel ready. 2. we need to change software.opensuse.org and tons of documentation
Stephan told me he's confident he can finish the rescue CD image but he is worried about step two, the documentation.
On software.o.o the changes aren't huge. A merge request in https://github.com/openSUSE/software-o-o/tree/master/app/views/main should take care of most things.
The other main page to be updated is https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Download_help of course. And its translations!
Guess this one, still based on 11.4, needs some love too: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Live_CD_installation
Anyone willing to go over either of those?
/J
Greetings, Stephan
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2013-02-09 at 09:56 +0100, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Hi,
Adding software is easy, but making our CDs not fit on CD has several consequences:
1. I think we need to provide a small CD that can do rescue tasks offline. I already created a config for a "X11" CD, but I didn't yet test it, nor does it have any useful branding/theming and as such it doesn't feel ready.
A pair of 1 G USB images, and a smaller CD for rescue operations would be wonderful. Specially if that CDs does have tools used in rescue, partitioning, cloning, etc. No need for LO there.
2. we need to change software.opensuse.org and tons of documentation
Some other time, then :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlEZfp0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VXjwCaA0Z/2LkmedxiwnYTbnvBjf/E o6kAn3XiMYcJ38285O8kdViR94u1/KBh =jXe4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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