[opensuse-factory] How can I enable the systemd-Gtk gui ?
Dear Listmates, I have also installed systemd and systemd-Gtk which should allow the me as user to see systemd in graphical format. Has any one been successful in viewing the gui portion? Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 13:41 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote:
Dear Listmates,
I have also installed systemd and systemd-Gtk which should allow the me as user to see systemd in graphical format.
Has any one been successful in viewing the gui portion?
It's called 'systemadm', but not very useful at the moment. It's just a pretty dumb client for the systemd D-Bus interface and not much more than an example or starting point for a possible future system service management interface. Kay -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 11/15/2010 01:53 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 13:41 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote:
Dear Listmates,
I have also installed systemd and systemd-Gtk which should allow the me as user to see systemd in graphical format.
Has any one been successful in viewing the gui portion?
It's called 'systemadm', but not very useful at the moment.
It's just a pretty dumb client for the systemd D-Bus interface and not much more than an example or starting point for a possible future system service management interface.
Kay
I had seen a graphical representation where you were able to stop and start services. Is this systemadm? Is this something that we can see in 11.4 but more useful? And if it is, can we see this added to Yast in the future? Btw. With systemd, I was able to shave off 15 -20 sec. when booting to desktop. And, the shutdown is very fast!! -- Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:08 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote:
On 11/15/2010 01:53 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 13:41 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote:
Dear Listmates,
I have also installed systemd and systemd-Gtk which should allow the me as user to see systemd in graphical format.
Has any one been successful in viewing the gui portion?
It's called 'systemadm', but not very useful at the moment.
It's just a pretty dumb client for the systemd D-Bus interface and not much more than an example or starting point for a possible future system service management interface.
Kay
I had seen a graphical representation where you were able to stop and start services. Is this systemadm? Is this something that we can see in 11.4 but more useful? And if it is, can we see this added to Yast in the future?
There are no plans currently from the systemd upstream side to extend this tool. We all use the command line version: systemctl and systemctl status <service> and systemd-cgls Systemctl also got color output and bash-completion. :) It presents more information than the gtk tool in some areas. Systemadm is really not much more than an example what *could* be done today for service management, compared to SYSV/LSB, which provided exactly zero information or service tracking, besides some mostly useless and rather random human-readable console messages. If people want to improve systemadm, it's more than welcome, but it's usefulness will probably stay limited.
Btw. With systemd, I was able to shave off 15 -20 sec. when booting to desktop. And, the shutdown is very fast!!
Sounds great. Thanks, Kay -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 11/15/2010 02:32 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:08 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote:
On 11/15/2010 01:53 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 13:41 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote:
Dear Listmates,
I have also installed systemd and systemd-Gtk which should allow the me as user to see systemd in graphical format.
Has any one been successful in viewing the gui portion?
It's called 'systemadm', but not very useful at the moment.
It's just a pretty dumb client for the systemd D-Bus interface and not much more than an example or starting point for a possible future system service management interface.
Kay
I had seen a graphical representation where you were able to stop and start services. Is this systemadm? Is this something that we can see in 11.4 but more useful? And if it is, can we see this added to Yast in the future?
There are no plans currently from the systemd upstream side to extend this tool.
We all use the command line version: systemctl and systemctl status <service> and systemd-cgls
Systemctl also got color output and bash-completion. :) It presents more information than the gtk tool in some areas.
Systemadm is really not much more than an example what *could* be done today for service management, compared to SYSV/LSB, which provided exactly zero information or service tracking, besides some mostly useless and rather random human-readable console messages.
If people want to improve systemadm, it's more than welcome, but it's usefulness will probably stay limited.
Btw. With systemd, I was able to shave off 15 -20 sec. when booting to desktop. And, the shutdown is very fast!!
Sounds great.
Thanks, Kay
I agree. I am also using systemctl. It much faster in konsole mode. However, VFS showed that it FAILED. Bug? -- Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:47 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote:
I agree. I am also using systemctl. It much faster in konsole mode. However, VFS showed that it FAILED. Bug?
VFS? You mean a line in 'systemctl' output tells something has failed? The first column is the service name. What does: systemctl status <the full name from the first column> print? You might need to use: 'systemctl --full' to see the full name. Kay -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 11/15/2010 03:00 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:47 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote:
I agree. I am also using systemctl. It much faster in konsole mode. However, VFS showed that it FAILED. Bug?
VFS? You mean a line in 'systemctl' output tells something has failed?
The first column is the service name. What does: systemctl status <the full name from the first column> print?
You might need to use: 'systemctl --full' to see the full name.
Kay
Presently, I'm in openSUSE 11.3. I'll reboot into 11.4 M3 and try it out. -- Thanks, Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 11/15/2010 03:00 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:47 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote:
I agree. I am also using systemctl. It much faster in konsole mode. However, VFS showed that it FAILED. Bug?
VFS? You mean a line in 'systemctl' output tells something has failed?
The first column is the service name. What does: systemctl status <the full name from the first column> print?
You might need to use: 'systemctl --full' to see the full name.
Kay
I ran systemctl --full. The following failed. systemd-remount-api-vfs.service loaded failed failed Remount API VFS -- Thanks! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:19 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote:
On 11/15/2010 03:00 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:47 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote:
I agree. I am also using systemctl. It much faster in konsole mode. However, VFS showed that it FAILED. Bug?
VFS? You mean a line in 'systemctl' output tells something has failed?
The first column is the service name. What does: systemctl status <the full name from the first column> print?
You might need to use: 'systemctl --full' to see the full name.
Kay
I ran systemctl --full. The following failed.
systemd-remount-api-vfs.service loaded failed failed Remount API VFS
Ah, "Remount API VFS" is the human-readable description. The actual service is called: systemd-remount-api-vfs.service, and you can get the details with: systemctl status systemd-remount-api-vfs.service The bug is fixed already: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/commit/?id=57f2a956e63d6b981b9d6277ab800... Kay -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 11/15/2010 03:26 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:19 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote:
On 11/15/2010 03:00 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:47 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote:
I agree. I am also using systemctl. It much faster in konsole mode. However, VFS showed that it FAILED. Bug?
VFS? You mean a line in 'systemctl' output tells something has failed?
The first column is the service name. What does: systemctl status <the full name from the first column> print?
You might need to use: 'systemctl --full' to see the full name.
Kay
I ran systemctl --full. The following failed.
systemd-remount-api-vfs.service loaded failed failed Remount API VFS
Ah, "Remount API VFS" is the human-readable description. The actual service is called: systemd-remount-api-vfs.service, and you can get the details with: systemctl status systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
The bug is fixed already: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/commit/?id=57f2a956e63d6b981b9d6277ab800...
Kay
Sounds good. When can we see this? Factory is frozen. I assume this will be in Milestone 4? Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:40 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote:
On 11/15/2010 03:26 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
systemd-remount-api-vfs.service loaded failed failed Remount API VFS
Ah, "Remount API VFS" is the human-readable description. The actual service is called: systemd-remount-api-vfs.service, and you can get the details with: systemctl status systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
The bug is fixed already: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/commit/?id=57f2a956e63d6b981b9d6277ab800...
Sounds good. When can we see this? Factory is frozen. I assume this will be in Milestone 4?
It's only in Base:System now: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=systemd&project=Base%3ASystem It will got into Factory with the next update. Kay -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 11/15/2010 04:08 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:40 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote:
On 11/15/2010 03:26 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
systemd-remount-api-vfs.service loaded failed failed Remount API VFS
Ah, "Remount API VFS" is the human-readable description. The actual service is called: systemd-remount-api-vfs.service, and you can get the details with: systemctl status systemd-remount-api-vfs.service
The bug is fixed already: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/commit/?id=57f2a956e63d6b981b9d6277ab800...
Sounds good. When can we see this? Factory is frozen. I assume this will be in Milestone 4?
It's only in Base:System now: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=systemd&project=Base%3ASystem
It will got into Factory with the next update.
Kay
Sounds good. I'm looking forward to the final integration of systemd with openSUSE 11.4 Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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