* Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar [09-12-17 07:35]:

On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 07:29 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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you might try instead editing the particular repo such as: baseurl=http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://distro.ibiblio.org/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://suse.mobile-central.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss / http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/

so you "specify" which mirrors are utilized.

http://software.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/

Not sure where you ever got this one from: but software.o.o does not host any repositories - this address is invalid

tks, don't know how that snuck in. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Am 12.09.2017 um 13:45 schrieb Roger Oberholtzer:

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Can I blacklist problematic mirrors?

you might try instead editing the particular repo such as: baseurl=http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://distro.ibiblio.org/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://suse.mobile-central.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss/ http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/

This works when running zypper in a regular environment where one can edit files. It does not work, afaik, when kiwi is managing it's own repo information for the images it is building. And that is my big stumbling block. If zypper had some ability to store (not just read) multiple URLs, then I would imagine the kiwi author could add support.

I'm not sure I fully understand what you're trying to do, but I think what you describe can be accomplished already. In a zypper configuration file (e.g. /etc/zypp/repos.d/repo.repo) you can specify "baseurl". IOW zypper should be able to store multiple repositories. As for Kiwi (even though slightly OT) you can specify as many repositories in your config.xml as you want to using the <repository> element (https://suse.github.io/kiwi/development/schema.html#id323) HTH -- Till -- Dipl.-Inform. Till Dörges doerges@pre-sense.de Tel. +49 - 40 - 244 2407 - 14 Fax +49 - 40 - 244 2407 - 24 PRESENSE Technologies GmbH Sachsenstr. 5, D-20097 HH Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors AG Hamburg, HRB 107844 Till Dörges, Jürgen Sander USt-IdNr.: DE263765024 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Den 2017-09-12 kl. 13:45, skrev Roger Oberholtzer:

does not use them. What does it take to be considered a mirror?

https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_redirector#So_how_does_it_wor... -- /bengan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Cristian Rodríguez [09-12-17 10:23]:

El 12-09-2017 a las 8:18, Roger Oberholtzer escribió:

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I am always fighting with mirrors. I supect it is because I am in Sweden and I get sent to bad local mirrors.

I have pretty much the same problem when getting packages in Chile.. for some ill-advised reason mirrorbrain thinks it should go to brazillian mirrors to get content.. this is most of the time slow and unreliable ..something that is completely expected and unsurprising. I understand mirrorbrain is not a person and does not get internet geopolitics or economics, it should ignore that mirror and go first to the US based mirrors then to the EU. kernel.org is a good bet. ISPs buy bandwidth to places where people get content from, not because the proximity of a country.;)

you may have good luck with kernel.orgbut my experience has been extremely negative from the US. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Arjen de Korte [09-12-17 14:43]:

Citeren Cristian Rodríguez :

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El 12-09-2017 a las 8:18, Roger Oberholtzer escribió:

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I am always fighting with mirrors. I supect it is because I am in Sweden and I get sent to bad local mirrors.

I have pretty much the same problem when getting packages in Chile.. for some ill-advised reason mirrorbrain thinks it should go to brazillian mirrors to get content.. this is most of the time slow and unreliable ..something that is completely expected and unsurprising. I understand mirrorbrain is not a person and does not get internet geopolitics or economics, it should ignore that mirror and go first to the US based mirrors then to the EU. kernel.org is a good bet. ISPs buy bandwidth to places where people get content from, not because the proximity of a country.;)

It would be great if it was possible to override the geolocation somehow. Mirrorbrain locates me in the US, so upgrades to my NL system take a transatlantic roundtrip, while much faster mirrors are available in DE.

then manually choose the mirror(s) you prefer in the order you prefer, ie: baseurl=http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://distro.ibiblio.org/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://suse.mobile-central.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss/ http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Den 2017-09-13 kl. 08:46, skrev Per Jessen:

Arjen de Korte wrote:

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It would be great if it was possible to override the geolocation somehow. Mirrorbrain locates me in the US, so upgrades to my NL system take a transatlantic roundtrip, while much faster mirrors are available in DE. The country code for your mailserver's IPv4-range quite clearly says NL, and looking it up here (on our local geoip database), also says NL.

However, looking your IPv6 address, it belongs to Hurricane Electric, in the US.

This is exactly why GeoIP is just above useless. The company I work for have about 1 million IP addresses (/12). Maxminds dabase is incorrect for us in about 15-20% of the cases (depending how Maxmind woke that morning). And that's just for country. For city it's useless for real. If you try to get Maxmind to change it's database your up for a roll-a-coaster ride. -- /bengan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Bengt Gördén wrote:

Den 2017-09-13 kl. 08:46, skrev Per Jessen:

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Arjen de Korte wrote:

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It would be great if it was possible to override the geolocation somehow. Mirrorbrain locates me in the US, so upgrades to my NL system take a transatlantic roundtrip, while much faster mirrors are available in DE. The country code for your mailserver's IPv4-range quite clearly says NL, and looking it up here (on our local geoip database), also says NL.

However, looking your IPv6 address, it belongs to Hurricane Electric, in the US.

This is exactly why GeoIP is just above useless. The company I work for have about 1 million IP addresses (/12). Maxminds dabase is incorrect for us in about 15-20% of the cases (depending how Maxmind woke that morning). And that's just for country. For city it's useless for real. If you try to get Maxmind to change it's database your up for a roll-a-coaster ride.

Actually, to get correct country mapping, the owner of an IP range just needs to create the appropriate objects in the RIPE database. (or whoever is allocating the ranges). -- Per Jessen, Zürich (13.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Bengt Gördén wrote:

Den 2017-09-13 kl. 09:40, skrev Per Jessen:

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Bengt Gördén wrote:

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Den 2017-09-13 kl. 08:46, skrev Per Jessen:

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Arjen de Korte wrote:

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It would be great if it was possible to override the geolocation somehow. Mirrorbrain locates me in the US, so upgrades to my NL system take a transatlantic roundtrip, while much faster mirrors are available in DE. The country code for your mailserver's IPv4-range quite clearly says NL, and looking it up here (on our local geoip database), also says NL.

However, looking your IPv6 address, it belongs to Hurricane Electric, in the US. This is exactly why GeoIP is just above useless. The company I work for have about 1 million IP addresses (/12). Maxminds dabase is incorrect for us in about 15-20% of the cases (depending how Maxmind woke that morning). And that's just for country. For city it's useless for real. If you try to get Maxmind to change it's database your up for a roll-a-coaster ride. Actually, to get correct country mapping, the owner of an IP range just needs to create the appropriate objects in the RIPE database. (or whoever is allocating the ranges).

No. It does not work like that. RIPE-db is at best considered if there is no other option. Trust me on this. Been doing IP registry for 23 years now.

Okay, how about explaining how it does work then? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (16.3°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Bengt Gördén wrote:

Den 2017-09-13 kl. 13:52, skrev Per Jessen:

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No. It does not work like that. RIPE-db is at best considered if there is no other option. Trust me on this. Been doing IP registry for 23 years now. Okay, how about explaining how it does work then?

It is empirical findings. Especially the country field in inetnum (see below). When it comes to Maxmind no one except Maxmind them self can say how it really works. But it is not country code in inetnum in ripe-db as a first criteria. Maybe the last one and sometimes even not that. Maxmind said in some old correspondence with me that they do traceroute and ping to triangulate the position of an IP address.

Unless the country information is stored elsewhere, eventually they would still need to consult ripe-db? Anyway, we're going off-topic. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (18.0°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Citeren Per Jessen :

Arjen de Korte wrote:

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It would be great if it was possible to override the geolocation somehow. Mirrorbrain locates me in the US, so upgrades to my NL system take a transatlantic roundtrip, while much faster mirrors are available in DE.

The country code for your mailserver's IPv4-range quite clearly says NL, and looking it up here (on our local geoip database), also says NL.

However, looking your IPv6 address, it belongs to Hurricane Electric, in the US.

Indeed, that server uses an 6in4 tunnel provided by Hurricane Electric. If there would be a way to force zypper to use IPv4 (or IPv6), it probably wouldn't be an issue though. For instance, when using wget or curl, adding a -4 on the commandline will force it to use IPv4, which in cases like these could be a solution. I would prefer that over having to manually select nearby mirrors, potentially picking 'bad' ones that may get out-of-sync without me ever realising that. [ several minutes later ] It seems such an option may already exist. There was a feature request for this and it looks like it is possible to set a variable in the environment to force curl to resolve IPv4 adresses only https://github.com/openSUSE/zypper/issues/49 I'll try this and see how it goes. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 2017-09-13 08:46, Per Jessen wrote:

Arjen de Korte wrote:

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It would be great if it was possible to override the geolocation somehow. Mirrorbrain locates me in the US, so upgrades to my NL system take a transatlantic roundtrip, while much faster mirrors are available in DE.

The country code for your mailserver's IPv4-range quite clearly says NL, and looking it up here (on our local geoip database), also says NL.

However, looking your IPv6 address, it belongs to Hurricane Electric, in the US.

Maybe we just need a new feature to tell mirror brain the actual or preferred location for the request. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2017-09-13 08:46, Per Jessen wrote:

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Arjen de Korte wrote:

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It would be great if it was possible to override the geolocation somehow. Mirrorbrain locates me in the US, so upgrades to my NL system take a transatlantic roundtrip, while much faster mirrors are available in DE.

The country code for your mailserver's IPv4-range quite clearly says NL, and looking it up here (on our local geoip database), also says NL.

However, looking your IPv6 address, it belongs to Hurricane Electric, in the US.

Maybe we just need a new feature to tell mirror brain the actual or preferred location for the request.

I would be happy to be able to tell it about mirrors that are not working properly. With the thought that it would not use them until something says otherwise.

Maybe start by reporting those mirrors to admin@o.o - mirrorbrain does keep an eye on all the mirrors, disabling mirrors that are stale. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.9°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On mercredi, 13 septembre 2017 14.18:38 h CEST Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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Maybe start by reporting those mirrors to admin@o.o - mirrorbrain does keep an eye on all the mirrors, disabling mirrors that are stale.

Today the problematic mirror I reported at the start has files. Yesterday it did not. Who knows what tomorrow brings.

I wonder how/if MirrorBrain could track the state of that in a reliable fashion.

You seems to forget that there was a very big failure on primary download.o.o This had some repercussion to mirror, especially due to some lost on the machine that become the master afterward. Mirrors get content delete (due to synchronisation and so.) Actions have been taken to return to normal, as quick as possible, but it's counted in TB ... From my point of examination, checking some mirrors I depend on. The situation seems to be 85% normal. But far mirror, or those with lower priority will take time. I guess we can expect again a normal and sustainable situation next week-end. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch Bareos Partner, openSUSE Member, fsfe fellowship GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:

Things are slowly but surely returning to normal.

I am so grateful that all proceeds. Absolutely no complaint from me! But of course this has to happen when I am charged with making a slew of new KIWI generated Leap 42.3-based OEM image installers and PXE images. It does make one consider belief in an evil god... -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org