[opensuse-factory] Want to make a plasma session flicker like mad?
Try using the Vivaldi (64bit) browser for a while, use the mouse wheel to scroll up and down in various sites. i'm only playing with it for reading newspaper sites like the guardian, telegraph, huffington, metro and some of those sites hate being scrolled via the mouse wheel (though no problem in other browsers) If the pages start to flicker when scrolling then exit the browser and watch the desktop do the same for a while. Admittedly, vivaldi is a work in progress but i have no idea what to report as i can't get it to do this every time. Just wish i could record it to show it happening. i'm concerned that it affects the desktop after the browser has closed. I'm using kwin/plasma 5 - latest tumbleweed versions regards Ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* ianseeks
Try using the Vivaldi (64bit) browser for a while, use the mouse wheel to scroll up and down in various sites. i'm only playing with it for reading newspaper sites like the guardian, telegraph, huffington, metro and some of those sites hate being scrolled via the mouse wheel (though no problem in other browsers) If the pages start to flicker when scrolling then exit the browser and watch the desktop do the same for a while. Admittedly, vivaldi is a work in progress but i have no idea what to report as i can't get it to do this every time. Just wish i could record it to show it happening.
i'm concerned that it affects the desktop after the browser has closed. I'm using kwin/plasma 5 - latest tumbleweed versions
Tw up-to-date and nvidia 355.11 Dl'd for trial and do not find the problems you cite. Scrolls smoothly, has caused no crashes after about one hour. Appears very snappy although the interface is rather different. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Patrick Shanahan
* ianseeks
[10-16-15 13:16]: Try using the Vivaldi (64bit) browser for a while, use the mouse wheel to scroll up and down in various sites. i'm only playing with it for reading newspaper sites like the guardian, telegraph, huffington, metro and some of those sites hate being scrolled via the mouse wheel (though no problem in other browsers) If the pages start to flicker when scrolling then exit the browser and watch the desktop do the same for a while. Admittedly, vivaldi is a work in progress but i have no idea what to report as i can't get it to do this every time. Just wish i could record it to show it happening.
i'm concerned that it affects the desktop after the browser has closed. I'm using kwin/plasma 5 - latest tumbleweed versions
Tw up-to-date and nvidia 355.11
Dl'd for trial and do not find the problems you cite. Scrolls smoothly, has caused no crashes after about one hour.
Appears very snappy although the interface is rather different.
This was vivaldi-preview. Trying vivaldi-snapshot 1.0.300-5-1 now -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Patrick Shanahan
* Patrick Shanahan
[10-16-15 15:43]: * ianseeks
[10-16-15 13:16]: Try using the Vivaldi (64bit) browser for a while, use the mouse wheel to scroll up and down in various sites. i'm only playing with it for reading newspaper sites like the guardian, telegraph, huffington, metro and some of those sites hate being scrolled via the mouse wheel (though no problem in other browsers) If the pages start to flicker when scrolling then exit the browser and watch the desktop do the same for a while. Admittedly, vivaldi is a work in progress but i have no idea what to report as i can't get it to do this every time. Just wish i could record it to show it happening.
i'm concerned that it affects the desktop after the browser has closed. I'm using kwin/plasma 5 - latest tumbleweed versions
Tw up-to-date and nvidia 355.11
Dl'd for trial and do not find the problems you cite. Scrolls smoothly, has caused no crashes after about one hour.
Appears very snappy although the interface is rather different.
This was vivaldi-preview. Trying vivaldi-snapshot 1.0.300-5-1 now
Uses less memory than vivaldi-preview although not considerably but considerably less than firefox, seamonkey and qupzilla, and appears to be much faster accessing pages. No video problems with vivaldi-snapshot either. And both play "The Good Wife" on cbs.com but full-screen is not really full-screen. You-tube plays well and full-screen appears correctly. Over-all, first appearances vivaldi is a winner. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 16 Oct 2015 15:43:08 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* ianseeks
[10-16-15 13:16]: Try using the Vivaldi (64bit) browser for a while, use the mouse wheel to scroll up and down in various sites. i'm only playing with it for reading newspaper sites like the guardian, telegraph, huffington, metro and some of those sites hate being scrolled via the mouse wheel (though no problem in other browsers) If the pages start to flicker when scrolling then exit the browser and watch the desktop do the same for a while. Admittedly, vivaldi is a work in progress but i have no idea what to report as i can't get it to do this every time. Just wish i could record it to show it happening.
i'm concerned that it affects the desktop after the browser has closed. I'm using kwin/plasma 5 - latest tumbleweed versions
Tw up-to-date and nvidia 355.11
Dl'd for trial and do not find the problems you cite. Scrolls smoothly, has caused no crashes after about one hour.
Appears very snappy although the interface is rather different.
i'm using nv. the problem shows itself with the scroll bouncing back up immediately after you scrolled down but some of the other tabs are not affected by it. i'm just wondering if its a dodgy advert on the page as all these newspaper sites are advert driven. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hello Ian, I am observing a similar behavior since a while. Could you try restarting the kwin session. (Or rather: Start a new one with "kwin_x11 --replace"). If the problem vanishes, I would be quite sure that it is the same problem. The effect on my PC is about the same one like in this video (not made by me): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_zVI_yY6r0&html5=1 Till now I wasn't able to narrow it further down. Sometimes I had the impression that VLC is able to cause the problem. But it is not the only application. It may be interesting that I noted the same behavior on an Arch Linux installation on the same PC. To be exact: I reinstalled the PC because I hoped that plasma on OpenSUSE would be slightly more stable. Eventually this problem depends on the used graphics hardware? I have a Radeon card. hwinfo --gfxcard gives the following model: Model: "ATI Turks XT [Radeon HD 6670/7670]" I'm using the open source radeon driver. Kind regards Christian On 16.10.2015 19:13, ianseeks wrote:
Try using the Vivaldi (64bit) browser for a while, use the mouse wheel to scroll up and down in various sites. i'm only playing with it for reading newspaper sites like the guardian, telegraph, huffington, metro and some of those sites hate being scrolled via the mouse wheel (though no problem in other browsers) If the pages start to flicker when scrolling then exit the browser and watch the desktop do the same for a while. Admittedly, vivaldi is a work in progress but i have no idea what to report as i can't get it to do this every time. Just wish i could record it to show it happening.
i'm concerned that it affects the desktop after the browser has closed. I'm using kwin/plasma 5 - latest tumbleweed versions
regards
Ian
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On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Christian Mauderer wrote:
Hello Ian,
I am observing a similar behavior since a while. Could you try restarting the kwin session. (Or rather: Start a new one with "kwin_x11 --replace"). If the problem vanishes, I would be quite sure that it is the same problem.
The effect on my PC is about the same one like in this video (not made by me):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_zVI_yY6r0&html5=1
Till now I wasn't able to narrow it further down. Sometimes I had the impression that VLC is able to cause the problem. But it is not the only application.
It may be interesting that I noted the same behavior on an Arch Linux installation on the same PC. To be exact: I reinstalled the PC because I hoped that plasma on OpenSUSE would be slightly more stable.
Eventually this problem depends on the used graphics hardware?
I have a Radeon card. hwinfo --gfxcard gives the following model: Model: "ATI Turks XT [Radeon HD 6670/7670]"
I'm using the open source radeon driver.
It looks like it's a redraw issue. Probably related to double buffering or the like. When I've experienced similar things in the past, with Compiz (granted, plasma isn't compiz) I managed to work around it by picking other rendering methods. So, go to desktop effects configuration and try playing with the advanced tab. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 16.10.2015 22:26, Claudio Freire wrote:
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Christian Mauderer
wrote:
Hello Ian,
I am observing a similar behavior since a while. Could you try restarting the kwin session. (Or rather: Start a new one with "kwin_x11 --replace"). If the problem vanishes, I would be quite sure that it is the same problem.
The effect on my PC is about the same one like in this video (not made by me):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_zVI_yY6r0&html5=1
Till now I wasn't able to narrow it further down. Sometimes I had the impression that VLC is able to cause the problem. But it is not the only application.
It may be interesting that I noted the same behavior on an Arch Linux installation on the same PC. To be exact: I reinstalled the PC because I hoped that plasma on OpenSUSE would be slightly more stable.
Eventually this problem depends on the used graphics hardware?
I have a Radeon card. hwinfo --gfxcard gives the following model: Model: "ATI Turks XT [Radeon HD 6670/7670]"
I'm using the open source radeon driver.
It looks like it's a redraw issue. Probably related to double buffering or the like.
When I've experienced similar things in the past, with Compiz (granted, plasma isn't compiz) I managed to work around it by picking other rendering methods.
So, go to desktop effects configuration and try playing with the advanced tab.
That would have been my preferred method in KDE4 too. But I wasn't able to find this Tab in Plasma5. There is only one view with the effects but no tab where I can change the advanced settings. See the screenshot in this Link: http://temp.c-mauderer.de/temp/20151016223228-07a9e288-b671-406d-aac2-ab6592... Do you have any idea where the options are accessible now? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015, 22:36:25 schrieb Christian Mauderer:
Do you have any idea where the options are accessible now?
Display and Monitor->Compositor. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 17.10.2015 00:07, Wolfgang Bauer wrote:
Am Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015, 22:36:25 schrieb Christian Mauderer:
Do you have any idea where the options are accessible now?
Display and Monitor->Compositor.
Kind Regards, Wolfgang
Thank you. I haven't found it there. I will test a number of settings. Kind regards, Christian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 16 Oct 2015 22:18:46 Christian Mauderer wrote:
Hello Ian,
I am observing a similar behavior since a while. Could you try restarting the kwin session. (Or rather: Start a new one with "kwin_x11 --replace"). If the problem vanishes, I would be quite sure that it is the same problem.
logging out cures the problem for me.
The effect on my PC is about the same one like in this video (not made by me):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_zVI_yY6r0&html5=1
Till now I wasn't able to narrow it further down. Sometimes I had the impression that VLC is able to cause the problem. But it is not the only application.
It may be interesting that I noted the same behavior on an Arch Linux installation on the same PC. To be exact: I reinstalled the PC because I hoped that plasma on OpenSUSE would be slightly more stable.
Eventually this problem depends on the used graphics hardware?
I have a Radeon card. hwinfo --gfxcard gives the following model: Model: "ATI Turks XT [Radeon HD 6670/7670]"
I'm using the open source radeon driver.
Kind regards
Christian
On 16.10.2015 19:13, ianseeks wrote:
Try using the Vivaldi (64bit) browser for a while, use the mouse wheel to scroll up and down in various sites. i'm only playing with it for reading newspaper sites like the guardian, telegraph, huffington, metro and some of those sites hate being scrolled via the mouse wheel (though no problem in other browsers) If the pages start to flicker when scrolling then exit the browser and watch the desktop do the same for a while. Admittedly, vivaldi is a work in progress but i have no idea what to report as i can't get it to do this every time. Just wish i could record it to show it happening.
i'm concerned that it affects the desktop after the browser has closed. I'm using kwin/plasma 5 - latest tumbleweed versions
regards
Ian
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hello Ian, On 17.10.2015 12:58, ianseeks wrote:
On Friday 16 Oct 2015 22:18:46 Christian Mauderer wrote:
Hello Ian,
I am observing a similar behavior since a while. Could you try restarting the kwin session. (Or rather: Start a new one with "kwin_x11 --replace"). If the problem vanishes, I would be quite sure that it is the same problem.
logging out cures the problem for me.
that restarts some more applications. But I wouldn't rule out that it is the same effect. You might want to try what Claudio Freire and Wolfgang Bauer suggested for me: Change the rendering methods in System Settings -> Display and Monitor -> Compositor. Kind regards, Christian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hello Ian,
On 17.10.2015 12:58, ianseeks wrote:
On Friday 16 Oct 2015 22:18:46 Christian Mauderer wrote:
Hello Ian,
I am observing a similar behavior since a while. Could you try restarting the kwin session. (Or rather: Start a new one with "kwin_x11 --replace"). If the problem vanishes, I would be quite sure that it is the same problem.
logging out cures the problem for me.
that restarts some more applications. But I wouldn't rule out that it is the same effect. You might want to try what Claudio Freire and Wolfgang Bauer suggested for me: Change the rendering methods in System Settings -> Display and Monitor -> Compositor.
Kind regards,
Christian Thanks Christian. I might try that but it only happens when vivaldi screws up. i just thought i'd mention it as it continued happening during that session after vivaldi had been closed down. I thought it might be screwing with plasma in some way and
On Saturday 17 Oct 2015 13:22:51 Christian Mauderer wrote: the devs might have needed to know about it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* ianseeks
I might try that but it only happens when vivaldi screws up. i just thought i'd mention it as it continued happening during that session after vivaldi had been closed down. I thought it might be screwing with plasma in some way and the devs might have needed to know about it.
Did you report it to vivaldi as it is much more likely a problem with their software unless you witness similar problems with software provided by opensuse? re: "when vivaldi screws up". -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday 17 Oct 2015 09:49:14 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* ianseeks
[10-17-15 09:45]: [...] I might try that but it only happens when vivaldi screws up. i just thought i'd mention it as it continued happening during that session after vivaldi had been closed down. I thought it might be screwing with plasma in some way and the devs might have needed to know about it.
Did you report it to vivaldi as it is much more likely a problem with their software unless you witness similar problems with software provided by opensuse? re: "when vivaldi screws up".
i have, i was concerned that it "appears" to infect the desktop so i thought i'd mention it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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Christian Mauderer
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Wolfgang Bauer