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Frank Krüger

14 Jun 2017 14 Jun '17

20:19

I have installed Leap 42.3 build 0277 via "zypper dup", with multiversion.kernels and the kernel stable repo enabled. Rebooting and applying the purge-kernels service removes the standard kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3 as expected. However, using "zypper dup" tries to install the standard kernel again. With leap 42.2 I have never experienced such an issue. What do I miss? Regards, Frank -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Neil Rickert

15 Jun 15 Jun

01:53

On 06/14/2017 03:19 PM, Frank Krüger wrote:

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Rebooting and applying the purge-kernels service removes the standard kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3 as expected. However, using "zypper dup" tries to install the standard kernel again.

That's not quite right. The previous kernel was actually "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.2". That was replaced by "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3". The new kernel is a recompile of the same kernel as before. The two cannot co-exist. Both of them will have the kernel stored as "/boot/kernel-default-4.4.69-2", and that would give a conflict. So the older kernel was actually removed by "zypper" during your update. The "purge-kernels" service did not have anything to do. You are probably right, that you have not seen this happen with 42.2. But we do often see it happen with Tumbleweed. Once the final release of 42.3 is out, you probably won't see this happen. But the development is being handled similarly to Tumbleweed, so these recompiles may occur again during the development phase. I hope that helps explain what you are seeing, and why it isn't a problem. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Frank Krüger

07:10

Am 15.06.2017 um 03:53 schrieb Neil Rickert:

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On 06/14/2017 03:19 PM, Frank Krüger wrote:

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Rebooting and applying the purge-kernels service removes the standard kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3 as expected. However, using "zypper dup" tries to install the standard kernel again.

That's not quite right.

The previous kernel was actually "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.2". That was replaced by "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3" I did not have kernel-default-4.4.69-2.2 installed before (see below)

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The new kernel is a recompile of the same kernel as before. The two cannot co-exist. Both of them will have the kernel stored as "/boot/kernel-default-4.4.69-2", and that would give a conflict. So the older kernel was actually removed by "zypper" during your update. The "purge-kernels" service did not have anything to do.

You are probably right, that you have not seen this happen with 42.2. But we do often see it happen with Tumbleweed. Once the final release of 42.3 is out, you probably won't see this happen. But the development is being handled similarly to Tumbleweed, so these recompiles may occur again during the development phase.

I hope that helps explain what you are seeing, and why it isn't a problem.

Thank you for your explanation. The issue I experience, however, is the following (using kernel stable repo): rpm -q kernel-default: kernel-default-4.11.4-1.1.gcba98ee.x86_64 kernel-default-4.11.5-1.1.g8ffa6bb.x86_64 as expected, since I have multiversion.kernels = latest,latest-1,running. Applying "zypper dup" pulls in kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3, which will be removed after a reboot with purge-kernels.service. This does not make sense at all in my opinion. Any idea? Regards, Frank -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

09:33

On 2017-06-15 09:10, Frank Krüger wrote:

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Thank you for your explanation. The issue I experience, however, is the following (using kernel stable repo):

rpm -q kernel-default: kernel-default-4.11.4-1.1.gcba98ee.x86_64 kernel-default-4.11.5-1.1.g8ffa6bb.x86_64

as expected, since I have multiversion.kernels = latest,latest-1,running.

Applying "zypper dup" pulls in kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3,

dependencies, surely. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink

09:50

Op donderdag 15 juni 2017 09:10:42 CEST schreef Frank Krüger:

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Am 15.06.2017 um 03:53 schrieb Neil Rickert:

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On 06/14/2017 03:19 PM, Frank Krüger wrote:

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Rebooting and applying the purge-kernels service removes the standard kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3 as expected. However, using "zypper dup" tries to install the standard kernel again.

That's not quite right.

The previous kernel was actually "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.2". That was replaced by "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3"

I did not have kernel-default-4.4.69-2.2 installed before (see below)

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The new kernel is a recompile of the same kernel as before. The two cannot co-exist. Both of them will have the kernel stored as "/boot/kernel-default-4.4.69-2", and that would give a conflict. So the older kernel was actually removed by "zypper" during your update. The "purge-kernels" service did not have anything to do.

You are probably right, that you have not seen this happen with 42.2. But we do often see it happen with Tumbleweed. Once the final release of 42.3 is out, you probably won't see this happen. But the development is being handled similarly to Tumbleweed, so these recompiles may occur again during the development phase.

I hope that helps explain what you are seeing, and why it isn't a problem.

Thank you for your explanation. The issue I experience, however, is the following (using kernel stable repo):

rpm -q kernel-default: kernel-default-4.11.4-1.1.gcba98ee.x86_64 kernel-default-4.11.5-1.1.g8ffa6bb.x86_64

as expected, since I have multiversion.kernels = latest,latest-1,running.

Applying "zypper dup" pulls in kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3, which will be removed after a reboot with purge-kernels.service. This does not make sense at all in my opinion.

Any idea?

Regards, Frank

That's because you haven't done a vendor switch to the kernel:stable repo a 'zypper dup --from "YourKernelRepo" ' should fix that AFAIK. After doing this zypper will know that kernel-default should come from the Kernel:Stable repo and not install the distribution one. -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Frank Krüger

16 Jun 16 Jun

08:06

Am 15.06.2017 um 11:50 schrieb Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink:

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Am 15.06.2017 um 03:53 schrieb Neil Rickert:

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On 06/14/2017 03:19 PM, Frank Krüger wrote:

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Rebooting and applying the purge-kernels service removes the standard kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3 as expected. However, using "zypper dup" tries to install the standard kernel again.

That's not quite right.

The previous kernel was actually "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.2". That was replaced by "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3" I did not have kernel-default-4.4.69-2.2 installed before (see below)

...
The new kernel is a recompile of the same kernel as before. The two cannot co-exist. Both of them will have the kernel stored as "/boot/kernel-default-4.4.69-2", and that would give a conflict. So the older kernel was actually removed by "zypper" during your update. The "purge-kernels" service did not have anything to do.

You are probably right, that you have not seen this happen with 42.2. But we do often see it happen with Tumbleweed. Once the final release of 42.3 is out, you probably won't see this happen. But the development is being handled similarly to Tumbleweed, so these recompiles may occur again during the development phase.

I hope that helps explain what you are seeing, and why it isn't a problem.

Thank you for your explanation. The issue I experience, however, is the following (using kernel stable repo):

rpm -q kernel-default: kernel-default-4.11.4-1.1.gcba98ee.x86_64 kernel-default-4.11.5-1.1.g8ffa6bb.x86_64

as expected, since I have multiversion.kernels = latest,latest-1,running.

Applying "zypper dup" pulls in kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3, which will be removed after a reboot with purge-kernels.service. This does not make sense at all in my opinion.

That's because you haven't done a vendor switch to the kernel:stable repo a " ' should fix that AFAIK. After doing this zypper will know that kernel-default should come from the Kernel:Stable repo and not install the distribution one.

Using 'zypper dup --from "Kernel Stable Standard Repo"', as you suggested, did not fix the "problem". Thanks anyway. Regards, Frank -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Andreas Schwab

19 Jun 19 Jun

07:08

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

On Jun 15 2017, Frank Krüger wrote:

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Thank you for your explanation. The issue I experience, however, is the following (using kernel stable repo):

Do you have that repo enabled? Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Frank Krüger

18:01

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

Am 19.06.2017 um 09:08 schrieb Andreas Schwab:

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On Jun 15 2017, Frank Krüger wrote:

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Thank you for your explanation. The issue I experience, however, is the following (using kernel stable repo):

Do you have that repo enabled?

Andreas.

Yes, I have enabled http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard, besides the 42.3 oss/non-oss repos, with same priority. Regards, Frank -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink

21:24

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

Op maandag 19 juni 2017 20:01:45 CEST schreef Frank Krüger:

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Am 19.06.2017 um 09:08 schrieb Andreas Schwab:

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On Jun 15 2017, Frank Krüger wrote:

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Thank you for your explanation. The issue I experience, however, is

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the following (using kernel stable repo): Do you have that repo enabled?

Andreas.

Yes, I have enabled http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard, besides the 42.3 oss/non-oss repos, with same priority.

Regards, Frank

Did you do a 'zypper dup' from that repo? -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Frank Krüger

21:26

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

Am 19.06.2017 um 23:24 schrieb Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink:

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Op maandag 19 juni 2017 20:01:45 CEST schreef Frank Krüger:

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Am 19.06.2017 um 09:08 schrieb Andreas Schwab:

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On Jun 15 2017, Frank Krüger wrote:

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Thank you for your explanation. The issue I experience, however, is

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the following (using kernel stable repo): Do you have that repo enabled?

Andreas.

Yes, I have enabled http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard, besides the 42.3 oss/non-oss repos, with same priority.

Regards, Frank

Did you do a 'zypper dup' from that repo?

Yes, I did. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Frank Krüger

25 Jun 25 Jun

11:31

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

Am 19.06.2017 um 23:26 schrieb Frank Krüger:

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Am 19.06.2017 um 23:24 schrieb Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink:

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Op maandag 19 juni 2017 20:01:45 CEST schreef Frank Krüger:

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Am 19.06.2017 um 09:08 schrieb Andreas Schwab:

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On Jun 15 2017, Frank Krüger wrote:

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Thank you for your explanation. The issue I experience, however, is

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the following (using kernel stable repo): Do you have that repo enabled?

Andreas.

Yes, I have enabled http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard, besides the 42.3 oss/non-oss repos, with same priority.

Regards, Frank

Did you do a 'zypper dup' from that repo?

Yes, I did.

FYI, tabooing drm-kmp-default solved my issue. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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