[opensuse-factory] cannot print
Something has happened to my printing. I can print test pages from the printer but nothing from my desktop computer. Following error log with debugging on for failed print job. error log: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/cups.error.log /etc/cups/cups.conf http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/cups.conf openSUSE-Factory hp color laserjet 2840 hplip-hpijs-3.14.10-120.4.x86_64 hplip-sane-3.14.10-120.4.x86_64 hplip-3.14.10-120.4.x86_64 python-cupshelpers-1.4.5-5.1.noarch cups-devel-1.7.5-1.4.x86_64 cups-1.7.5-1.4.x86_64 cups-libs-1.7.5-1.4.x86_64 cups-client-1.7.5-1.4.x86_64 cups-pk-helper-0.2.5-5.1.x86_64 liboyranos0-cups-0.9.5-49.14.x86_64 cups-pdf-2.6.1-1.62.x86_64 python-cups-1.9.66-3.1.x86_64 cups-filters-ghostscript-1.0.58-35.6.x86_64 cups-ddk-1.7.5-1.4.x86_64 cups-libs-32bit-1.7.5-1.4.x86_64 how to trouble-shoot ?? ps: printer is networked and works fine from other work-stations including windows. tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Søndag den 9. november 2014 02:00:39 skrev Patrick Shanahan:
Something has happened to my printing. I can print test pages from the printer but nothing from my desktop computer.
openSUSE-Factory hp color laserjet 2840
I'm having problems with my HP Color Laser Jet Pro MFP M176n too. It worked great in 13.1 but not anymore after moving to a fresh install of 13.2 (hplip 3.14.6). The printer is detected (via usb) and configured fine by both hplip and YaST. And hplip reports everything should be configured and working correctly - also the required proprietary plugin is installed correctly according to hplip. However when configured with hplip it will not print anything. The printer receives the job, and says "printing..." on the LCD display, but it doesn't even try to print. When configuring with YaST I found a ppd file for my printer where I can actually print, but not in color, and stuff will be misplaced on the paper and there will be funky artifacts etc. (I tried printing from KMail, Okular, LibreOffice and Firefox, and all produces flaky results). I haven't had time to troubleshoot and experiment very much yet. But I'm also greatly interested in pointers for fixing, troubleshooting or workarounds from someone who understands printing. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Martin Schlander <martin.schlander@gmail.com> [11-09-14 06:58]:
Søndag den 9. november 2014 02:00:39 skrev Patrick Shanahan:
Something has happened to my printing. I can print test pages from the printer but nothing from my desktop computer.
openSUSE-Factory hp color laserjet 2840
I'm having problems with my HP Color Laser Jet Pro MFP M176n too. It worked great in 13.1 but not anymore after moving to a fresh install of 13.2 (hplip 3.14.6).
The printer is detected (via usb) and configured fine by both hplip and YaST. And hplip reports everything should be configured and working correctly - also the required proprietary plugin is installed correctly according to hplip.
However when configured with hplip it will not print anything. The printer receives the job, and says "printing..." on the LCD display, but it doesn't even try to print.
And I have six boxes using this printer, five successfully of which three are windows and one TumbleWeed and one openSUSE-Factory. Go figure. I will check the ppd files on the linux boxes, a simple thing to replace. tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [11-09-14 08:27]:
* Martin Schlander <martin.schlander@gmail.com> [11-09-14 06:58]:
Søndag den 9. november 2014 02:00:39 skrev Patrick Shanahan:
Something has happened to my printing. I can print test pages from the printer but nothing from my desktop computer.
openSUSE-Factory hp color laserjet 2840
I'm having problems with my HP Color Laser Jet Pro MFP M176n too. It worked great in 13.1 but not anymore after moving to a fresh install of 13.2 (hplip 3.14.6).
The printer is detected (via usb) and configured fine by both hplip and YaST. And hplip reports everything should be configured and working correctly - also the required proprietary plugin is installed correctly according to hplip.
However when configured with hplip it will not print anything. The printer receives the job, and says "printing..." on the LCD display, but it doesn't even try to print.
And I have six boxes using this printer, five successfully of which three are windows and one TumbleWeed and one openSUSE-Factory. Go figure. I will check the ppd files on the linux boxes, a simple thing to replace.
Three of my four linux boxes now will not print. (13.1 server) hplip-3.13.10-4.2.x86_64 (openSUSE-Factory) hplip-3.14.10-120.4.x86_64 (openSUSE-Factory) hplip-3.14.10-113.14.x86_64 (TW in VBox) hplip-3.14.10-113.2.x86_64 Prints from apps but will not print from hp-print On my main desktop, jobs do not even show up in the print queue or status page on hp-device-manager. On the other linux boxes they show completed. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [11-09-14 09:37]:
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [11-09-14 08:27]: [...]
And I have six boxes using this printer, five successfully of which three are windows and one TumbleWeed and one openSUSE-Factory. Go figure. I will check the ppd files on the linux boxes, a simple thing to replace.
tried a ppd file circa 2012 and that did not work. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Il 09/11/2014 15:47, Patrick Shanahan ha scritto:
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [11-09-14 09:37]:
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [11-09-14 08:27]: [...]
And I have six boxes using this printer, five successfully of which three are windows and one TumbleWeed and one openSUSE-Factory. Go figure. I will check the ppd files on the linux boxes, a simple thing to replace.
tried a ppd file circa 2012 and that did not work.
Change the Loglevel in cupsd to "debug" and look in cups.log. Restart cups before try. Daniele. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Daniele <kailed@kailed.net> [11-09-14 11:47]:
Il 09/11/2014 15:47, Patrick Shanahan ha scritto:
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [11-09-14 09:37]:
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [11-09-14 08:27]: [...]
And I have six boxes using this printer, five successfully of which three are windows and one TumbleWeed and one openSUSE-Factory. Go figure. I will check the ppd files on the linux boxes, a simple thing to replace.
tried a ppd file circa 2012 and that did not work.
Change the Loglevel in cupsd to "debug" and look in cups.log. Restart cups before try.
From the first msg in this thread: Following error log with debugging on for failed print job. error log: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/cups.error.log
and I did restart cups :^) But no joy tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Il 09/11/2014 18:43, Patrick Shanahan ha scritto:
* Daniele <kailed@kailed.net> [11-09-14 11:47]:
Il 09/11/2014 15:47, Patrick Shanahan ha scritto:
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [11-09-14 09:37]:
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [11-09-14 08:27]: [...]
And I have six boxes using this printer, five successfully of which three are windows and one TumbleWeed and one openSUSE-Factory. Go figure. I will check the ppd files on the linux boxes, a simple thing to replace.
tried a ppd file circa 2012 and that did not work.
Change the Loglevel in cupsd to "debug" and look in cups.log. Restart cups before try.
From the first msg in this thread: Following error log with debugging on for failed print job. error log: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/cups.error.log
and I did restart cups :^)
But no joy
tks,
Uh, sorry I didn't see the "debugging on" part. Well the log is not meaningfull, no errors... Daniele. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday 09 November 2014 02:00:39 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Something has happened to my printing. I can print test pages from the printer but nothing from my desktop computer.
Following error log with debugging on for failed print job. error log: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/cups.error.log
D [09/Nov/2014:01:49:20 -0500] [Job 1186] Auto-typing file... D [09/Nov/2014:01:49:20 -0500] [Job 1186] Request file type is application/pdf. D [09/Nov/2014:01:49:20 -0500] Send-Document client-error-document-format-not- supported: Unsupported document-format "application/pdf". Can you try $> echo "Test" | lp BTW: Can not access http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/cups.conf Kind regards, Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Stefan Bruens <stefan.bruens@rwth-aachen.de> [11-09-14 13:16]:
On Sunday 09 November 2014 02:00:39 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Something has happened to my printing. I can print test pages from the printer but nothing from my desktop computer.
Following error log with debugging on for failed print job. error log: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/cups.error.log
D [09/Nov/2014:01:49:20 -0500] [Job 1186] Auto-typing file... D [09/Nov/2014:01:49:20 -0500] [Job 1186] Request file type is application/pdf. D [09/Nov/2014:01:49:20 -0500] Send-Document client-error-document-format-not- supported: Unsupported document-format "application/pdf".
Can you try $> echo "Test" | lp
echo "Test" | lp lp: Unsupported document-format "text/plain". Why is text not accepted? And the solution, How to correct.
BTW: Can not access http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/cups.conf
ah, error here, wasn't others +r but is now :^) and wasn't cups.conf but cupsd.conf http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/cupsd.conf tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [11-09-14 20:09]:
* Stefan Bruens <stefan.bruens@rwth-aachen.de> [11-09-14 13:16]:
On Sunday 09 November 2014 02:00:39 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Something has happened to my printing. I can print test pages from the printer but nothing from my desktop computer.
Following error log with debugging on for failed print job. error log: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/cups.error.log
D [09/Nov/2014:01:49:20 -0500] [Job 1186] Auto-typing file... D [09/Nov/2014:01:49:20 -0500] [Job 1186] Request file type is application/pdf. D [09/Nov/2014:01:49:20 -0500] Send-Document client-error-document-format-not- supported: Unsupported document-format "application/pdf".
Can you try $> echo "Test" | lp
echo "Test" | lp lp: Unsupported document-format "text/plain".
Why is text not accepted?
And the solution, How to correct.
BTW: Can not access http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/cups.conf
ah, error here, wasn't others +r but is now :^) and wasn't cups.conf but cupsd.conf http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/cupsd.conf
google search for client-error-document-format-not-supported suggested missing cups-filters: https://lists.debian.org/debian-printing/2014/02/msg00026.html Installed: cups-filters 1.0.58-35.6 libqpdf13 5.1.0-1.4 now Echo "Test" | lp works AND: regular printing now works. Now to complain to inks4less that the drum they sold me doesn't allow color printing (which I seldom use). tks for the nudge :^) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, regardless that it seems to be already solved here some background information: On Nov 9 02:00 Patrick Shanahan wrote (excerpt):
openSUSE-Factory hp color laserjet 2840 ... cups-1.7.5-1.4.x86_64
CUPS 1.7.5 is not in openSUSE Factory: ----------------------------------------------------------------- $ osc list openSUSE:Factory cups | grep tar cups-1.5.4-source.tar.bz2 ----------------------------------------------------------------- CUPS 1.7.5 is only in the devel project "Printing" and therein only in the source package cups-SLE12: ----------------------------------------------------------------- $ for p in cups cups-SLE12 cups154-SLE12 ; \ do echo -n "$p : " ; osc list Printing $p | grep tar ; done cups : cups-1.5.4-source.tar.bz2 cups-1.5.4-source.tar.bz2 cups-SLE12 : cups-1.7.5-source.tar.bz2 cups154-SLE12 : cups-1.5.4-source.tar.bz2 ----------------------------------------------------------------- When you use CUPS > 1.5.4 see https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735404 In particular you usually need the filters that are no longer provided by CUPS which are now upstream at OpenPrinting.org that openSUSE provides in the cups-filters RPMs. What is usually needed by CUPS 1.7.5 is recommended in its RPM spec file so that installing it with zypper's defaults (that also installs recommended packages automatically) should "just work", cf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- $ osc cat Printing cups-SLE12 cups.spec ... # Since CUPS 1.6 all all non-Mac filters are dropped # (in particular pdftops, imagetops, imagetoraster, and texttops). # Linux-specific printing filters for CUPS are now provided by # the cups-filters package. # But those filters are not strictly required for CUPS # (e.g. on client systems in the network where the filtering hapens # on a CUPS server or on a CUPS server with only "raw" queues) # so that a weak Recommends fits better: Recommends: cups-filters ... $ osc cat Printing cups-filters cups-filters.spec ... # When a user installs the cups-filters main package, he usually # expects to get "the whole cups-filters stuff" installed # (i.e. also all sub-packages). Recommends: cups-filters-foomatic-rip = %{version}-%{release} Recommends: cups-filters-cups-browsed = %{version}-%{release} ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Regarding "weak Recommends fits better" cf. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776080#c38 https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776080#c39 https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776080#c40 Furthermore in your particular case: Plain text pronting does not work without texttops. Regarding test pages, see https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735404#c61 To check what recommended packages are not yet installed use "zypper -v install-new-recommends -D" Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX GmbH -- Maxfeldstrasse 5 -- 90409 Nuernberg -- Germany HRB 21284 (AG Nuernberg) GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendoerffer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Johannes Meixner <jsmeix@suse.de> [11-10-14 04:12]: [...]
To check what recommended packages are not yet installed use "zypper -v install-new-recommends -D"
Thanks for the explanation. Indeed the packages I added apparently completed the necessary requirements as nothing else shows. I do have the "recommends" option off in zypp.conf but have not noticed similar problem in my memory. Another tool to use to solve puzzles. tks much -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Mandag den 10. november 2014 10:10:17 skrev Johannes Meixner:
Hello,
regardless that it seems to be already solved here some background information:
The below background information still raises a lot of questions for me - and probably a lot of other people with openSUSE 13.2/cups 1.5.4. On 13.2 I have cups 1.5.4. and my HP Color Laser Jet, which worked fine with 13.1 is no longer working. 13.1 also had cups 1.5.4 as far as I can see. The 13.2 OSS repo provides a 'cups-filters' package, but this package is not installable on a consistent 13.2 as it conflicts with cups < 1.6. On 13.1 'cups-filters' didn't seem to exist. Any tips on how to get it working on 13.2? Or would I need to install cups > 1.6 from devel:printing, in order for it to work again?
On Nov 9 02:00 Patrick Shanahan wrote (excerpt):
openSUSE-Factory hp color laserjet 2840
...
cups-1.7.5-1.4.x86_64
CUPS 1.7.5 is not in openSUSE Factory: ----------------------------------------------------------------- $ osc list openSUSE:Factory cups | grep tar cups-1.5.4-source.tar.bz2 -----------------------------------------------------------------
CUPS 1.7.5 is only in the devel project "Printing" and therein only in the source package cups-SLE12: ----------------------------------------------------------------- $ for p in cups cups-SLE12 cups154-SLE12 ; \ do echo -n "$p : " ; osc list Printing $p | grep tar ; done cups : cups-1.5.4-source.tar.bz2 cups-1.5.4-source.tar.bz2 cups-SLE12 : cups-1.7.5-source.tar.bz2 cups154-SLE12 : cups-1.5.4-source.tar.bz2 -----------------------------------------------------------------
When you use CUPS > 1.5.4 see https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735404
In particular you usually need the filters that are no longer provided by CUPS which are now upstream at OpenPrinting.org that openSUSE provides in the cups-filters RPMs.
What is usually needed by CUPS 1.7.5 is recommended in its RPM spec file so that installing it with zypper's defaults (that also installs recommended packages automatically) should "just work", cf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- $ osc cat Printing cups-SLE12 cups.spec ... # Since CUPS 1.6 all all non-Mac filters are dropped # (in particular pdftops, imagetops, imagetoraster, and texttops). # Linux-specific printing filters for CUPS are now provided by # the cups-filters package. # But those filters are not strictly required for CUPS # (e.g. on client systems in the network where the filtering hapens # on a CUPS server or on a CUPS server with only "raw" queues) # so that a weak Recommends fits better: Recommends: cups-filters ...
$ osc cat Printing cups-filters cups-filters.spec ... # When a user installs the cups-filters main package, he usually # expects to get "the whole cups-filters stuff" installed # (i.e. also all sub-packages). Recommends: cups-filters-foomatic-rip = %{version}-%{release} Recommends: cups-filters-cups-browsed = %{version}-%{release} ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Regarding "weak Recommends fits better" cf. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776080#c38 https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776080#c39 https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776080#c40
Furthermore in your particular case:
Plain text pronting does not work without texttops.
Regarding test pages, see https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735404#c61
To check what recommended packages are not yet installed use "zypper -v install-new-recommends -D"
Kind Regards Johannes Meixner
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On 11/10/2014 12:17 PM, Martin Schlander wrote:
Mandag den 10. november 2014 10:10:17 skrev Johannes Meixner:
Hello,
regardless that it seems to be already solved here some background information:
The below background information still raises a lot of questions for me - and probably a lot of other people with openSUSE 13.2/cups 1.5.4.
On 13.2 I have cups 1.5.4. and my HP Color Laser Jet, which worked fine with 13.1 is no longer working.
13.1 also had cups 1.5.4 as far as I can see.
The 13.2 OSS repo provides a 'cups-filters' package, but this package is not installable on a consistent 13.2 as it conflicts with cups < 1.6.
On 13.1 'cups-filters' didn't seem to exist.
Any tips on how to get it working on 13.2? Or would I need to install cups > 1.6 from devel:printing, in order for it to work again?
I have an HP p1606dn B/W laser printer that is working fine under 13.2. The CUPS packages and versions that I have installed are as follows: All are from the OSS repo. Information for package cups: Version: 1.5.4-21.3.1 Information for package cups-client: Version: 1.5.4-21.3.1 Information for package cups-filters-foomatic-rip: Version: 1.0.58-2.1.3 Information for package cups-filters-ghostscript: ------------------------------------------------- Repository: Main Repository (OSS) Name: cups-filters-ghostscript Version: 1.0.58-2.1.3 ... Information for package cups-libs: ---------------------------------- Repository: Main Repository (OSS) Name: cups-libs Version: 1.5.4-21.3.1 ... Information for package cups-pk-helper: --------------------------------------- Repository: Main Repository (OSS) Name: cups-pk-helper Version: 0.2.5-4.1.4 ... Information for package cups-libs-32bit: ---------------------------------------- Repository: Main Repository (OSS) Name: cups-libs-32bit Version: 1.5.4-21.3.1 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Nov 10 19:17 Martin Schlander basically wrote only:
On 13.2 ... my HP Color Laser Jet ... is no longer working.
What HP Color Laser Jet? How is it no longer working? See http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:How_to_Report_a_Printing_Issue Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX GmbH -- Maxfeldstrasse 5 -- 90409 Nuernberg -- Germany HRB 21284 (AG Nuernberg) GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendoerffer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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