[opensuse-factory] Gnome packages being installed in zypper dup, despite packages being removed.

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Chan Ju Ping

27 Jan 2016 27 Jan '16

01:06

I was bug testing the network manager in KDE a few months ago, and installed the Gnome desktop to test whether it was a problem with the underlying packages, or if it was a KDE specific issue. Now that I don't need Gnome anymore, I decided to uninstall it from the system. Normally, I would be fine with leaving a separate DE but associated file types were not being obeyed throughout the system despite attempts to set everything to KDE applications, so much so it became a necessity to remove the Gnome-specific applications. However, when I do zypper dup after uninstalling most of the gnome packages, it tries to install the full gnome desktop again. How do I stop zypper from pulling in these packages? Here's the output from zypper dup with only the Gnome packages zypper is attempting to install shown. The following 8 applications are going to be installed: Documents Files "GNOME Color Manager" "GNOME Control Center" "GNOME Music" "GNOME Package Updater" "GNOME Software" Videos The following 58 NEW packages are going to be installed: gdm gdm-branding-openSUSE gdmflexiserver gnome-bluetooth gnome-color-manager gnome-color-manager-lang gnome-control-center gnome-control-center-color gnome-control-center-user-faces gnome-documents gnome-documents_books-common gnome-keyring gnome-keyring-pam gnome-keyring-pam-32bit gnome-menus gnome-menus-branding-openSUSE gnome- music gnome-packagekit gnome-session gnome-session-core gnome-session-default-session gnome-session-wayland gnome-settings-daemon gnome-shell gnome-shell-browser-plugin gnome-shell-calendar gnome-shell-search-provider-documents gnome-shell-search-provider-nautilus gnome-shell-wayland gnome-software gnome-themes-accessibility gnome-version gtk2-engine-hcengine libgck-modules-gnome-keyring libgnomekbd libgnomesu libgnomesu0 libgtksourceview-3_0-1 libmutter0 mutter mutter-data nautilus nautilus-extension-terminal nautilus-extension-tracker- tags nautilus-totem NetworkManager-connection-editor NetworkManager-gnome NetworkManager-vpnc orca plasma-nm5-vpnc polkit-gnome sushi totem totem-plugins tracker-miner-files typelib-1_0-GtkSource-3_0 typelib-1_0-Meta-3_0 yelp

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emanuel

27 Jan 27 Jan

01:21

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:06:51 PM PST Chan Ju Ping wrote:

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I was bug testing the network manager in KDE a few months ago, and installed the Gnome desktop to test whether it was a problem with the underlying packages, or if it was a KDE specific issue.

Now that I don't need Gnome anymore, I decided to uninstall it from the system. Normally, I would be fine with leaving a separate DE but associated file types were not being obeyed throughout the system despite attempts to set everything to KDE applications, so much so it became a necessity to remove the Gnome-specific applications.

However, when I do zypper dup after uninstalling most of the gnome packages, it tries to install the full gnome desktop again. How do I stop zypper from pulling in these packages?

Here's the output from zypper dup with only the Gnome packages zypper is attempting to install shown.

The following 8 applications are going to be installed: Documents Files "GNOME Color Manager" "GNOME Control Center" "GNOME Music" "GNOME Package Updater" "GNOME Software" Videos

The following 58 NEW packages are going to be installed: gdm gdm-branding-openSUSE gdmflexiserver gnome-bluetooth gnome-color-manager gnome-color-manager-lang gnome-control-center gnome-control-center-color gnome-control-center-user-faces gnome-documents gnome-documents_books-common gnome-keyring gnome-keyring-pam gnome-keyring-pam-32bit gnome-menus gnome-menus-branding-openSUSE gnome- music gnome-packagekit gnome-session gnome-session-core gnome-session-default-session gnome-session-wayland gnome-settings-daemon gnome-shell gnome-shell-browser-plugin gnome-shell-calendar gnome-shell-search-provider-documents gnome-shell-search-provider-nautilus gnome-shell-wayland gnome-software gnome-themes-accessibility gnome-version gtk2-engine-hcengine libgck-modules-gnome-keyring libgnomekbd libgnomesu libgnomesu0 libgtksourceview-3_0-1 libmutter0 mutter mutter-data nautilus nautilus-extension-terminal nautilus-extension-tracker- tags nautilus-totem NetworkManager-connection-editor NetworkManager-gnome NetworkManager-vpnc orca plasma-nm5-vpnc polkit-gnome sushi totem totem-plugins tracker-miner-files typelib-1_0-GtkSource-3_0 typelib-1_0-Meta-3_0 yelp

i would see if you installed a 'pattern' , i have some patterns listed here https://gist.github.com/5ca69d52589470dc8e08 , that is the output of 'zypper se pattern | grep gnome' , good luck. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

03:51

* emanuel [01-26-16 20:23]: [...]

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i would see if you installed a 'pattern' , i have some patterns listed here https://gist.github.com/5ca69d52589470dc8e08 , that is the output of 'zypper se pattern | grep gnome' , good luck.

And if that doesn't get you where you want to be, there are locks: zypper al --help -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Chan Ju Ping

04:28

On Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:21:12 CST emanuel wrote:

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i would see if you installed a 'pattern' , i have some patterns listed here https://gist.github.com/5ca69d52589470dc8e08 , that is the output of 'zypper se pattern | grep gnome' , good luck.

Thanks for the help. You are probably right. I think I installed via the Patterns selection in Yast when I first installed Gnome. I have removed all the packages ofund with your command, but `zypper dup` still wants to pull in those Gnome packages. I will start hunting down more stuff to remove.

Andreas Schwab

08:14

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Gnome packages being installed in zypper dup, despite packages being removed.

Chan Ju Ping writes:

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Thanks for the help. You are probably right. I think I installed via the Patterns selection in Yast when I first installed Gnome. I have removed all the packages ofund with your command, but `zypper dup` still wants to pull in those Gnome packages.

Does it also happen if you disable installing recommended packages? Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Robby Engelmann

08:56

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Gnome packages being installed in zypper dup, despite packages being removed.

That's a good point where I want to jump in. How do I disable installing recommended packages in a way it works for zypper dup? Now, I am running zypper dup --no-recommends for that. On Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2016 09:14:05 CET Andreas Schwab wrote:

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Chan Ju Ping writes:

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Thanks for the help. You are probably right. I think I installed via the Patterns selection in Yast when I first installed Gnome. I have removed all the packages ofund with your command, but `zypper dup` still wants to pull in those Gnome packages.

Does it also happen if you disable installing recommended packages?

Andreas.

Patrick Shanahan

13:08

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Gnome packages being installed in zypper dup, despite packages being removed.

* Robby Engelmann [01-27-16 03:58]:

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That's a good point where I want to jump in. How do I disable installing recommended packages in a way it works for zypper dup? Now, I am running zypper dup --no-recommends for that.

On Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2016 09:14:05 CET Andreas Schwab wrote:

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Chan Ju Ping writes:

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Thanks for the help. You are probably right. I think I installed via the Patterns selection in Yast when I first installed Gnome. I have removed all the packages ofund with your command, but `zypper dup` still wants to pull in those Gnome packages.

Does it also happen if you disable installing recommended packages?

Andreas.

edit /etc/zypp/zypper.conf and change "install Recommends = yes" -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Robby Engelmann

14:31

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Gnome packages being installed in zypper dup, despite packages being removed.

On Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2016 08:08:25 CET Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Robby Engelmann [01-27-16 03:58]:

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That's a good point where I want to jump in. How do I disable installing recommended packages in a way it works for zypper dup? Now, I am running zypper dup --no-recommends for that.

On Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2016 09:14:05 CET Andreas Schwab wrote:

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Chan Ju Ping writes:

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Thanks for the help. You are probably right. I think I installed via the Patterns selection in Yast when I first installed Gnome. I have removed all the packages ofund with your command, but `zypper dup` still wants to pull in those Gnome packages.

Does it also happen if you disable installing recommended packages?

Andreas.

edit /etc/zypp/zypper.conf and change "install Recommends = yes"

Thanks, I already set it to "no", but forgot to uncomment this line :-)

Chan Ju Ping

16:45

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Gnome packages being installed in zypper dup, despite packages being removed.

On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 3:31:41 PM CST Robby Engelmann wrote:

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On Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2016 08:08:25 CET Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Robby Engelmann [01-27-16 03:58]:

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That's a good point where I want to jump in. How do I disable installing recommended packages in a way it works for zypper dup? Now, I am running zypper dup --no-recommends for that.

On Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2016 09:14:05 CET Andreas Schwab wrote:

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Chan Ju Ping writes:

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Thanks for the help. You are probably right. I think I installed via the Patterns selection in Yast when I first installed Gnome. I have removed all the packages ofund with your command, but `zypper dup` still wants to pull in those Gnome packages.

Does it also happen if you disable installing recommended packages?

Andreas.

edit /etc/zypp/zypper.conf and change "install Recommends = yes"

Thanks, I already set it to "no", but forgot to uncomment this line :-)

Thanks for asking the question. I was just about to ask. Unfortunately, even after switching the toggle in zypper.conf, it is still attempting to install gnome control center. I have taken to locking down packages as Taboo in the meantime.

Manfred Hollstein

18:11

On Wed, 27 Jan 2016, 17:45:39 +0100, Chan Ju Ping wrote:

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On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 3:31:41 PM CST Robby Engelmann wrote:

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On Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2016 08:08:25 CET Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Robby Engelmann [01-27-16 03:58]:

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That's a good point where I want to jump in. How do I disable installing recommended packages in a way it works for zypper dup? Now, I am running zypper dup --no-recommends for that.

On Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2016 09:14:05 CET Andreas Schwab wrote:

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Chan Ju Ping writes:

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Thanks for the help. You are probably right. I think I installed via the Patterns selection in Yast when I first installed Gnome. I have removed all the packages ofund with your command, but `zypper dup` still wants to pull in those Gnome packages.

Does it also happen if you disable installing recommended packages?

Andreas.

edit /etc/zypp/zypper.conf and change "install Recommends = yes"

Thanks, I already set it to "no", but forgot to uncomment this line :-)

Thanks for asking the question. I was just about to ask.

Unfortunately, even after switching the toggle in zypper.conf, it is still attempting to install gnome control center. I have taken to locking down packages as Taboo in the meantime.

Before you lock down packages (which can become tedious after some time), please check which patterns are installed: rpm -qa 'patterns-*' If that includes some "*gnome*" patterns, then you simply might want to uninstall them. FWIW, I don't have any "*gnome*" patterns installed and get only updates for those Gnome packages which I installed on purpose. HTH, cheers. l8er manfred

Chan Ju Ping

28 Jan 28 Jan

14:06

New subject: [SOLVED] Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Gnome packages being installed in zypper dup, despite packages being removed.

On Wednesday, 27 January 2016 10:45:39 CST Chan Ju Ping wrote:

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Thanks for asking the question. I was just about to ask.

Unfortunately, even after switching the toggle in zypper.conf, it is still attempting to install gnome control center. I have taken to locking down packages as Taboo in the meantime.

Weirdly enough, after yesterday's snapshot update, zypper dup no longer attempts to pull in Gnome packages. Whatever the devs fixed, thanks!

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