Nvidia repos outdated
Hi, The Nvidia builds in https://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/tumbleweed are ~3 month old for x86-64. Kernel modules do not match current 6.7 Kernel. Has anyone information why they stopped building? Or whom we can contact? Cheers Axel
On 18.02.2024 19:20, Axel Braun wrote:
Hi,
The Nvidia builds in https://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/tumbleweed are ~3 month old for x86-64. Kernel modules do not match current 6.7 Kernel.
Sigh ... How many times is it necessary to repeat - NVIDIA drivers ARE COMPILED DURING INSTALLATION FOR THE KERNEL INSTALLED ON THE USER SYSTEM. The kernel version in the RPM version string has nothing to do with it.
Has anyone information why they stopped building?
You did not provide any evidence that NVIDIA drivers stopped building for the current kernel.
Or whom we can contact?
What exact problem do you have?
Hi There has been no update for 545.xx.yy driver series since end of November 2023. 545.20.06 is the latest one, which we package. https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/216530/en-us/ I plan to update the driver once an official supported 550.xx.yy driver has been released, which wil be rather soon (confidential information - so please don't ask when exactly!). I see our packages test building against our current 6.7.4 TW kernel. Thanks, Stefan On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 10:00:17PM +0300, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 18.02.2024 19:20, Axel Braun wrote:
Hi,
The Nvidia builds in https://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/tumbleweed are ~3 month old for x86-64. Kernel modules do not match current 6.7 Kernel.
Sigh ... How many times is it necessary to repeat - NVIDIA drivers ARE COMPILED DURING INSTALLATION FOR THE KERNEL INSTALLED ON THE USER SYSTEM. The kernel version in the RPM version string has nothing to do with it.
Has anyone information why they stopped building?
You did not provide any evidence that NVIDIA drivers stopped building for the current kernel.
Or whom we can contact?
What exact problem do you have?
Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Frankenstraße 146 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90461 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ---------------------------------------------------------------- Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev, Andrew Myers, Andrew McDonald, Boudien Moerman (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------
Am Sonntag, 18. Februar 2024, 20:00:17 CET schrieb Andrei Borzenkov:
On 18.02.2024 19:20, Axel Braun wrote:
Hi,
The Nvidia builds in https://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/tumbleweed are ~3 month old for x86-64. Kernel modules do not match current 6.7 Kernel.
Sigh ... How many times is it necessary to repeat - NVIDIA drivers ARE COMPILED DURING INSTALLATION FOR THE KERNEL INSTALLED ON THE USER SYSTEM. The kernel version in the RPM version string has nothing to do with it.
A new kernel version obviously does not trigger the recompilation of nvidia modules
Has anyone information why they stopped building?
You did not provide any evidence that NVIDIA drivers stopped building for the current kernel.
Or whom we can contact?
What exact problem do you have?
I have a Intel/Nvidia card in my laptop, and use the nvidia card in offload mode. The external HDMI-port runs only with the nvidia card - and this is not working anymore since 6.7.x Kernel. I can switch with Fn-F7 the mode how the external monitor is connected, but I dont get a picture anymore. Cheers Axel
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 10:27:52PM +0100, Axel Braun wrote:
Am Sonntag, 18. Februar 2024, 20:00:17 CET schrieb Andrei Borzenkov:
On 18.02.2024 19:20, Axel Braun wrote:
Hi,
The Nvidia builds in https://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/tumbleweed are ~3 month old for x86-64. Kernel modules do not match current 6.7 Kernel.
Sigh ... How many times is it necessary to repeat - NVIDIA drivers ARE COMPILED DURING INSTALLATION FOR THE KERNEL INSTALLED ON THE USER SYSTEM. The kernel version in the RPM version string has nothing to do with it.
A new kernel version obviously does not trigger the recompilation of nvidia modules
Well, in theory on TW it should. By a trigger script for kernel-default-devel, which rebuilds the kernel modules when updated. But things are a bit fragile on TW, so you may end up with different kernel-default and kernel-default-devel packages and therefore without recompiled kernel modules. With no kABI compatibiliy on TW probably the best would be to use DKMS instead. Sigh.
Has anyone information why they stopped building?
You did not provide any evidence that NVIDIA drivers stopped building for the current kernel.
Or whom we can contact?
What exact problem do you have?
I have a Intel/Nvidia card in my laptop, and use the nvidia card in offload mode. The external HDMI-port runs only with the nvidia card - and this is not working anymore since 6.7.x Kernel. I can switch with Fn-F7 the mode how the external monitor is connected, but I dont get a picture anymore.
If the modules are really missing (and not's a driver regression), the easiest would be to reinstall just the nvidia KMP pacakge. Thanks, Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Frankenstraße 146 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90461 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ---------------------------------------------------------------- Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev, Andrew Myers, Andrew McDonald, Boudien Moerman (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------
@Axel: Have you tried nouveau or default video drivers as the alternative to proprietary as the way to avoid these "blips" that happen frequently when using nvidia cards with nvidia drivers with faster update cycle systems like TW?? Nvidia pointedly does not try to keep pace with the newness . . . .
* Fritz Hudnut <non.space.1@gmail.com> [02-19-24 12:03]:
@Axel:
Have you tried nouveau or default video drivers as the alternative to proprietary as the way to avoid these "blips" that happen frequently when using nvidia cards with nvidia drivers with faster update cycle systems like TW??
Nvidia pointedly does not try to keep pace with the newness . . . .
those processing files (such as photos) need the speed added by utilizing the GPU which is not available in the "alternatives". the speed difference is tremendous. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
those processing files (such as photos) need the speed added by utilizing the GPU which is not available in the "alternatives". the speed difference is tremendous.
That could be a legit concern . . . not sure if powering external monitors (as mentioned by OP) . . . falls into the "need for speed"???
* Fritz Hudnut <non.space.1@gmail.com> [02-19-24 12:37]:
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
those processing files (such as photos) need the speed added by utilizing the GPU which is not available in the "alternatives". the speed difference is tremendous.
That could be a legit concern . . . not sure if powering external monitors (as mentioned by OP) . . . falls into the "need for speed"???
works the same on my laptops when I attach external monitors and I usually use two at a time. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
On Mon 19 Feb 2024 05:02:48 PM CST, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
@Axel:
Have you tried nouveau or default video drivers as the alternative to proprietary as the way to avoid these "blips" that happen frequently when using nvidia cards with nvidia drivers with faster update cycle systems like TW??
Nvidia pointedly does not try to keep pace with the newness . . . .
Hi My test tumbleweed system has no issues with the Nvidia RPM's it rebuilds on a kernel update just fine... If the card is new enough, there is always the open drivers... -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) Tumbleweed 20240216 | GNOME Shell 45.3 | 6.7.4-1-default HP Z440 | Xeon E5-2695 V4 X36 @ 2.10GHz | Quadro T400/Tesla P4 up 15:11, 2 users, load average: 0.45, 0.20, 0.07
Am Montag, 19. Februar 2024, 18:17:30 CET schrieb Malcolm:
On Mon 19 Feb 2024 05:02:48 PM CST, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
@Axel:
Have you tried nouveau or default video drivers as the alternative to proprietary as the way to avoid these "blips" that happen frequently when using nvidia cards with nvidia drivers with faster update cycle systems like TW??
Nvidia pointedly does not try to keep pace with the newness . . . .
Hi My test tumbleweed system has no issues with the Nvidia RPM's it rebuilds on a kernel update just fine... If the card is new enough, there is always the open drivers...
As embarrassing as it is, it was an issue in my setup: Before Kernel 6.7 I added a lock to the kernel in order to avoid issues. During a later installation zypper ran into problems and one of the solutions was to remove the locks. That was obviously not complete (a 'zypper rl *' left locked components as well....) I just found out when I switched to the G06 drivers, that modules were compiled against 6.6.11 Kernel. Additional manual cleanup...everthing works now. Sorry for the noise Axel
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