[opensuse-factory] question about OpenSUSE and Mondo Rescue Disaster Recovery Tool
https://www.tecmint.com/how-to-clone-linux-systems/comment-page-7/#comment-9... Backup with Mondo Rescue Disaster Recovery Tool is not a problem but restore will NEVER work right?. "UUID" keys for HD, fstab, linux partition etc. Are these randomly generated on linux system? so if you restore a backup with mondo it will never work because UUID keys will be random re-genreated during boot. André ----- ____________________________________________________ Dank U.. Thank You.. My Twitter Page: http://twitter.com/OpenSimFan My Facebook page (be my friend, please ) http://www.facebook.com/andre.verwijs My Google+ page (follow me please ) André Verwijs - Google+ . -- Sent from: http://opensuse.14.x6.nabble.com/opensuse-factory-f3292933.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2017-11-09 at 04:28 -0700, Verwijs wrote:
https://www.tecmint.com/how-to-clone-linux-systems/comment-page-7/#comment-9...
Backup with Mondo Rescue Disaster Recovery Tool is not a problem but restore will NEVER work right?. "UUID" keys for HD, fstab, linux partition etc. Are these randomly generated on linux system? so if you restore a backup with mondo it will never work because UUID keys will be random re-genreated during boot.
I don't remember exactly how Mondo worked, but: UUIDs are created when formatting a partition (mkfs.*) If the clone is done as an image of the old system, it will work. If the clone is a copy of the contents, ie, the files of the old system, it will not work. This is something that should be documented at the mondo site. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloEQoUACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UBMgCeMmP0PtWjpLORGK34ir+olm+y ibQAn2/kHIP31PeJZ7dfNk/xatR+C1oi =2tVb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
thank you.. i'm not using it, a better choice would be: - Clonezilla (free) - Acronis True Image 2018 (not free) - AOMEI Disk Clone (free) to name a few... but the best way is to backup your personal files to external drive and re-install (opensuse)linux from scratch... André ----- ____________________________________________________ Dank U.. Thank You.. My Twitter Page: http://twitter.com/OpenSimFan My Facebook page (be my friend, please ) http://www.facebook.com/andre.verwijs My Google+ page (follow me please ) André Verwijs - Google+ . -- Sent from: http://opensuse.14.x6.nabble.com/opensuse-factory-f3292933.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, On Nov 9 06:17 Verwijs wrote (excerpt):
...the best way is to backup your personal files to external drive and re-install (opensuse)linux from scratch...
...which is what Relax-and-Recover (ReaR) does, see https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Disaster_Recovery For an initial overview you may have a look at https://en.opensuse.org/images/8/85/Essentials_about_disaster_recovery_with_... But ReaR basically requires "same hardware", i.e. it is not primarily intended when your laptop has fallen down the stairs and you "just bought" another one in the next shop. There is no such thing as a disaster recovery solution that "just works". Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX GmbH - GF: Felix Imendoerffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton - HRB 21284 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op donderdag 9 november 2017 14:17:18 CET schreef Verwijs:
thank you..
i'm not using it, a better choice would be: - Clonezilla (free) - Acronis True Image 2018 (not free) - AOMEI Disk Clone (free) to name a few...
but the best way is to backup your personal files to external drive and re-install (opensuse)linux from scratch...
That's what I do on my local machines, not on production machines/VM's. User data first.
André
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On my own machines I don't clone/snapshot disks. I do sync to my own nextcloud server, backup to external disk over the local network A thing one can do, is use luckybackup or some other rsync based GUI tool and backup /etc /var . -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, verwijs, i don't know this tool, i make dd (or dd rescue) backups of whole hdd's / partitions. it need this here to work after restoring: posibility 1: (may have also his disadvantage) (used for ext3/4 and reiserfs without gpt) (with new, same size or bigger size hardrive at same mainboard) always install your opensuse in beginning of installation process by hardrive experts options, and select there by default link with "drive name" fstab looks like this (only example): /dev/nvme0n1p1 ext4 noatime,acl,user_xattr 1 1 or /dev/hda2 / reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 1 posibility 2: if standart opensuse installation (using id / uuid?) and fstab look like this: /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST31000524NS_9WK4DF3V-part2 / ext4 acl,user_xattr 1 1 (i am not shure if this describtion here will still work with verry new opensuse versions - its about 2 years in past i have had last time writing back a backup): the haddrive who has to be backuped (before you have a problem): ll /dev/disk/by-id/ > to-a-safe-place.txt (or if installed with option uuid ll /dev/disk/by-uuid > to-a-safe-place.txt) after you have installed your backup: boot with a live cd (as example systemrescue-cd) ll /dev/disk/by-id/ > to-compare-with-above.txt check and change all positions where the old names are in: (this list maybe not complete, so please search the files with the searchstring's from to-a-safe-palce.txt) /boot/grub device.map /boot grub menue.lst /etc/sysconfig/bootloader /etc/fstab if you backuped your boot drive you have to change also inside the initramdisk maybe here: /boot/initrd symlinked to /boot/initrd-3.0.101-102-desktop copy it to empty directory and unpack ist: gunzip -c initrd-3.0.101-102-desktop | cpio -i delete the old initrd inside this directory. search as described above and change all: ./run_all.sh ./config/mount.sh ./config/storage.sh rename or delete the old initrd inside /boot pack all topgether with find . | cpio -H newc -o | gzip -9 > /boot/initrd-3.0.101-102-desktop now system should ;-))) start again. there maybe easier ways to do this: (i used to run "real opensuse computer with only one harddrive" inside virtual machine - after throwing away verry old hardware) copy your whole harddrive to a image, start a kvm with this image, it will not start, but asked you some questions, say always "n" you will get a prompt. then cd /dev/disk/by-id mv "the existing names" "correct-names" exit should boot for only now. now inside the files /etc/fstab und /boot/grub/menu.1st chaninge names mkdinitrd (some warings appear) after another start: inside /boot/grub/device.map also changed names mkinitrd now starting without problems. simoN ps: make a file backup for userdata-files in addition my also be useful..... Am 09.11.2017 um 12:28 schrieb Verwijs:
https://www.tecmint.com/how-to-clone-linux-systems/comment-page-7/#comment-9...
Backup with Mondo Rescue Disaster Recovery Tool is not a problem but restore will NEVER work right?. "UUID" keys for HD, fstab, linux partition etc. Are these randomly generated on linux system? so if you restore a backup with mondo it will never work because UUID keys will be random re-genreated during boot.
André
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thank for reply.. if this can be done with shell scrip, python, Perl or other program language, it would be easier. you will have to run it as admin or else it won't work... most important is *@home partition*, your personal files... maybe add some decent programs to "openSUSE (Tumbleweed) Rescue CD" witch actually work to recover data... André ----- ____________________________________________________ Dank U.. Thank You.. My Twitter Page: http://twitter.com/OpenSimFan My Facebook page (be my friend, please ) http://www.facebook.com/andre.verwijs My Google+ page (follow me please ) André Verwijs - Google+ . -- Sent from: http://opensuse.14.x6.nabble.com/opensuse-factory-f3292933.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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Carlos E. R.
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Johannes Meixner
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Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink
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Simon Becherer
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Verwijs