[opensuse-factory] I can't create a bugzilla on LXDE for TW
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi. I went to "search package" web page: <https://software.opensuse.org/package/lxdm> - From there I found that package is in X11:LXDE repo. I click on the OBS link: <https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/X11%3Alxde/lxdm> and there on the report bug. I write the bug, and I get this error in bugzilla: Assignee: sfalken@cloverleaf-linux.org did not match anything CC: allau@novell.com did not match anything jubalh@iodoru.org did not match anything lrupp@suse.com did not match anything LXDE is a main package (oss repo) in Leap, but not in TW, it is in an extra repo. I found a bug and wanted to report it, but I can't. What do I do next? - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloTRCYACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XDEQCgjFCqGzQO7DDODnqsfsF9rW1G pNcAn0ETkmVXjDleBq5XMIugbMjHzuFp =d7Mc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
El lunes, 20 de noviembre de 2017 22:07:43 (CET) Carlos E. R. escribi?:
Hi. LXDM was removed from Tumbleweed sometime ago and replaced with LightDM. You can find the reasons searching in this mailing list. If you've found a bug in the software, then you should file the bug report to: https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/bugs/ And then be patient. The development of LXDE is way slow these days. However, when a new Debian release is near, there is a lot of changes/bug fixes usually. Greetings. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2017-11-21 a las 19:22 +0100, jcsl escribió:
No, I want to report a bug against the openSUSE OBS package in particular, not upstream. The people that are configured to accept those bugs are refused by the bugzilla system. There must be a mechanism to report these errors. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAloUdBkACgkQja8UbcUWM1xJbAD/bca4tGcvJPAhLw25RL6XBPVL AqIdKT0keRc5fm0MACUA/j6PnJCnYw7QenXSslcs8IqGUHxK1OPDynMKFg7xnwk+ =1nSB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Carlos E. R. wrote:
You could try reporting it on the OBS mailing list, or maybe writing to admin@opensuse.org. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (7.5°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2017-11-21 a las 19:52 +0100, Per Jessen escribió:
Thanks. My previous mail I forwarded to the people the OBS say are responsible. I'll wait a bit to see if they say something, even if it is "I removed myself from the OBS link". Meanwhile, I have one FF tab occupied with the bug report that I can not send. I might clear them out, send to the default bugowner for the entire OBS, and forget. No wonder that some people say they don't want to write a bugzilla ever again! - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAloUhYIACgkQja8UbcUWM1zAnAD/QJqqaG8n0v3Zmoh+jSbe8BRi f5pEDW3Ce5gg8p8pNeUA+QHBhT8hF30+yxagyOQy1RUHR2Bb3VF2pBC/EiYge/AR =3o4Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
El martes, 21 de noviembre de 2017 19:44:32 (CET) Carlos E. R. escribió:
Hi. LXDE has no active maintainers AFAIK. You can leave a comment in the package page. It may be read by someone with access to the repository and the error fixed... or not. I think the error is this line in the .spec file: sed -i 's/sbin/bin/' %{buildroot}/usr/lib/systemd/system/lxdm.service Greetings. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Content-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.21.1711212052190.32550@minas-tirith.valinor> El 2017-11-21 a las 19:58 +0100, jcsl escribió:
Thanks. But you see, I'm not using LXDE at all! I was reporting a problem in lightdm and somebody told me to try lxdm, and I did, out of curiosity. I found a bug, and thought my duty to report it in the proper channel: Bugzilla. But if it is not maintained, my interest in LXDE is lost and I stop here. Maybe the repository should be removed. The problem remains, how to report a problem with the OBS-Bugzilla system itself. A maintainer is listed. Some addresses are _automatically_ written to the bugzilla. But Bugzilla says that those addresses are unknown! In fact, at least one of those addresses, at novell, bounces. There should be a written documented procedure on how to deal with this situations. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAloUhJYACgkQja8UbcUWM1yamQEAgzdlviQPUyPRp0tJzKmNMh6e fL5MKKr4iDOwsZIpp0gA/iXb0/Pj8Vsox5b3iKuCjAtKlclKSX2ep8XkznuqGEKB =iB7J -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hello, Am Dienstag, 21. November 2017, 20:55:02 CET schrieb Carlos E. R.:
I can imagine a few reasons why this happens, for example: - someone never logged in into bugzilla, and therefore bugzilla doesn't know his/her mail addresss - someone changed the mail address, and since then, only logged in in bugzilla _or_ OBS, so it got updated only at one place - someone left SUSE and the bugzilla account therefore got disabled
Feel free to read any documentation about searching for easter eggs ;-) Seriously: If I hit such a situation, I typically check the changelog for the last people who worked on the package. Another option is to start typing the name in the bugzilla assignee field and wait if the autocompletion comes up with a different mail address for that person. I assume you know how to edit the wiki - feel free to find a nice place for this and add it there ;-) That said - the last change to the lxdm package was two years ago and it was dropped from Tumbleweed, therefore I wouldn't expect too much from a bugreport in this specific case. Regards, Christian Boltz -- | $ rpm -q --whatrequires kernel | no package requires kernel Ach ja, dascha interessant! Kein RPM braucht das? Ja wie? Dann kann ich das RPM ja also beruhigt loeschen? Braucht ja keiner... *lol* [David Haller in suse-linux] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 22 November 2017 at 08:34, Dave Plater <dplater.list@gmail.com> wrote:
Not bad advice, except a) there is no formal 'quality control team' - just some proactive contributors who take it upon themselves to look at unassigned bugs. This is an area we could do with some help, basically anyone who knows how to look at a bug and use OBS/osc to figure out likely people to fix it could help. b) In this case Carlos is trying to file a bug against an orphaned/dead/removed piece of software. It is not in Tumbleweed. It should not be expected to have any active contributions going forward. This should be a good reminder that devel projects are not supported projects, and there should be no expectation that packages in devel projects have any kind of support or contributions. This is a perfect example why I bleat on about that so often - there is no active maintenance of lxdm, so there is no one to report the bug to. The only thing we could perhaps improve here is making it a little clearer that no matter what workarounds we could apply to get a bug filed in OBS, an lxdm bug report might as well go to /dev/null -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2017-11-22 at 16:01 +0100, Richard Brown wrote:
This is what I will do, because I don't know what else I can do.
It is in the OBS, and the OBS has a "report bug" link. I simply used that link and expected it to work. It does not matter if it is fully part of TW or not. As I explained elsewhere, I don't use LXDE. I was testing something else, bumped into a bug, and though my duty to report it. Simple as that. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloXHd0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UNqACgjp+uGDq8aIlazulClGjfwfEP RtAAn3hA1K0z0ZIlLedKPQeVwlIqFm6e =cbjF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Carlos, Sorry to hear about your troubles ;) On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 22:07:43 +0100 (CET) "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
This surprised me, because my private mail (jubalh@iodoru.org) is right.
- someone changed the mail address, and since then, only logged in in bugzilla _or_ OBS, so it got updated only at one place
This explains it however ;-)
For historical reasons I have rights to LXDE devel proj and answer/review requests there but do not proactively do much about LXDE. Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2017-11-23 at 12:09 +0100, Michael Vetter wrote:
Ah.
Well, if OBS:X11:LXDE have no maintainers on TW, I think the repo should be removed or disabled to avoid confussions. As TW evolves, the distance will get bigger and bigger. As I said elsewhere, I don't use LXDE myself, I simply bumped into a problem while testing for something else, so I thought I would report it. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloXHQMACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VH8QCeK3xDVZ83A//GRRhT5gQXseZ3 N3EAoJV6KW9MznhhCUaMQ78ZIi1Oyp46 =ZojL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
El lunes, 20 de noviembre de 2017 22:07:43 (CET) Carlos E. R. escribi?:
Hi. LXDM was removed from Tumbleweed sometime ago and replaced with LightDM. You can find the reasons searching in this mailing list. If you've found a bug in the software, then you should file the bug report to: https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/bugs/ And then be patient. The development of LXDE is way slow these days. However, when a new Debian release is near, there is a lot of changes/bug fixes usually. Greetings. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2017-11-21 a las 19:22 +0100, jcsl escribió:
No, I want to report a bug against the openSUSE OBS package in particular, not upstream. The people that are configured to accept those bugs are refused by the bugzilla system. There must be a mechanism to report these errors. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAloUdBkACgkQja8UbcUWM1xJbAD/bca4tGcvJPAhLw25RL6XBPVL AqIdKT0keRc5fm0MACUA/j6PnJCnYw7QenXSslcs8IqGUHxK1OPDynMKFg7xnwk+ =1nSB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Carlos E. R. wrote:
You could try reporting it on the OBS mailing list, or maybe writing to admin@opensuse.org. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (7.5°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2017-11-21 a las 19:52 +0100, Per Jessen escribió:
Thanks. My previous mail I forwarded to the people the OBS say are responsible. I'll wait a bit to see if they say something, even if it is "I removed myself from the OBS link". Meanwhile, I have one FF tab occupied with the bug report that I can not send. I might clear them out, send to the default bugowner for the entire OBS, and forget. No wonder that some people say they don't want to write a bugzilla ever again! - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAloUhYIACgkQja8UbcUWM1zAnAD/QJqqaG8n0v3Zmoh+jSbe8BRi f5pEDW3Ce5gg8p8pNeUA+QHBhT8hF30+yxagyOQy1RUHR2Bb3VF2pBC/EiYge/AR =3o4Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
El martes, 21 de noviembre de 2017 19:44:32 (CET) Carlos E. R. escribió:
Hi. LXDE has no active maintainers AFAIK. You can leave a comment in the package page. It may be read by someone with access to the repository and the error fixed... or not. I think the error is this line in the .spec file: sed -i 's/sbin/bin/' %{buildroot}/usr/lib/systemd/system/lxdm.service Greetings. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Content-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.21.1711212052190.32550@minas-tirith.valinor> El 2017-11-21 a las 19:58 +0100, jcsl escribió:
Thanks. But you see, I'm not using LXDE at all! I was reporting a problem in lightdm and somebody told me to try lxdm, and I did, out of curiosity. I found a bug, and thought my duty to report it in the proper channel: Bugzilla. But if it is not maintained, my interest in LXDE is lost and I stop here. Maybe the repository should be removed. The problem remains, how to report a problem with the OBS-Bugzilla system itself. A maintainer is listed. Some addresses are _automatically_ written to the bugzilla. But Bugzilla says that those addresses are unknown! In fact, at least one of those addresses, at novell, bounces. There should be a written documented procedure on how to deal with this situations. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAloUhJYACgkQja8UbcUWM1yamQEAgzdlviQPUyPRp0tJzKmNMh6e fL5MKKr4iDOwsZIpp0gA/iXb0/Pj8Vsox5b3iKuCjAtKlclKSX2ep8XkznuqGEKB =iB7J -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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