[opensuse-factory] Speeding up SRs process to devel projects
Hi, I have made SR# 115787 to Publishing for dblatex which is a version update. However after almost a month it is still waiting for decision. As the beta is coming in soon I am not sure if this package if approved by the devel project will go to factory in a timely manner, but the real problem is I do not thing I am the only one in this situation, so the question what can be done in situations where the upstream ( in this case the devel project or the package maintainer) is lagging in the process of SR's Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 22.05.2012 16:43, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
Hi,
I have made SR# 115787 to Publishing for dblatex which is a version update. However after almost a month it is still waiting for decision.
As the beta is coming in soon I am not sure if this package if approved by the devel project will go to factory in a timely manner, but the real problem is I do not thing I am the only one in this situation, so the question what can be done in situations where the upstream ( in this case the devel project or the package maintainer) is lagging in the process of SR's
From time to time I go and set people as maintainers that have shown interest (and patience :), but I can't do that all day long. There are 12 maintainers in Publishing and I even send reminder mails to
I'm just as frustrated as you are, but as a matter of fact we have orphaned packages where the project maintainers don't even bother to add people to the package maintenance. maintainers about old requests - but still this is a very common situation ;( obs-autosubmit was the solution for (lazy) developers not submitting their packages to factory, perhaps we need some obs-autoaccept too - unless someone does have a good alternative. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
2012/5/22 Stephan Kulow
obs-autosubmit was the solution for (lazy) developers not submitting their packages to factory
Could you enlighten me how this works, obs-autosubmit just submitted some cleanup changes to factory, which were IMO not worth a review process. The changes are fine, it was just surprising to see it autosubmitted. (sr#121599) Sometimes I also have testing releases in devel which I not necessary want to give factory team workload of review but still want some bigger test circle... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 24.05.2012 12:16, Ammler wrote:
2012/5/22 Stephan Kulow
: obs-autosubmit was the solution for (lazy) developers not submitting their packages to factory
Could you enlighten me how this works, obs-autosubmit just submitted some cleanup changes to factory, which were IMO not worth a review process. The changes are fine, it was just surprising to see it autosubmitted. (sr#121599)
Sometimes I also have testing releases in devel which I not necessary want to give factory team workload of review but still want some bigger test circle...
You can disable autosubmit temporarly or forever: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-packaging/2012-02/msg00003.html Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
2012/5/24 Stephan Kulow
On 24.05.2012 12:16, Ammler wrote:
2012/5/22 Stephan Kulow
: obs-autosubmit was the solution for (lazy) developers not submitting their packages to factory
Could you enlighten me how this works,
You can disable autosubmit temporarly or forever: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-packaging/2012-02/msg00003.html
I expected it is possible to disable, but I more wonder, when obs-autosubmit takes effect if enabled, it is not the worst thing to submit "forgotten" changes, e.g. auto-submit 10 days old changes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 24.05.2012 13:31, Ammler wrote:
2012/5/24 Stephan Kulow
: On 24.05.2012 12:16, Ammler wrote:
2012/5/22 Stephan Kulow
: obs-autosubmit was the solution for (lazy) developers not submitting their packages to factory
Could you enlighten me how this works,
You can disable autosubmit temporarly or forever: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-packaging/2012-02/msg00003.html
I expected it is possible to disable, but I more wonder, when obs-autosubmit takes effect if enabled, it is not the worst thing to submit "forgotten" changes, e.g. auto-submit 10 days old changes
It is submitting 7 days old changes Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
it could be abused as workflow, 10 days no feedback means the update is fine --> submit, maybe it would be nice to notify the last author -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Togan Muftuoglu
Hi,
I have made SR# 115787 to Publishing for dblatex which is a version update. However after almost a month it is still waiting for decision.
As the beta is coming in soon I am not sure if this package if approved by the devel project will go to factory in a timely manner, but the real problem is I do not thing I am the only one in this situation, so the question what can be done in situations where the upstream ( in this case the devel project or the package maintainer) is lagging in the process of SR's
Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, Togan, relax and have a cup of tea... everyone is rushing for the beta...so no one will lag your SR on purpose... actually our OBS is becoming worse everyday recently ( I noticed it didn't move any single step for almost four hours today afternoon) according to coolo...autobuild team take that as the first priority...or we'll have no beta... patience will help a lot, I think... marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 22.05.2012 16:51, Marguerite Su wrote:
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Togan Muftuoglu
wrote: Hi,
I have made SR# 115787 to Publishing for dblatex which is a version update. However after almost a month it is still waiting for decision.
As the beta is coming in soon I am not sure if this package if approved by the devel project will go to factory in a timely manner, but the real problem is I do not thing I am the only one in this situation, so the question what can be done in situations where the upstream ( in this case the devel project or the package maintainer) is lagging in the process of SR's
Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, Togan,
relax and have a cup of tea... Yes relax is good, but after a month it's very valid to raise it (here). You can drink a lot of cups in a month ;)
everyone is rushing for the beta...so no one will lag your SR on purpose...
actually our OBS is becoming worse everyday recently ( I noticed it didn't move any single step for almost four hours today afternoon) according to coolo...autobuild team take that as the first priority...or we'll have no beta...
patience will help a lot, I think...
Actually it's pretty warm outside and in this little office we had 7 people - and noone really understands what's going on. Linux sucks! :) Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/22/2012 04:51 PM, Marguerite Su wrote:
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Togan Muftuoglu
wrote: Hi,
I have made SR# 115787 to Publishing for dblatex which is a version update. However after almost a month it is still waiting for decision.
As the beta is coming in soon I am not sure if this package if approved by the devel project will go to factory in a timely manner, but the real problem is I do not thing I am the only one in this situation, so the question what can be done in situations where the upstream ( in this case the devel project or the package maintainer) is lagging in the process of SR's
Hi, Togan,
relax and have a cup of tea...
I am relaxed as I am using the package anyway (not in the devel or factory is not an issue since it is available in my home project) but can others use it as well
everyone is rushing for the beta...so no one will lag your SR on purpose...
I am sure it is not on purpose however beta is key thing why ship an old package when the newer version is there
actually our OBS is becoming worse everyday recently ( I noticed it didn't move any single step for almost four hours today afternoon) according to coolo...autobuild team take that as the first priority...or we'll have no beta...
patience will help a lot, I think...
Has nothing to do with patience Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 04:43:12PM +0200, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
Hi,
I have made SR# 115787 to Publishing for dblatex which is a version update. However after almost a month it is still waiting for decision.
As the beta is coming in soon I am not sure if this package if approved by the devel project will go to factory in a timely manner, but the real problem is I do not thing I am the only one in this situation, so the question what can be done in situations where the upstream ( in this case the devel project or the package maintainer) is lagging in the process of SR's
Sorry for the delay as I'm was bussy with the project Publishing:TeXLive Werner -- "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool." -- Edward Burr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/22/2012 05:08 PM, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 04:43:12PM +0200, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
Hi,
I have made SR# 115787 to Publishing for dblatex which is a version update. However after almost a month it is still waiting for decision.
As the beta is coming in soon I am not sure if this package if approved by the devel project will go to factory in a timely manner, but the real problem is I do not thing I am the only one in this situation, so the question what can be done in situations where the upstream ( in this case the devel project or the package maintainer) is lagging in the process of SR's
Sorry for the delay as I'm was bussy with the project Publishing:TeXLive
Thanks Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 5/22/2012 11:12 AM, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
On 05/22/2012 05:08 PM, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 04:43:12PM +0200, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
Hi,
I have made SR# 115787 to Publishing for dblatex which is a version update. However after almost a month it is still waiting for decision.
As the beta is coming in soon I am not sure if this package if approved by the devel project will go to factory in a timely manner, but the real problem is I do not thing I am the only one in this situation, so the question what can be done in situations where the upstream ( in this case the devel project or the package maintainer) is lagging in the process of SR's
Sorry for the delay as I'm was bussy with the project Publishing:TeXLive
Thanks
Togan
Similarly I have given up on seeing jbig support in tifflib and hylafax etc in 12.2 or possibly even the next release after that. 6 weeks and counting... https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/113336 I also have a tiff SR already in, but they are waiting for jbig to get into factory first before they can accept the tiff SR just into the tiff devel project let alone from there into factory. At this rate jbig won't be in factory until the middle of 12.2 life cycle, and tiff won't be actually using jbig until factory during 12.3 life cycle, and won't be in an actual release until 12.4 / 13.1 ! I prefer to treat people the way I want to be treated, so I didn't bother anyone, trusting that the obs sent them an email and that they are working through their lists in order, and I don't have to worry about mine getting lost, and so bothering people would only slow things down by distracting them from working through the stuff in front of me, not to mention simply annoying them. Then when I finally did ask, they told me to just have patience too, so I have not mentioned it again till now. I'm willing, but having patience and not bothering anyone hasn't been a working tactic lately. -- bkw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Similarly I have given up on seeing jbig support in tifflib and hylafax etc in 12.2 or possibly even the next release after that.
6 weeks and counting...
https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/113336
I also have a tiff SR already in, but they are waiting for jbig to get into factory first before they can accept the tiff SR just into the tiff devel project let alone from there into factory. At this rate jbig won't be in factory until the middle of 12.2 life cycle, and tiff won't be actually using jbig until factory during 12.3 life cycle, and won't be in an actual release until 12.4 / 13.1 !
I prefer to treat people the way I want to be treated, so I didn't bother anyone, trusting that the obs sent them an email and that they are working through their lists in order, and I don't have to worry about mine getting lost, and so bothering people would only slow things down by distracting them from working through the stuff in front of me, not to mention simply annoying them.
Then when I finally did ask, they told me to just have patience too, so I have not mentioned it again till now.
Hi Brian, This is a slightly different case though - it's about legal review in factory. We only have one person doing it and he other things to do as well. So things tend to pile up pretty high for him. I'm not really sure what the problem with jbigkit is - it's by far the oldest request in the queue and it looks like pretty normal GPL and isn't even large (the two usual things that make legal review complicated). So I can only guess it was really overlooked - among the other 90 requests for legal review. I'll raise a flag. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 5/24/2012 11:49 PM, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Similarly I have given up on seeing jbig support in tifflib and hylafax etc in 12.2 or possibly even the next release after that.
6 weeks and counting...
https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/113336 [...] I prefer to treat people the way I want to be treated, so I didn't [...] mentioned it again till now.
Hi Brian,
This is a slightly different case though - it's about legal review in [...] - among the other 90 requests for legal review. I'll raise a flag.
Greetings, Stephan
Thanks for both the illumination and the bump. I appreciate it. -- bkw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 25 May 2012 04:49, Stephan Kulow
I'm not really sure what the problem with jbigkit is - it's by far the oldest request in the queue
No, it's not. My SR#112067 wins by 12 days ;-) Really, just delete pysol (a noise generator more than a game). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 26.05.2012 19:00, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
On 25 May 2012 04:49, Stephan Kulow
wrote: I'm not really sure what the problem with jbigkit is - it's by far the oldest request in the queue
No, it's not. My SR#112067 wins by 12 days ;-) Really, just delete pysol (a noise generator more than a game).
That's not in legal queue - it's in review by user matejcik and if Jan does not log into build.opensuse.org to check his reviews, he won't notice ;( Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 29 May 2012 11:10, Stephan Kulow
On 26.05.2012 19:00, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
On 25 May 2012 04:49, Stephan Kulow
wrote: I'm not really sure what the problem with jbigkit is - it's by far the oldest request in the queue
No, it's not. My SR#112067 wins by 12 days ;-) Really, just delete pysol (a noise generator more than a game).
That's not in legal queue - it's in review by user matejcik and if Jan does not log into build.opensuse.org to check his reviews, he won't notice ;(
The funny thing is that a delete request was sent for a package that seems unmaintained, and the maintainer set as reviewer... but if it is soooo unmaintained that the "maintainer" (probably the OBS metadata is outdated anyway) doesn't answer it's going to stay there. Looks like a hole in the process that would make Factory have maintained and veeeery unmaintained packages, but not plain unmaintained ones. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 29.05.2012 12:29, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
On 29 May 2012 11:10, Stephan Kulow
wrote: On 26.05.2012 19:00, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
On 25 May 2012 04:49, Stephan Kulow
wrote: I'm not really sure what the problem with jbigkit is - it's by far the oldest request in the queue
No, it's not. My SR#112067 wins by 12 days ;-) Really, just delete pysol (a noise generator more than a game).
That's not in legal queue - it's in review by user matejcik and if Jan does not log into build.opensuse.org to check his reviews, he won't notice ;(
The funny thing is that a delete request was sent for a package that seems unmaintained, and the maintainer set as reviewer... but if it is soooo unmaintained that the "maintainer" (probably the OBS metadata is outdated anyway) doesn't answer it's going to stay there. Looks like a hole in the process that would make Factory have maintained and veeeery unmaintained packages, but not plain unmaintained ones.
Aehm, what process - RedDwarf (that's you, correct?) added that review by user matjecik. So _you_ wanted the delete request to wait for that review, so don't complain now that the review is pending. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 29 May 2012 13:08, Stephan Kulow
On 29.05.2012 12:29, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
On 29 May 2012 11:10, Stephan Kulow
wrote: On 26.05.2012 19:00, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
On 25 May 2012 04:49, Stephan Kulow
wrote: I'm not really sure what the problem with jbigkit is - it's by far the oldest request in the queue
No, it's not. My SR#112067 wins by 12 days ;-) Really, just delete pysol (a noise generator more than a game).
That's not in legal queue - it's in review by user matejcik and if Jan does not log into build.opensuse.org to check his reviews, he won't notice ;(
The funny thing is that a delete request was sent for a package that seems unmaintained, and the maintainer set as reviewer... but if it is soooo unmaintained that the "maintainer" (probably the OBS metadata is outdated anyway) doesn't answer it's going to stay there. Looks like a hole in the process that would make Factory have maintained and veeeery unmaintained packages, but not plain unmaintained ones.
Aehm, what process - RedDwarf (that's you, correct?) added that review by user matjecik. So _you_ wanted the delete request to wait for that review, so don't complain now that the review is pending.
IMHO asking the maintainer if it's OK to delete his package from Factory is basic courtesy. Who is supposed to decide otherwise? Anyway, not complains here. I supposed after so long you may have wanted to ignore the review and just delete it (no idea, perhaps Jan wasn't in Suse any more or something like that). But if you prefer to wait, even after 12.2, it's OK with me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 29.05.2012 14:23, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
IMHO asking the maintainer if it's OK to delete his package from Factory is basic courtesy. Who is supposed to decide otherwise? Anyway, not complains here. I supposed after so long you may have wanted to ignore the review and just delete it (no idea, perhaps Jan wasn't in Suse any more or something like that). But if you prefer to wait, even after 12.2, it's OK with me.
What you seem to miss: if it's in review by someone else, it's not on my plate. So revoke the request and create a new one without the review by user Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 29 May 2012 13:33, Stephan Kulow
On 29.05.2012 14:23, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
IMHO asking the maintainer if it's OK to delete his package from Factory is basic courtesy. Who is supposed to decide otherwise? Anyway, not complains here. I supposed after so long you may have wanted to ignore the review and just delete it (no idea, perhaps Jan wasn't in Suse any more or something like that). But if you prefer to wait, even after 12.2, it's OK with me.
What you seem to miss: if it's in review by someone else, it's not on my plate. So revoke the request and create a new one without the review by user
IIRC a SR can be accepted/rejected ignoring a review. Anyway... SR#122739. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2012-05-22 at 17:08 +0200, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
Sorry for the delay as I'm was bussy with the project Publishing:TeXLive
Speaking of TeXLive, xelatex seems to have been broken with a recent zlib update: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=763565 and has been fixed upstream: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3484935&group_id=194926&atid=951385 -- Evan McClain
participants (8)
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Ammler
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Brian K. White
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Cristian Morales Vega
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Dr. Werner Fink
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Evan McClain
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Marguerite Su
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Stephan Kulow
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Togan Muftuoglu